Re: [IceHorses] Re:Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
>>>I really think this site is so pro treeless. Yes, we are. >>>sometimes treed saddles work. As we have said previously, yes, they do. Treeless does not work for every person or every horse. >>>I am a new Icelandic owner. We are so glad that you are enjoying your Icelandic Horses. New o

Re: [IceHorses] Trimming Young Horses in Norway

2007-10-03 Thread Raven
what a brave trimmer. cute ponies. <;]

Re: [IceHorses] Mugging

2007-10-03 Thread gemstonerotts
In a message dated 10/3/2007 8:15:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Cherie, I have had him since he was eight months old. He is nipping at other parts of my body not just my hands, he wants to nip my shirt from the back while I am cleaning the area. His area is hug

RE: [IceHorses] Mugging

2007-10-03 Thread Cherie Mascis
> That little nipping that has started with Willie/Segull now that he is > gelded and I have made a pet out of him has bothered me. When he was a > stallion I never fed him anything by hand, like his carrots were in his > food. He > never as a stallion offered to nip me ever. Now here I have this

Re: [IceHorses] Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 03/10/2007, Kristen Mikula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking for a place/brand to start looking for a > new saddle for my gelding. Is anyone using a treed > dressage or all purpose saddle on their Icelandic > sucessfully and would you be willing to share the > brand name with me? Frien

Re: [IceHorses] Re: As Strong As A Lion, As Gentle As A Lamb

2007-10-03 Thread Wanda Lauscher
On 03/10/2007, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I agree. We aren't horses, and I don't think horses expect us to be > horses. I think they can read us pretty good as we are, and we probably do > not need four legs, eyes on the sides of our head, or pointed radar-type > ears, for them

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic Horse Pictures

2007-10-03 Thread kim shumaker
Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Various pictures of Icelandic Horses: Those are beautiful pictures. I especially like the one that ends in 108.

Re: [IceHorses] Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread Kristen Mikula
Okay, let me rephrase my question: I am looking for a place/brand to start looking for a new saddle for my gelding. Is anyone using a treed dressage or all purpose saddle on their Icelandic sucessfully and would you be willing to share the brand name with me? Unfortunately the Sensation treeles

Re: [IceHorses] Fall haircuts

2007-10-03 Thread kim shumaker
Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sina, Skjoni and Melnir. I forgot to get pics of Trausti and Melnir. Karen Thomas, NC You did a beautiful job. Your lines are so straight. I have to do something like that to Nanna soon, but, first she has to get desensitized to the clip

Re: [IceHorses] Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:23:27AM -0700, Kristen Mikula wrote: > So...is anyone on the list still riding an Icelandic > in a treed English saddle? What is working for you? i love love love my hrimnir treed saddle. it fits stjarni beautifully, and it's extremely comfortable. sadly for me, it's

Re: [IceHorses] Re: As Strong As A Lion, As Gentle As A Lamb

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
>> Whereas this continual "bullying" behavior may seem excessive to > us, it's >> important to realize it's a fact of life for a horse. It is their > way, > Ok, I have been meaning to comment on this since this morning. I > don't agree I agree with you; I think we can always find a way to do thin

Re: [IceHorses] Re:Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread Pam Hansen
No, that's not always true<<< Honey, here we go. All you new Icelandic owners. Talk to your vet and your horse fitter/massage person.

[IceHorses] Re: As Strong As A Lion, As Gentle As A Lamb

2007-10-03 Thread Kim Morton
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > As Strong As A Lion, As Gentle As A Lamb > > By Jeffrey Rolo > > When watching an alpha mare or herd leader interact with members of his/her > herd you will inevitably see the leader exhibit aggressive behav

Re: [IceHorses] Re:Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
>>> This list is very pro Sensation saddles AND TREELESS but remember it > doesn't work for all horses or people. Absolutely! >>> I showed David, ABOUT THE HORSE my Wintec Icelandic and he said it was >>> ok! I'm glad that the Wintec fits your horse. Not all Icelandics will fit in that par

RE: [IceHorses] Re:Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread Karen Thomas
Talk to your saddle fitter/massage equine person. They don't like treeless. No, that's not always true. I was first steered towards a treeless saddle by an open-minded local saddle-fitter. She could have sold me a Stubben or another major brand, and she told me my Wintec wasn't wo

Re: [IceHorses] Re:Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread Pam Hansen
I ride in a wintec Icelandic on Lukka, and an ASTUND SPECIAL on Joli'. I tried treeless and it didn't work for me. Talk to your saddle fitter/massage equine person. They don't like treeless. If you can find a treed saddle to fit your horse and you, go with it. I am waiting for my custom enduranc

[IceHorses] Re:Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread Rene Adams
I use everything they make. I use my favorite Crates Western saddle for ponying my two year old. I have an English Icelandic saddle I use when I want to ride English and now my favorite is my Treeless Sensation Hybrid saddle that I received a couple months ago. Couldn't ride without any

[IceHorses] Mouths and Nosebands

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
What do you think is happening here? Are the horses comfortable? Do they have free use of their heads and necks? Do you think that the shape of this horse's cervical vertebral chain (the horse closest to the camera) leaves room for his hyoid apparatus, parotid glands, as well as the other orga

[IceHorses] Icelandic Horse Pictures

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
Various pictures of Icelandic Horses: http://www.pbase.com/flydra/image/72974201 http://www.pbase.com/flydra/image/73001619 http://www.pbase.com/image/2109319 http://www.pbase.com/image/2109318 http://www.pbase.com/image/26216624 http://www.pbase.com/image/84855108 http://www.pbase.com/image

[IceHorses] Re: Barn pics

2007-10-03 Thread robyn_schulze
> I don't have a barn named after me, although the pics I sent in are pics of > the "Karen" model! :) We did our layout too, and went over it with the rep, > who made suggestions, and gave us prices for options. > > > Here's the website of the people who did mine. > http://www.hooverbuildings.

Re: [IceHorses] Trimming Young Horses in Norway

2007-10-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
They're so pretty! Can you imagine a farrier willing to go into a pen of loose young horses and work on one at a time? Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread Bia
I ride in treed saddles

[IceHorses] Trimming Young Horses in Norway

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
This video shows trimming a group of young horses in Norway: http://youtube.com/watch?v=08hoR3L3enM Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

RE: [IceHorses] Tonka - Blakkur fra Windwalker

2007-10-03 Thread Cherie Mascis
>Ignoring the horse - isn't that a totally HIDEOUS riding coat?? >; ) >Mic I'm with you there Mic! Cherie

Re: [IceHorses] Julie Goodnight on Gaited Horses

2007-10-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
Interesting comments. And, in a general way, probably correct. There are good working ranch type Tennessee Walkers being raised in Montana and Canada which are appreciated by endurance and trail riders. Because I have only ridden the one TWH, I have no way of knowing if he is some sort of except

[IceHorses] Julie Goodnight on Gaited Horses

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
Q: What do you think of gaited horses? Hello Julie, I am looking at buying a Tennessee Walker. I currently have a Quarter Horse and am finding it a challenge to post. I'm 42 years old. I purchased your DVD's and they were helpful, but I'm just not really comfortable with posting. I have heard

Re: [IceHorses] Tonka - Blakkur fra Windwalker

2007-10-03 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 10/3/07, Laree Shulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This isn't Janice, it's Laree, but these are the only pics I have of > him and I got them from Janice Beautiful horse!! Tonka--cute name! V

Re: [IceHorses] Tonka - Blakkur fra Windwalker

2007-10-03 Thread Laree Shulman
> Ignoring the horse - isn't that a totally HIDEOUS riding coat?? > ; ) > > Mic If the idea is to be noticed, I think they achieved the goal! :-))) -- Laree What a horse does under compulsion is done without understanding, and there is no beauty in it either, any more than if one should w

Re: [IceHorses] Tonka - Blakkur fra Windwalker

2007-10-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
Oh, Mic, I had the same thought. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Tonka - Blakkur fra Windwalker

2007-10-03 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 14:40:26 -0400, you wrote: >This isn't Janice, it's Laree, but these are the only pics I have of >him and I got them from Janice > Ignoring the horse - isn't that a totally HIDEOUS riding coat?? ; ) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen -

Re: [IceHorses] Autism

2007-10-03 Thread IceDog
Interesting Judy! I don't doubt that diet is behind much of today's ills! Cheryl Sand Creek Icelandic Sheepdogs Puppies by CH Vesturhlithar Loki available late 2007 Website: www.sandcreekicelandics.com

Re: [IceHorses] STbreds/ Icelandics

2007-10-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
We have a lot in common Monica. We have a Tennessee Walker, A Standardbred and the two Icelandics who are 3 1/2 and 4 1/2. The Older mare is under saddle. The younger gets started in the Spring. Our Standardbred's father won $500,000 at the track. Twist won $1008, probably didn't pay his train

Re: [IceHorses] Autism

2007-10-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
That's am interesting theory especially in light of attempts that have been ( with varying degrees of success) to treat autism with both vitamins and diet changes. I have this half-in-jest theory that they should look at prenatal ultrasounds. In the olden days we didn't have this technology. Now

[IceHorses] Anyone using a treed saddle anymore?

2007-10-03 Thread Kristen Mikula
I have finally decided to sell my Icelandic saddle (I will send details to Judy when I take pictures later this week). The saddle fits Deacon reasonably well, which is why I have kept it for three years; but it is totally wrong for me (too big and I hate knee rolls). I have a Big Horn haflinger w

Re: [IceHorses] Autism

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> someone told me the other day that "they" think autism being so > rampant these days because "more and more older women are having > kids". That wouldn't account for the autism in babies from young mothers. It's an interesting and devastating phenomenon. I saw a program the other day, tho, a

Re: [IceHorses] Mugging

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> That little nipping that has started with Willie/Segull now that he is > gelded and I have made a pet out of him has bothered me. When he was a > stallion I never fed him anything by hand, like his carrots were in his > food. He > never as a stallion offered to nip me ever. Now here I have thi

RE: [IceHorses] Larry Whitesell Clinic

2007-10-03 Thread Karen Thomas
>>Date: October 19-21, 2007 I'd like to go and audit a day or two of this clinic. I think I will too - assuming that I won't get swamped with work after taking this week off. It's only about 15 miles from me. Let me know if anyone wants to go with me. I may not have the beds changed again f

Re: [IceHorses] speed racking video / Tonka

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> Tonka's, the Icelandic, owner says that his speed rack is actually > closer to if not right on flying pace. Janice, do we have any pictures or video of Tonka gaiting? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Larry Whitesell Clinic

2007-10-03 Thread Laree Shulman
> I'd like to go and audit a day or two of this clinic. > > Cherie I'd like to take a horse but just can't afford it right now - oh well, I might audit it again - I seem to get something from him each time I do -- Laree What a horse does under compulsion is done without understanding, and ther

RE: [IceHorses] Larry Whitesell Clinic

2007-10-03 Thread Cherie Mascis
>>Subject: [IceHorses] Larry Whitesell Clinic >Hosted by Kathy Williams >Date: October 19-21, 2007 >Location: >Chetola Farm >1602 Starnes Cemetary Rd. >Monroe, NC 28112 >www.chetolafarms.com I'd like to go and audit a day or two of this clinic. Cherie IceHorses Community for Photos and Vi

Re: [IceHorses] Gait Phase / Speed Racking on the Curve

2007-10-03 Thread Laree Shulman
I think this has a something to do with how the speed rackers > can pace on the curve, but Icelandic Horses don't, since their riders are > more stiff / braced in the seat and legs. Well, one Icelandic obviously does and I think Janice has information about how his owner rides him. So, it can

Re: [IceHorses] Gait Phase / Speed Racking on the Curve

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> http://www.adamshorseandmuleco.com/4sale.htm > > It's interesting to look at where the other legs are in relation to the > weight-bearing front leg and, in relation to the other pictures. Another thing that is interesting about the videos, which can also tie in with the "speed racking video"

Re: [IceHorses] speed racking video

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> If you look carefully at the videos you can see suspension, which > makes it flying pace so far as I'm concerned. Yes, I think that helps to qualify the gait. I think there is also a spot somewhere in there where the fast tolt may be morphing into having a little suspension, and some times

Re: [IceHorses] speed racking video

2007-10-03 Thread Mic Rushen
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:21:49 -0400, you wrote: >that "speed rack" is the same as what Icelandic horse fans have >traditionally called "flying pace", since it always looks more pacey than >rack/tolt. If you look carefully at the videos you can see suspension, which makes it flying pace so far as I'

[IceHorses] Larry Whitesell Clinic

2007-10-03 Thread Laree Shulman
Hosted by Kathy Williams Date: October 19-21, 2007 Location: Chetola Farm 1602 Starnes Cemetary Rd. Monroe, NC 28112 www.chetolafarms.com For more information or to attend contact Kathy Williams Phone (704) 764-8253 Cell (704) 221-4566 e-mail – [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Laree What a horse does

[IceHorses] Leveller Noseband

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
Here's a picture of a horse in the leveller noseband, not a very nice piece of equipment, but allowed by the rules on Icelandic Horses: http://www.pbase.com/image/32806110 So, what's the problem with nosebands? One of the main goals of dressage is to relax the horse, including his jaw. When th

Re: [IceHorses] Training Young Horses

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
> Long story short, we bought two Icelandics, 3.5 years old, a gelding > and a mare. Just doing ground work and longlining with them Send pictures for us, Monica! We love to see pictures, not only of the horses standing around, but in the process of their training (groundwork, driving, etc.).

Re: [IceHorses] As Strong As A Lion, As Gentle As A Lamb

2007-10-03 Thread gemstonerotts
In a message dated 10/2/2007 3:42:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] write Judy, That little nipping that has started with Willie/Segull now that he is gelded and I have made a pet out of him has bothered me. When he was a stallion I never fed him anything by hand, like his ca

Re: [IceHorses] Foot Flicking / Artificial Trot

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
"In pictures of extended trot you can see very well that the diagonal is broken. This is only possible if the horse has a tight back and a tight neck. You can only make a horse move like this when you have enough pressure in front, enough pressure in the back. Through the stiffness in the top line

[IceHorses] Re: speed racking video

2007-10-03 Thread Monica
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Nancy Sturm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > owned Icelandics since last Januray. However, I do own an off-track > Standardbred who paced at the track. He has learned to trot at least part > of the time, but his hard race track pace is a very unpleasant gait to

Re: [IceHorses] Off to pick up HAY!

2007-10-03 Thread Laree Shulman
> Man, it's always something! > That is so true! When my daughter was diagnosed with learning disabilities, I read a book titled "No Easy Answers" and that's how I feel a lot of times with the horses. I just comvinced my friend with the Perch/TB cross that her saddles' ill fit was causing her h

RE: [IceHorses] Off to pick up HAY!

2007-10-03 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I spoke with our Ag Ext agent yesterday and he said to be very careful of local hay cut this Fall and this coming Spring - he said due to the stress of the drought that the nitrate levels in the hay are going to be dangerously high. You might want to have this batch tested and mix with other h

Re: [IceHorses] OT Behind the vertical

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
Ohmigosh! What breed of horse? Where was this? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

RE: [IceHorses] speed racking video

2007-10-03 Thread Karen Thomas
>> One of the funniest "spins" I've ever heard for why the "speed rack" isn't a REAL flying pace: a rider goes into "flying pace" from canter/gallop, whereas a rider will go into "speed rack" from a rack. So half of the time my former horse Fáfnir didn't actually pace when he paced because I

[IceHorses] Journey To The Center of The Earth

2007-10-03 Thread Judy Ryder
An excerpt from Chapter 9 o fJourney To The Center of The Earth, by Jules Verne, mentioning Iceland and Icelandic Horses: http://ajourneytothecenteroftheearth.blogspot.com/2007/10/chapter-9-our-startwe-meet-with.html or: http://tinyurl.com/yrrcyt Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.co

RE: [IceHorses] OT Behind the vertical

2007-10-03 Thread Karen Thomas
Ouchthat makes MY neck hurt, just to see the picture. I wonder how the trainers would like to have their head tied to that position, even for a few minutes? Karen Thomas, NC

RE: [IceHorses] Hay Day

2007-10-03 Thread Karen Thomas
How many bales did you end up getting? "Only" 162...but they are packed more densely than I've normally seen fescue, making 48-55-ish pound bales, compared to the 30-38-ish pound bales we got last spring. We are quite happy with the yield - it dried well, and looks good. It's probably clos

Re: [IceHorses] An honest neighbor

2007-10-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
It sounds like your friend remembers what "neighbor" used to mean. We were only 21 when we bought our place in 1963. We heard later that we were not expected to "last". The farmer whose field adjoined ours gathered us under his wing like a couple of chicks and taught us, mentored us, loaned and

Re: [IceHorses] OT Behind the vertical

2007-10-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
Oh good grief. What is that supposed to fix? Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] OT Behind the vertical

2007-10-03 Thread Laree Shulman
On 10/3/07, Skise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to put that contraption on that trainer -- Laree What a horse does under compulsion is done without understanding, and there is no beauty in it either, any more than if one should whip or spur a dancer. -Xenophon

Re: [IceHorses] As Strong As A Lion, As Gentle As A Lamb

2007-10-03 Thread Laree Shulman
makes me wonder how often > they perceive us as being rude, when we do things we dont even think > about. I think that's a great point, Janice. Sometimes I catch myself being too abrupt with hte horses because my mind is elsewhere. I like your approach method -- Laree What a horse does und

RE: [IceHorses] Re: Barn pics

2007-10-03 Thread Karen Thomas
ACtually it is, but before we redid the corral. The barn had just been finished in the pix from the builder. He names the barns he builds after the owner, so he can easily keep track of which barn is which. I don't have a barn named after me, although the pics I sent in are pics of the "Kare

[IceHorses] An honest neighbor

2007-10-03 Thread Karen Thomas
We got our hay put up last night by about 9pm. Good news: we didn't get as many bales as we hoped, only 162 bales. So why is fewer bales good news? Because we cut this hay before it got so tall (we decided on the spur of the moment to cut it because the weather forecast looked right for now) w

[IceHorses] OT Behind the vertical

2007-10-03 Thread Skise
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RE: [IceHorses] speed racking video

2007-10-03 Thread Skise
Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > I think you are dead-on right, Laree. > > > One of the funniest "spins" I've ever heard for why the "speed rack" isn't a > REAL flying pace: a rider goes into "flying pace" from canter/gallop, > whereas a rider will go into "speed rack" from a rack.

Re: [IceHorses] Hay Day

2007-10-03 Thread Laree Shulman
On 10/2/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Woohoo - Hay! > > How many bales did you end up getting? -- Laree What a horse does under compulsion is done without understanding, and there is no beauty in it either, any more than if one should whip or spur a dancer. -Xenophon

Re: [IceHorses] Off to pick up HAY!

2007-10-03 Thread Laree Shulman
In a really good year, we can get 450 bales or so on this tract. > This fall, I'll be very happy to get 150-200 bales. Karen - I spoke with our Ag Ext agent yesterday and he said to be very careful of local hay cut this Fall and this coming Spring - he said due to the stress of the drought tha

Re: [IceHorses] peanut gallery

2007-10-03 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 10/2/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No help, but lots of onlookers. LOL--probably drooling! V

Re: [IceHorses] Quote for Today

2007-10-03 Thread Laree Shulman
>"In happiness and suffering, in joy and grief, we should regard all > creatures as we regard our own self." Lord Mahavira, 24th Tirthankara > Very nice, Jnaice -- Laree What a horse does under compulsion is done without understanding, and there is no beauty in it either, any more than