Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-02 Thread Janice McDonald
Yes, I agree. Plus, we don't know who was riding or the circumstances of the spook. Horses who are in competition know the difference between competition and just a hack. but it seems just a hack would be less stressful? I noticed on their special, and it interested me, that while some

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-02 Thread Nancy Sturm
They go nuts in less pressure situations? Maybe arena sour? Or perhaps not accostomed to the real world? There was a very sad situation a few years back where a woman in Nevada was dying and the breeder of her nice dressage mare was trying to place the mare, a National Show Horse. We

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-02 Thread Laree Shulman
it is possible for a horse to be quite good in the familiar and controlled setting of an arena and quite dangerous in the big out-of-doors. I have been around quite a few 3-day eventing horses which was Teddy's area. Usually they are very forward and incredibly bold - going over jumps that

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-02 Thread Jacki Edens
I spoke with a good friend of mine yesterday who is friends with the O'Conners. Seems that Teddy was being ridden by one of his regular riders when he suddenly and inexplicably went into a panic. The thought is that perhaps there was a bear in the woods or something simlar because his

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-02 Thread Karen Thomas
wish I knew what would make him spook like that. If he wouldnt spook at jumping a giant fake tree surrounded by potted daisies while a crowd of thousands cheered and waved flags and hot dogs... what would spook him? I guess you never know! Horses get used to whatever they are exposed

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-01 Thread Janice McDonald
man, all those horrible accidents, they are so scarey to think of! And I know any horse can spook any time. But in the tv show, my gosh the chaos and crowds and noise that horse was exposed to... maybe he hit an electric wire? I wish I knew what would make him spook like that. If he wouldnt

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-01 Thread Karen Thomas
It was so heartbreaking when our children's young friend's horse somehow got out of a safely fenced pasture and was struck by a car that I still remember his name: Snoop. I had the scare of the year last night when the phone rang about 10:30pm, since we rarely get calls that late. It

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
But I do believe that even wonderful horses who have good trainers can end up in freak accidents it is truly the nature of the beast. It was so heartbreaking when our children's young friend's horse somehow got out of a safely fenced pasture and was struck by a car that I still

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-01 Thread Karen Thomas
I saw Julie goodnight on tv recently. what everyone else calls desensitization-- She calls bombardment. I thought that was interesting. and an apt way of putting it. If you think of it as bombardment then maybe you would be less likely to go past the point where the horse is no longer

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-01 Thread Jacki Edens
- Original Message - From: Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] . I would think Theodore was in a mindless panic and I wonder why. Thats what a true bolt is, mindless panic. And who knows if it was really a bolt back to the barn or just a joyful wild run to get back to buddies and

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-01 Thread susan cooper
--- Jacki Edens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do believe that even wonderful horses who have good trainers can end up in freak accidents it is truly the nature of the beast. Yes, I agree. Plus, we don't know who was riding or the circumstances of the spook. Horses who are in

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-01 Thread Karen Thomas
And who knows if it was really a bolt back to the barn or just a joyful wild run to get back to buddies and where the food is. Everything I read said that he spooked and threw his rider, so I'd suspect that would rule out any joy in his run back to the barn, but I could be wrong. If

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-06-01 Thread susan cooper
--- Karen Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was a neighbor, telling us that a horse had been hit down the road from us, asking if all of our horses were accounted more. Horses get out and hit here quite a bit. Last year, an elderly woman was killed and her husband seriously injured

[IceHorses] hmmm

2008-05-31 Thread Janice McDonald
Theodore O'Connor, the 13-year-old eventing super pony was euthanized today as a result of an injury sustained in an accident at Karen and David O'Connor's barn in The Plains, Va., according to a statement released by the U.S. Equestrian Federation. Standing only 14.1 hands, the

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-05-31 Thread Nancy Sturm
Theodore O'Connor, the 13-year-old eventing super pony was euthanized today as a result of an injury sustained in an accident at Karen and David O'Connor's barn in The Plains, Va., according to a statement released by the U.S. Equestrian Federation. This has been all the buzz on Ridecamp

Re: [IceHorses] hmmm

2008-05-31 Thread Janice McDonald
well, ok, at the risk of stirring things up... i just feel its odd that a horse so valuable, so well trained you would think, hauled here there and everywhere every weekend to perform in front of thousands of people, horses and people and chaos everywhere... would spook and throw a rider and

[IceHorses] hmmm anna

2008-01-12 Thread Janice McDonald
Hey, something similar to what happened to anna recently is happening to me on Youtube. Apparently someone has brought attention to my Youtube video of a biglick horse's hocks posted recently and now the views are really exploding and I am getting negative comments. which for this video, is a

Re: [IceHorses] Hmmm, interesting

2007-10-02 Thread Judy Ryder
With an attitude like that, even if he had something important to say (and I'm not saying he does), if he alienates everyone, who would listen? This is a good lesson. Going back to the original post, The Absurdity of High Action, he says: the high stepping horse is nothing else but a result

RE: [IceHorses] Hmmm, interesting

2007-10-02 Thread Karen Thomas
Are we smart enough, knowledgeable enough, have enough faith in ourselves to trust ourselves to see the wheat? That's a really good question for a lot of situations. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 /

Re: [IceHorses] Hmmm, interesting

2007-10-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:44:01 -0300, you wrote: Further to the link/article Judy just shared: http://horsemanpro.com/articles2/horsemanship.htm This person has one almighty big chip on his/her shoulder Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen

Re: [IceHorses] Hmmm, interesting

2007-10-01 Thread Mic Rushen
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:44:01 -0300, you wrote: Further to the link/article Judy just shared: http://horsemanpro.com/articles2/horsemanship.htm I just read some more articles by this person (it's a man), talking about Rollkur: I will be frank, unbiased and without any prejudice, and of course

Re: [IceHorses] Hmmm, interesting

2007-10-01 Thread Virginia Tupper
On 10/1/07, Mic Rushen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have yet to see a modern woman that is willing to obey another human being without asking question or without demanding explanations or justifications. Even if she would somehow manage to scramble up enough self-discipline to keep

Re: [IceHorses] Hmmm, interesting

2007-10-01 Thread Nancy Sturm
Man - this guy is out there! Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Hmmm, interesting

2007-10-01 Thread Cherie Mascis
He seems to hate women, all trainers other than himself, and I'm not sure he even likes horses! With an attitude like that, even if he had something important to say (and I'm not saying he does), if he alienates everyone, who would listen? Cherie

[IceHorses] Hmmm, interesting

2007-09-30 Thread Virginia Tupper
Further to the link/article Judy just shared: http://horsemanpro.com/articles2/horsemanship.htm V