[IceHorses] Re: You're invited to view my photos!--Pila

2007-01-09 Thread Lorraine Voog
Very beautiful. Lorraine

Re: [IceHorses] You're invited to view my photos--Pila with her pinto spot

2007-01-09 Thread Raven
what a cute little spot. <;] raven

[IceHorses] Re: You're invited to view my photos!--Pila

2007-01-09 Thread Lorraine Voog
Very beautiful. Lorraine

Re: [IceHorses] You're invited to view my photos!--Pila

2007-01-09 Thread Raven
what a cute girl!! love her knee high socks. <;] thanks for sharing her photos. raven

RE: [IceHorses] changing registration info

2007-01-09 Thread Karen Thomas
I must admit that I have never bothered with this - I don't see the point. It doesn't take a medical degree to tell the difference between and stallion and a gelding. Note to Sue, Cherie, Trish and Laree: we really have to get Anneliese and Janice together sometime. I have a feeling that w

[IceHorses] Very interesting book!

2007-01-09 Thread Virginia Tupper
Has anyone read "Paddock Paradise" by Jaime Jackson? Virginia

Re: [IceHorses] Cookie's Yawn

2007-01-09 Thread Kim Morton
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We took some short videos of Cookie yawning with the > ASL sign for "Y": > > http://iceryder.net/cookieyawn.html > > Please feel free to forward. > > This really is much nicer to see a video, much better than pictures. Kim

Re: [IceHorses] changing registration info

2007-01-09 Thread Denise Taylor
> What do I do now that nasi is gelded? Do I have to > tell someone and > they change his papers that say he is a stallion? > Do you know if it > cost money? Do they send new papers? Hi Janice: I don't know if anyone answered this yet but on the back of Nasi's registration is a place for fill

Re: [IceHorses] changing registration info

2007-01-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Janice: There is no charge. Just fill out the castration section on the back of the registration. Make a photocopy and send the original in. Cherie

Re: [IceHorses] changing registration info

2007-01-09 Thread Anneliese Virro
1/9/07 3:15 PM, "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What do I do now that nasi is gelded? Do I have to tell someone and > they change his papers that say he is a stallion? Do you know if it > cost money? Do they send new papers? > Janice Janice: As far as I know, there is no charge

[IceHorses] Cookie's Yawn

2007-01-09 Thread Judy Ryder
We took some short videos of Cookie yawning with the ASL sign for "Y": http://iceryder.net/cookieyawn.html Please feel free to forward. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

[IceHorses] changing registration info

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
What do I do now that nasi is gelded? Do I have to tell someone and they change his papers that say he is a stallion? Do you know if it cost money? Do they send new papers? Janice -- yipie tie yie yo

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread Raven
are you hosing him off at least twice a day? take him for walks or work him in your round pen for about 10-20 minutes xper day. you may want to bute him 1 gm to help the swelling. it looks like it's still draining?? the important thing is to keep him moving and cold hosing him. poor little man.

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
On 1/9/07, Anneliese Virro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When/if he lays down, more gunk will get on them, and if his legs are > > clean, you can tell if he's still draining and tell what sort of a > > discharge it is. > > > > Is he eating and drinking normally? > > > > Wanda > > And yes, that i

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread Anneliese Virro
On 1/9/07 2:38 PM, "ToltallyICE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What's with your hip? Do you need a replacement? > > Yes probably. But my real issue right now is my back, I holding out til they > get good at disc replacements! I can't hold out much longer! Cheryl: A friend had some disks in h

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread Anneliese Virro
> When/if he lays down, more gunk will get on them, and if his legs are > clean, you can tell if he's still draining and tell what sort of a > discharge it is. > > Is he eating and drinking normally? > > Wanda And yes, that is always one of most importatn indicators that is is ok. Annelies

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread ToltallyICE
> What's with your hip? Do you need a replacement? Yes probably. But my real issue right now is my back, I holding out til they get good at disc replacements! I can't hold out much longer! I really need some Wonders worked from modern medicine! The PennHIP is a method of checking dogs for the p

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
I was wondering about bute. My vet is not the greatest but he is the best there is around here... he told me like Annaleise said... to give him nothing, to not stall him, to "let him be a horse" and run around with others. he is in with Tivar and Tivar is pretty laid back but they do play. I g

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread Anneliese Virro
. > > My vet usually has me give bute. > > Off to get ready for the long drive to a couple of PennHIP appointments! > > Cheryl I think the bute is more for the pain; but it may also act as a blood thinner, retarding coagulation. So that's probably a valid point. What's with your hip? Do you ne

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 09/01/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a pic of Nasi swollen. Do you guys think it looks normal for > two days later after being gelded? > Janice That looks about right to me, but keep an eye on it. Does he have an elevated temperature at all? I'd probably wash him do

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread ToltallyICE
> What would you give for the swelling? Nasi's swelling does not look > abnormal > to me. It is ok, as long as it is still draining and as long as he is > getting enough exercise. Hi Anneliese, I am sure you have more experience than me with gelding! I usually go as much or more by feel! But st

Re: [IceHorses] What gait - Dagur

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
On 1/9/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > believe that?? haha. he is a huge star :) Only on the internet can > > you have people all over the world watch your horse lick your arm :) > > Janice > > Solon started licking my hand the other day and I thought of you. > Maybe I'll get a

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread Anneliese Virro
On 1/9/07 12:54 PM, "ToltallyICE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That looks quite swollen to me. Are you giving him anything for the > swelling, and making sure he gets lots of movement! Don't let him stand > around all day in a woe is me stance. > > Cheryl Hello Cheryl: What would you give fo

Re: [IceHorses] What gait - Dagur

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
On 1/9/07, Wanda Lauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > believe that?? haha. he is a huge star :) Only on the internet can > > you have people all over the world watch your horse lick your arm :) > > Janice > > Solon started licking my hand the other day and I thought of you. > Maybe I'll get a

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread Anneliese Virro
On 1/9/07 11:57 AM, "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a pic of Nasi swollen. Do you guys think it looks normal for > two days later after being gelded? > Janice Hello Janice: That does not look too bad; I think it is about normal. But is it draining? Make sure he gets r

[IceHorses] "Jumping the shark"

2007-01-09 Thread Karen Thomas
There's a saying in TV sitcoms that goes "jumping the shark." What it means is when s situation comedy reaches the end of its life, the producers/directors may try to grab ratings in some (any) outlandish, desperate form. I think the saying goes back to the show, Happy Days, the one that was set

Re: [IceHorses] nasi swollen pic

2007-01-09 Thread ToltallyICE
That looks quite swollen to me. Are you giving him anything for the swelling, and making sure he gets lots of movement! Don't let him stand around all day in a woe is me stance. Cheryl ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs email: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [IceHorses] You're invited to view my photos!--Pila

2007-01-09 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www1.snapfish.com/share/p=29751168026970156/l=238798866/g=51054951/cobrandOid=1000111/otsc=SYE/otsi=SAIS Lovely!! V

Re: [IceHorses] What gait - Dagur

2007-01-09 Thread Wanda Lauscher
> believe that?? haha. he is a huge star :) Only on the internet can > you have people all over the world watch your horse lick your arm :) > Janice Solon started licking my hand the other day and I thought of you. Maybe I'll get a video. Won't be soon though, we're getting ready for a huge st

Re: [IceHorses] What gait - Dagur

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
Awesome! I think he does a trot because he is bouncy, but when you hit pause it looks like a fox trot, and in one pause, a RW! Shows the difference between video and stills doesnt it?!? how cool. Yes, I am a YouTube nut now, driving everyone crazy with my goofy videos. That one of stonewall lic

Re: [IceHorses] Extremes and Breed Standard

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
On 1/9/07, ToltallyICE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you use evaluation scores, then the breed STANDARD > > for mane is mane hanging down a foot past the muzzle. > > whereas 99.5% of icelandics have a nice bushy thick pony type mane. > > I believe, if you are going by evaluation scores, 7.5 is

[IceHorses] Re: EZ Ride Stirrups --> east to get!

2007-01-09 Thread Barbara Sollner-Webb
> ... order some EZ Ride stirrups ... for Christmas ... but we had a hard time > finding them. i ordered twp pairs just before Christmas directly from the easyboot company (www.easycareinc.com); they had everything in stock, are cheaper than most stores, and the package arrived in two days. a

Re: [IceHorses] nasigeld pics 2

2007-01-09 Thread Anneliese Virro
> bear it! I had to get down and close his eye so it would not get > dried out and pet on him. I kept watching his stomach to make sure he > was breathing! I felt the vet knocked him out too hard, but he gave > him some sort of shot to make him wake up and he was up in about > fifteen minutes.

RE: [IceHorses] sidepulls & reining

2007-01-09 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Janice, >Then why does my jaspar seem a little confused about reining in the >sidepull? Is it just that he isnt used to it? He even seemed a >little duller with neckreining in the sidepull and I ended up mostly >direct reining. He actually "steered" best with leg cues It is my understandin

Re: [IceHorses] nasigeld pics 2

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
my vet said I could print or post the pics anywhere I wanted, but to please not show his face. And I said why, aren't you proud of your work? and he said "yeah, but I don't want my kids coming home from school telling me they saw me on an alien livestock mutilation website..." I thought that was

[IceHorses] sidepulls & reining

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
If its true that a well-trained horse will behave in a sidepull just as well as in a bit... and I believe it is since I have noted my horses I have ridden in a sidepull do all the same bad AND good things in a sidepull that they do in a bit--- Then why does my jaspar seem a little confused about

[IceHorses] Re: jumping icelandics

2007-01-09 Thread stroppelj
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 1/9/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think anyone said it wasn't an extreme example, did they? > > Maybe it was reported because it is odd. It is out of the ordinary if he is > > any

Re: [IceHorses] Extremes and Breed Standard

2007-01-09 Thread ToltallyICE
> If you use evaluation scores, then the breed STANDARD > for mane is mane hanging down a foot past the muzzle. > whereas 99.5% of icelandics have a nice bushy thick pony type mane. I believe, if you are going by evaluation scores, 7.5 is considered average for the breed. So a horse that scored

[IceHorses] Re: Charm's Bow

2007-01-09 Thread Lorraine Voog
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We're just starting to work with Charm on bowing. > > Here's her third attempt: > > http://iceryder.net/charmbow2.html That is so cute. How do you do that? You are so talented. Lorraine

Re: [IceHorses] Re: jumping icelandics

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
On 1/9/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think anyone said it wasn't an extreme example, did they? > Maybe it was reported because it is odd. It is out of the ordinary if he is > anywhere near that tall. I don't see it as a "breed claim". > i think maybe some icelandic men

Re: [IceHorses] Re: jumping icelandics

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
i think one of the worst examples of breeding for tallness that comes to mind is in the Paso Fino breed. A breeder I know told me that breeding for pasos that are 15hh is largely the problem in so many of them in the last ten years being trotty. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo

[IceHorses] Re: Extremes and Breed Standard

2007-01-09 Thread stroppelj
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well, another thing about extremes, now that we are on the subject... > When dogs are shown for example, they are scored on which one at the > show best meets the criteria of the BREED STANDARD. So what IS the > i

[IceHorses] Re:saddlefit/treeless

2007-01-09 Thread Lorraine Voog
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>I am so excited. I finally received my treeless demo. It is gorgeous. > Wish me luck. I feel like a kid at Christmas. Can't wait untill tomorrow. > Lorraine > > Be sure to tell us all about it. How's your ne

RE: [IceHorses] EZ Ride Stirrups

2007-01-09 Thread susan cooper
>>> I'm going to order some EZ Ride stirrups and wondered if there was a preference of aluminum vs. nylon? I'm looking at the ones with the tapaderos covers.<< My hubby got me the aluminum with tapadaros for Christmas. I wanted the nylon ones because they are lighter weight, but we had a hard

[IceHorses] price of feed

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
when we bought our usual feed last week the price had gone up. Not much but when you multiply it by ten bags, it was definitely noticeable. When we asked why, the feed store owner said all feed is going up because of some new program using corn for automobile fuel. He said when corn went up, peop

Re: [IceHorses] The Horse Show

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
On 1/9/07, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Free year's membership for completing a survey: > > http://thehorseshow.com/membership.aspx > > Janice, there's a show with Tommy Turvey. whoo hoo, i joined. Janice -- yipie tie yie yo

[IceHorses] Re: EZ Ride Stirrups

2007-01-09 Thread Lorraine Voog
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> They saved my knees. > > That's the truth! They also make it easier for me to relax my ankles, and > I've always had a bad habit of jamming my ankles. I love my trail tech 2 stirrups because I have knee proble

[IceHorses] measuring horse height

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
this is interesting--- Just how tall is a hand? by Shlei Equines are measured in units. Which unit of measure is used depends on the association doing the registration. Some registries use inches to determine size, since it is easier than trying to convert to hands. A hand is four inches. The st

Re: [IceHorses] Extremes and Breed Standard

2007-01-09 Thread Janice McDonald
well, another thing about extremes, now that we are on the subject... When dogs are shown for example, they are scored on which one at the show best meets the criteria of the BREED STANDARD. So what IS the icelandic breed standard?? If you use evaluation scores, then the breed STANDARD for mane i

[IceHorses] Re: jumping icelandics

2007-01-09 Thread stroppelj
> > I should let this go, but this is just another case of someone picking some > EXTREME example/claim about Icelandics and trying to make it sound > not-off-the radar screen - if this one is even true, which I'll believe it > when I see proof. Hi Karen why are you always so offended by an

Re: [IceHorses] Pila fra Uxahrygg, Rangarvallasyslu

2007-01-09 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Forwarded pic without comment I missed the photo! Congrats on the new addition! She sounds wonderful! Virginia

[IceHorses] Re: jumping icelandics

2007-01-09 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since Jasmin wrote it as an answer to my post complaining about the > ever-increasing claims we hear for the breed, from speed, to weight > carrying, yes, in that context, I DO think it was another example of "breed > i

RE: [IceHorses] Re: jumping icelandics

2007-01-09 Thread Karen Thomas
I don't think anyone said it wasn't an extreme example, did they? Maybe it was reported because it is odd. It is out of the ordinary if he is anywhere near that tall. I don't see it as a "breed claim". Since Jasmin wrote it as an answer to my post complaining about the ever-increasing claims

Re: [IceHorses] You're invited to view my photos!--Pila

2007-01-09 Thread Kim Morton
She's cute, have fun with her! Kim

Re: [IceHorses] Charm's Bow

2007-01-09 Thread Wanda Lauscher
> She was really interested in eating the grass, but still responded when > asked. Isn't she just a little sweet pea. I started teaching Gusti to bow, but never continued it for some reason. Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] EZ Ride Stirrups

2007-01-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like the nylon. It wouldn't matter as much with the tapadero covering but when I was boarding horses a lady fell off her horse out on the trail and because her girth wasn't snug, the saddle rolled under the horse. It spooked, running through the woods and the aluminum stirrups whacked the c

Re: [IceHorses] Charm's Bow

2007-01-09 Thread Kim Morton
--- Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We're just starting to work with Charm on bowing. > > Here's her third attempt: > > http://iceryder.net/charmbow2.html > That is really good, I wish I could get one of mine to do it, I haven't really tried yet. Kim

[IceHorses] Re: jumping icelandics

2007-01-09 Thread kim morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> There are some, it the latest Eidfaxi edition there was an articel on > the biggest known Icelandic (named Islandicus ;-)), he measures 160cm stick, > which would be something around 16hands, so regular horse size

RE: [IceHorses] Re: jumping icelandics

2007-01-09 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> There are some, it the latest Eidfaxi edition there was an articel on the biggest known Icelandic (named Islandicus ;-)), he measures 160cm stick, which would be something around 16hands, so regular horse size. ...and I suppose that this example proves that Chinese people as a nationality are