Raven wrote:
> Take a peek at my new trailer. <;] Finally! What a relief to
> get it home.Now, to get the title and dressing room keys. Raven
> http://picasaweb.google.com/IcePonyGoddess/2007SundownerTrailer
Oh gee, it almost looks exactly like mine! I have a Sundowner too.
However,
Icelandic Horses
When you train behaviors in any method you need to teach stimulus control.
That means the animal does the behavior every time when it is cued to do so,
but doesn't do it without the cue. The fun thing about clicker training to me
is free shaping a behavior such as laying down
Take a peek at my new trailer. <;] Finally! What a relief to get it home.
Now, to get the title and dressing room keys. Raven
http://picasaweb.google.com/IcePonyGoddess/2007SundownerTrailer
On 12/03/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Ja, well, there are certain requirements to be met such as that she be
> of child-bearing age.
>
> Man, poor Janice. I think Wanda told her the same thing!
This is very important information. The prospect of grandchildren is
quite excit
Hi Janice,
>>>Robyn's sister Linda Tellington Jones wrote it. I forget the name. :)
I think it is T-touch? it is a great book. it has the most awesome
pic in it of an icelandic and his little kitty cat friend.
The book is called Getting in TTouch with Your Horse. The cat and horse
poster is
> I'm not really talking about "well trained" clicker horses. If they were
> well-trained, I wouldn't be complaining. :) The difference with a poorly
> clicker trained horse is that too often they inflict their poor training on
> those around them. For example, I don't really see a poorly Parel
> While Repel-Xp (which contains pyrethrins, piperonyl butoxide and lots of
> deoderized kerosine) is very effective at repelling flies, for several hours,
> it lacks the citronella that make FlyGone7000 so effective at repelling
> culicoides. From my (fairly extensive) testing, Repel-Xp does
>>> Ja, well, there are certain requirements to be met such as that she be
of child-bearing age.
Man, poor Janice. I think Wanda told her the same thing!
Karen Thomas, NC
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> Seriously, you'd better watch out asking that in this crowd Anneliese.
> Remember just a couple of weeks ago, Janice was hitting on Wanda's son,
> Brian..? :)
>
> Karen Thomas
Ja, well, there are certain requirements to be met such as that she be of
child-bearing age.
Anneliese
>>> But the people whose horses "wear them out" by mugging for treats is
allowing the horse to do that.
My complaint is when the horse is wearing other folks out, not the owner who
did the training. I don't really have a lot of control about how other
people train their horses. Sort of like som
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think most animal professionals appreciate safe, well-trained
horses,
> however they got to be that way.
>
Did someone say that everyone has to use clicker training? I may
have missed it. I just don't see that th
sorry for only now responding to posts from this past weekend.
"Karen Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ...I seem to remember hearing that...not all "SE" is actually caused so
much by the cullicoides as by a bombardment of many minor allergies...
Won't that make it harder for a single vaccine
I too have been doing it about 8 to 10 years. And I do understand why you
would say that. But the people whose horses "wear them out" by mugging for
treats is allowing the horse to do that. Most well trained clicker horse.
Almost all horse will mug in the beginning, but soon learn that they have
>>> I wonder if her being raised with just one other horse (or maybe this is
not so) and with who knows what kind of handling -maybe not having
boundaries set?
I wonder too. I think Stali took her own as his responsibility, at least
that's how it seemed to me. I get the feeling that maybe her t
In a message dated 3/12/07 4:32:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>> while we're on this subject of women's health...please don't forget to
> get a mammogram.
>
> I'm going to take care of that chore on Wednesday - bone density tests are
> much easier!
Geesh, Karen,
I've experienced the reve
On 3/12/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/12/07, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > 1. Flugfjardir
> > 2 Perursstingir
> > 3. Straumfjadrir
>
>
> Orri's trainer/breeder, an Icelander, told me that Orri was 'special'
> because of the swirl--I'll have to look at it cl
On 3/12/07, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> The thing about some of the special horses we have all known and loved,
> they were sometimes complicated but that is not a bad thing if you have the
> right person/horse combination.
A very good point. Jaspar's "resistance to training" i t
> Hi all,
> For those of you who know her, our daughter, Mandy is getting married on
May
> 5th in California.
Congratulations Mandy! And Robyn and Phil!!
Sherrel
On 3/12/07, Ann Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Janice,
>
> Tivar grew up with 3 mares and 3 geldings together. He was always a ladies
> man with the mares, he would groom each one even my old mare Stella who is
> not real friendly to other horses. Tivar had a best buddy Yoki and they
> would
I have found the swirls info in the book to be totally right on :)
And speaking of marks like this... does anyone know what the dent in
the neck can be? i have heard the arabian folks call it the
thumbprint of allah and means a great horse but then I have heard it
is where in the womb the hoof r
>>> I did have a vet who was pretty dang happy that I had clicker trained my
horses to get shots, and we had not problem giving her a IV. I think she was
a very special vet, I didn't get to use her for long, she had another client
who had a wild caught mustang who also had used clicker training for
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't think too many vets and
> farriers are happy when a horse starts playing "How about..." when
the
> professional is trying to get their job done.
>
I did have a vet who was pretty dang happy that I had clic
On 3/12/07, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 1. Flugfjardir
> 2 Perursstingir
> 3. Straumfjadrir
Orri's trainer/breeder, an Icelander, told me that Orri was 'special'
because of the swirl--I'll have to look at it closer to see which
pattern it is. I didn't really pay attention because
Hi Karen,
I think that the more tools and possibilities that you have to apply when
working with horses is ideal. Keeps a person from getting stuck. A couple
of questions/ comments.
>>We've only done small groundwork sessions with her up until now. She'd be
fine for a while, and usually, sin
Hi Karen
>>>Honestly, I think that's the biggest issue - finding the method that's
right for the human. I think horses are usually more tolerant! Some
aggressive, type A folks seem too inclined to make the NH methods too much
about dominance and control. And on the other hand, I think some
tend
>>> while we're on this subject of women's health...please don't forget to
get a mammogram.
I'm going to take care of that chore on Wednesday - bone density tests are
much easier!
Karen Thomas, NC
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If this had happened to Janice, I'm sure you'd get a better story, but here
goes:
I had an odd thing happen Saturday on what should have been a very easy,
uneventful ride. I put the Hybrid on Falki. I hadn't tried it on him
before, just for a test since he's the broadest horse I own. I realized
On 3/12/07, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 3/12/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am just scared
> > cause I bought Nasi without checking it out first and he has the
> > dreaded "torn shirt" or shredded wheat collar whatever its called, the
> > cowlick running up
>>know I'm not the only 50+ year old on the list, so I'm here to nag a
> little. Have you had a bone density test done?
yep...i have very dense bone. <;] which really surprised me since i
have lactose intolerance.
while we're on this subject of women's health...please don't forget to
get a mam
>>> Absolutely, and a method that is great for one person or horse might be
totally unsuitable in another situation. Nothing is perfect.
Honestly, I think that's the biggest issue - finding the method that's right
for the human. I think horses are usually more tolerant! Some aggressive,
type A
>>> Same for clicker training. If someone is uncomfortable with clicker
training (or any training method), they won't be successful.
I guess I haven't made my point clear. I'm ok with the minimal c/t I've
done with my own horses. In a couple of the cases I'm thinking about, I
think the owners a
Hi Cheryl
> Wheat ear
> 3. Straumfjadrir - Stream feathers (long ones I would guess is what this
> means in translation) on the breast and they were considered to be more
> secure in water than other horses.
>Thank Robyn, interesting.
>Are the above swirls the same?
That would be my understandi
Hi Karen,
>>> It's not exactly that I exactly clicker training - it's more that
I wanted to say that I think it has as many potential pitfalls as any of the
gentle training options out there.
Absolutely, and a method that is great for one person or horse might be
totally unsuitable in another si
> That is the 'wheat ear' on the underside of the neck that Linda talks
> about.
> 3. Straumfjadrir - Stream feathers (long ones I would guess is what this
> means in translation) on the breast and they were considered to be more
> secure in water than other horses.
Thank Robyn, interesting.
Ar
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:26:41PM -, Judy Ryder wrote:
> In tolt, the horse is ventroflexed.
>
> The base of his neck is lowered.
>
> This is one of the reasons the tolt is not a collected gait.
so what is the proper term to distinguish from a tolt where the horse is
pulling himself along
Janice,
Tivar grew up with 3 mares and 3 geldings together. He was always a ladies
man with the mares, he would groom each one even my old mare Stella who is
not real friendly to other horses. Tivar had a best buddy Yoki and they
would play all day if they had the chance. When Yoki died Tivar was
Hi Judy
>>>Neat! I didn't read their page in-depth, but do I recall that the
stirrup placement is adjustable? If so, that would make it pretty
versatile.
We found the English portion and you can certainly adjust the girth and
where the stirrup sit. I would like to sit in one because the photos
Hi Janice & Virginia
> cause I bought Nasi without checking it out first and he has the
> dreaded "torn shirt" or shredded wheat collar whatever its called, the
> cowlick running up the center at the base of the neck. And he is
> also dun
>I was told that Orri's cowlick on his chest means he's '
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's the part I rarely hear discussed re: c/t - when those wheels
may
> start spinning to the point that the horse offers behaviors one after
> another, almost as a click-aholic. Or when you need to do something
sim
Hi Karen,
>>>The horses who become click-aholics worry me. The horses who seem to
become so addicted to getting clicked that they will try anything and
everything for praise, offering one behavior after another. Sometimes I
like for a horse to stand quietly and trying to think it through before
On 3/12/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or when you need to do something simple,
> like say, check the pulses in the horse's foot, and he/she wants praise for
> picking up their foot, or decides to "count" by pawing, whatever. That
> simply wears on my nerves.
Mine too... I tea
On 3/12/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am just scared
> cause I bought Nasi without checking it out first and he has the
> dreaded "torn shirt" or shredded wheat collar whatever its called, the
> cowlick running up the center at the base of the neck. And he is
> also dun!
I
On 3/12/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now, go get yours done, and pray that my results are good! :)
I hope they're good.
Now all you other old-enough-to-be-my-mother listers go get your tests
done, I'd hate for any of y'all to get hurt! ;)
Steph
--
"Brutality begins where ski
>>> But really most methods, if you just use them on their own, may have
limitations. Ideally people can look at what is or isn't working and make a
choice - but if you use any system that is set in the program it can be
limiting (I think you know this well and certainly don't follow any system
in
> Interesting looking saddle. I will be in Germany in April and will
see if I
> can find one to try.
Neat! I didn't read their page in-depth, but do I recall that the
stirrup placement is adjustable? If so, that would make it pretty
versatile.
Wonder if it would be too flat for the mutton-wi
>>> I think it works great, there might be a little mugging at first, but
that goes away when they figure out this isn't the way to get a treat.
Clicker training really gets them on board with whaterever you are trying to
do really quickly, you can just see those wheels start to spin.
That's the p
this is in response to the posting about SE saying:
> I use repellent on the horses; it needs to be something with piperonyl
botoxide in it; that's the stuff that makes the Flygone effective against
the no-see-ums, I think. I use Repel-Xp...
> And I use... Skins-so soft...
Not to "beat a dea
> We have found that horse's facial characteristics can change depending on
> how they are worked with. These tendencies are just that, but it could be
> why you are seeing him okay one day, or okay with part of the training and
> then not okay.
teeheee I love this! I am sure some think it
I know I'm not the only 50+ year old on the list, so I'm here to nag a
little. Have you had a bone density test done? I had my first one five
years ago after I broke my back, and I got a diagnosis of osteoporosis. I
had no idea. I'm a prime candidate: a small-boned white woman, who's never
bee
> Congratulations and good wishes! I am a little envious. Our 35-year old son
> is still looking. Anyone want to do a little match-making?
Send him down... I have a friend who'd love to meet him. ;)
Steph
--
"Brutality begins where skill ends."
"Correctly understood, work at the lunge line is
On 3/12/07, Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I love the photos you have of Orri and I am going to give you my sense of
> his tendencies from a personality point of view.
Wow Robyn--I really appreciate your analysis and it does sound like Orri to me.
Can you do this with people too?
V
On 3/12/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since I don't read German, I can't tell much about it. I know it's
> treeless. The main thing I notice is that the pommel looks oddly low, with
> the cantle oddly high. Wonder why?
http://www.buitenzinnig.nl/DaviWB/Pagina17.html
English
Hi Judy,
Interesting looking saddle. I will be in Germany in April and will see if I
can find one to try.
Robyn
Icelandic Horse Farm
Robyn Hood & Phil Pretty
Vernon BC Canada
www.icefarm.com
> It is the opposite of ventroflexed. >Venter< is latin for stomach - so,
> flexed toward the stomach. Sway back is (usually extreme) ventroflexion.
In tolt, the horse is ventroflexed.
The base of his neck is lowered.
This is one of the reasons the tolt is not a collected gait.
See this pict
Hi Ann,
>>>I have had three of my horses with Mandy since January. She has started
my filly, Surtsey, who is brave and loves to go out on the trail and seems
to like the ring too. All I can say that if you are lucky enough to get her
to help or train your horses, you will be pleased.
Thanks for t
Oooh yeah! I'm not arguing that it works. What worries me more is when the
horse not only learns to (in your example) pick up the feet, but suddenly
wants to pick up his/her feet anytime you look at them, or when you need to
bandage a leg or check a pulse. I think sometimes people get swept
>>> Pictures of the saddle on Icelandics:
http://www.buitenzinnig.nl/DaviWB/Pagina18.html
Since I don't read German, I can't tell much about it. I know it's
treeless. The main thing I notice is that the pommel looks oddly low, with
the cantle oddly high. Wonder why? I sometimes have a problem w
in holland, close [to] 80% develop eczema if the horse isn´t taken
care of
I missed this original post, but I take issue with the "isn't taken care of"
line. I've heard that one too many times. That just makes me see red.
An SE horse can get exactly the care of another not-at-risk horse,
> http://www.buitenzinnig.nl/
>
> http://www.buitenzinnig.nl/DaviWB/Pagina17.html
Pictures of the saddle on Icelandics:
http://www.buitenzinnig.nl/DaviWB/Pagina18.html
Judy
I find that FlyGone also works very well at repelling flies, and its
effect lasts considerably longer than that of Repel-X, probably due to
its stabilized citronella. [See: <
http://www.maineicelandics.org/html/se.html >.]
> If other list members have more information on such testing, I would
>
Does anyone have one of these:
http://www.buitenzinnig.nl/
http://www.buitenzinnig.nl/DaviWB/Pagina17.html
(lots of colors h, and matching boots!)
Thoughts on this saddle?
Judy
> What part of Wyoming? Will she be doing any training?
>
Hi Cheryl,
I have had three of my horses with Mandy since January. She has started my
filly, Surtsey, who is brave and loves to go out on the trail and seems to
like the ring too. All I can say that if you are lucky enough to get her to
h
she probably isnt aware of humans because none ever even came into her
pen. To her they are probably mythical creatures who do not really exist in
any tangible form. Janice
Yep. Before you got her out of there, she probably thought her early life
at Unicorn Valley was just a dream. She's
> They may spend part of the year at Barbara's in California but initially
> will be living in Wyoming
Wow! That is right next door! :o)
What part of Wyoming? Will she be doing any training?
Cheryl
ToltallyICE at Sand Creek Icelandic Horse Farm
Icelandic Horses and Icelandic Sheepdogs
email: [
responding to:
>> ... percent of exported Icelandic come down with SE.
>> 70-80% is a much better guestimate. Anneliese
"Ingvar Ragnarsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> it all depends on where you live and how you take care of
> in holland, close [to] 80% develop eczema if the horse isn´t tak
Hi Virginia,
Hi Virginia,
I love the photos you have of Orri and I am going to give you my sense of
his tendencies from a personality point of view. Some of you have read
Linda's book "Getting in TTouch" with your horse that looks at the shape of
the face, in combination, which will help you
>>> They may spend part of the year at Barbara's in California but initially
will be living in Wyoming and then next fall in Florida
Tell her to come visit some of us in the southeast while she's here. :)
Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> She's such a pretty horse--I love her gentle expression. V
You know, despite that odd distance thing that had sort of sprung up (I'm
sure due to her lack of human interaction) she really is a gentle, sweet
horse. She's a jewel. I hope she never has to go through what she endured
again - I h
>>> Congratulations and good wishes! I am a little envious. Our 35-year old
son is still looking. Anyone want to do a little match-making?
Sure. :) Have I got a daughter-in-law for you!
Seriously, you'd better watch out asking that in this crowd Anneliese.
Remember just a couple of weeks ago, J
its funny to see this topic this morning! Because yesterday i was in
a funny playful mood and the boys were turned out in front so of
course attacked the row of hay round bales. I was going up to pet on
them and saw my movement catch stonewalls eye. So just to be funny,
to amuse myself really, b
Karen,
Oh, you are so right! The part I didn't report is that now Hunter (who pees
for treats) wants to stretch six times crossing the pasture. He hasn't
figured out the cookie is delivered only when he actually performs. Or
perhaps,
being a very intelligent horse, he has figured it out, b
"Anneliese Virro" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I don't see the point paying for the shipment of mostly water, so I usually
buy concentrates. Jeffers carries the Flygone as well at the Repel-Xp which
is a concentrate, the Flygone is not.
While Repel-Xp (which contains pyrethrins, piperonyl butoxi
Hello Janice,
I do not really think that I have ever had a problem. One horse, Hlekkur,
has occasionally had about a quarter size spot on his ventral line. I do not
know for sure if this is eczema or not. I am not taking any chances! I am
really committed to try to prevent this if at al
Hi Kim,
>>>I don't really know their herd dynamics, they said he
might give her trouble. I'm not putting her in there. I would like
to incorporate her into my herd and I started yesterday with letting
them visit over the gate.
I would agree with you not to put her in their herd and I am sure sh
Hi Karen,
>>>Oooh yeah! I'm not arguing that it works. What worries me more is when
the horse not only learns to (in your example) pick up the feet, but
suddenly wants to pick up his/her feet anytime you look at them, or when you
need to bandage a leg or check a pulse. I think sometimes people g
Hi Karen,
>Congrats to Mandy and Walt! Will they be living in Calilfornia?
Thanks.
They may spend part of the year at Barbara's in California but initially
will be living in Wyoming and then next fall in Florida - Mandy wants to
work with Peggy Fleming DVM and Walt will re-do a house that Barbar
> you know what is so cool about you Annaleise? Even tho you know
> probably more than just about anybody, you never want to stop
> learning, listening, having an open mid about anything that will help
> these horses. You are an inspiration and just proves its what you
> learn after you know it
On 3/12/07, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How long ago was he gelded?
Orri was gelded last summer.
> and I love the playful pic of you and
your teddy HA
Tres chic!
V
> I think we all know he's saying "Dear Jesue - thank you for sending me
> this crazy lady - I luuuv her"
HA! Thanks Laree :) actually this weekend at turnout I began to see
he is not fearful of the other horses anymore, and is joining in on
their ambush games :) i think he is settling in!
J
>>> You have to learn how to do it right. If you just grab a clicker and
go, you may have mugging problems.
People talk a lot about the mugging, but honestly I haven't had THAT much
trouble with that part. That's really not why I question it. I just think
there is much more that can go awry wit
On 3/12/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It doesn't sound at all like Orri is dominant with you, at least
> not most of the time. Use your mind AND your heart when you assess him. He
> belongs to YOU, not the trainer or the breeder... :)
I don't think Orri acts dominant with me--h
On 3/11/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's always the chance that he's
> had a bad experience with a crop or lunge whip.
Both Orri and Gat react to the stick like they think they're supposed
to lunge. Then when I stop them, and still use the stick for
'Friendly' I think they ge
>>> I almost think the clicker is more for me than for my horse. I'm not
very good at reading the subtle nuances of his body language or releasing
pressure at the right moment so it's an easy way for him to
understand me. I feel so clumsy trying to figure out the various steps and
not sure what I
I think we all know he's saying "Dear Jesus - thank you for sending me
this crazy lady - I luuuv her"
That's the version I believe too, Laree. :)
Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> For those of you who know her, our daughter, Mandy is getting married on
May 5th in California.
Congrats to Mandy and Walt! Will they be living in Calilfornia?
Karen Thomas
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3/12/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
She's such a pretty horse--I love her gentle expression.
V
On 3/11/07 10:22 PM, "Robyn Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> For those of you who know her, our daughter, Mandy is getting married on May
> 5th in California. She met Walt at the Bitterroot Ranch two years ago and
> we met him at Christmas. Great match for Mandy, he loves animals, is
> It works if you do it right. Luring an animal into
> place with food is bribing. Rewarding it after the
> fact is not.
>
> You have to learn how to do it right. If you just
> grab a clicker and go, you may have mugging problems.
> You must teach a horse how and where to receive
> the reward.
E
>>> The girl who helps us with our disabled kids, reports that her little
brother was having trouble getting his young mare to pick up her feet for
him. They startyed treating her for offering a foot. By the end of the
second session, she was willing to pick up as many feet as they wanted as
many
I don't use clicker training because I'm too old and set in my ways to learn
to coordinate the clicker (which I have), the instructions (bought the book)
and the treats. I tell my husbnd that if he ever has to identify my body,
check the pockets. I'm the one with the horse cookies & dog buscui
> Here's some pictures of Orri:
> http://www.virginiatupper.com/17orri.html
he is amazingly beautiful! and in some pics, exactly Nasi's color.
How long ago was he gelded? and I love the playful pic of you and
your teddy HA
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
oh! just for safety I did the chain across his nose, but not one
second did I have to seriously tighten it! He seems so cowed down by
life he acts like he knows at all times not to misbehave
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
On 3/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know about you guys but I am proactive in preventing summer eczema
> in my 4 imports in NC. I started stabling at dawn and dusk today. (before
> any
> signs of a problem). I normally start when the time changes or when it has
>
I've been clicker training for 30 years. Parrots, whales (With a whistle),
big cats, strange hoofstock, dogs and horses. It works if you do it right.
Luring an animal into place with food is bribing. Rewarding it after the
fact is not.
You have to learn how to do it right. If you just grab
she probably isnt aware of humans because none ever even came into her
pen. To her they are probably mythical creatures who do not really
exist in any tangible form.
Janice
--
yipie tie yie yo
Thank you Robin.
Renee
> He is saying "Dear Jesus? If you are out there, could I please have
> another person for Christmas? There is no grass here and Nasi smells
> funny..."
Janice
I think we all know he's saying "Dear Jesue - thank you for sending me
this crazy lady - I luuuv her"
--
Laree
> BOB and Tack Of The Day (A BOB Site) aren't enjoyable to deal with for me...
>
I've ordered a few things from Tack of the Day and had good service
Laree
I did something yesterday I haven't done a lot. In fact, I don't remember
ever doing it with an Icelandic, and I doubt I'll do it again very soon, or
very often. I "round-penned" a horse - something I'm not normally a big fan
of doing. I thought it might be right for this horse, and I think it w
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Virginia Tupper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> I don't know that Orri is dominant--I'm repeating what his breeder
> told me and what the barn owner tells me. Orri 'fights' with the
> other 'top' gelding all the time. I see Orri as soft and gentle.
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I ju
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