Re: Email messages: How large is too large?

1999-12-14 Thread Jon Crowcroft
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Valdis.Kletnieks@vt .edu typed: --==_Exmh_-374731876P a) Do you have an incoming anonymous FTP drop *of your own*? b) Are you willing to set up incoming FTP for one file? c) What if you're one of the millions of people who use an ISP that doesn't provide

Re: Email messages: How large is too large?

1999-12-14 Thread Martin Djernaes
] From: "Martin Djernaes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] I know that the internet were not build for "general use", but it is the ] life of the net today, at it should be the goal for the people ] implementing it (us?). Let us get away from the idea that it should ] always be used the way we

Re: Email messages: How large is too large?

1999-12-14 Thread Dick St.Peters
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, for most of the Internet users of today, the availability of long-term stable externally-reachable storage is low enough that you usually end up dereferencing a null pointer. It doesn't have to be that way. We'll set up an anonymous FTP site for

Re: Email messages: How large is too large?

1999-12-14 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Sp encer Dawkins" writes: I'm thinking that at least some part of the loss-of-transparency issues might get more attention from the nice people who want to put application gateways between themselves and the rest of the world if you point out that this has led

RE: Email messages: How large is too large?

1999-12-14 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Title: RE: Email messages: How large is too large? Steve, You said this better than I could have - loss of transparency is making it harder for application designers to make correct use of the Internet easier for users, and it wasn't THAT easy to make correct use easy in the FIRST place...

Re: So transparent I can't even SEE it...

1999-12-14 Thread John Border
I have always noticed a half day or so time lag between when I get an announcement and when I can find the document using the search engine but the document is always there if you type in the expected URL by hand. I noticed the same problem with Brian's draft but I also noticed the problem on a

Re: Email messages: How large is too large?

1999-12-14 Thread Ned Freed
As I recall, the reason that Mime was developed was precisely to allow email to substitute for many file transfers. Before Mime, it was always a bit of an annoyance/embarassment that email could not be used in place of FTP for binary files. Actually, the motivation for developing MIME was

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-14 Thread John Stracke
Christian Huitema wrote: The first SYN packet gets lost, and the client simply picks another address in the list and tries again. The APIs I've used don't tell me about lost SYN packets (thank goodness); they only tell me if the connection has timed out. So, yes, we have a problem. We need

Re: Email messages: How large is too large?

1999-12-14 Thread Dave Crocker
At 01:11 PM 12/14/1999 , Ned Freed wrote: But I guess we forgot to take the next big step, redesigning email to properly scale to handling arbitrarily large messages in a relatively graceful manner when necessary. I remain to be convinced that problems handling large messages have much if

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-14 Thread Christian Huitema
At 04:29 PM 12/14/99 -0500, John Stracke wrote: it only makes a difference if a connection to a transit provider breaks, Or if the chosen path becomes congested over time. No. This is no different from the present situation. BGP does not recompute routes in case of congestion. It is a

Re: Email messages: How large is too large?

1999-12-14 Thread George Michaelson
I remain to be convinced that problems handling large messages have much if anything to do with the modern ESMTP protocol. It seems to me that it has a lot more to do with implementation and deployment. Amen! A few observations: Many places depend on mailers which operate as 'parallel

RE: whois?

1999-12-14 Thread Rick H Wesson
Martin, don't expect things to get better about UCE, your registration information is now available for sale. all registrars are required to sell their whois databases for a maximum of $10K, per the latest ICANN/DOC/NSI agreements. -rick On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Martin Essenburg wrote: I think

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-14 Thread Dave Crocker
At 02:50 PM 12/14/1999 , Christian Huitema wrote: No. This is no different from the present situation. BGP does not recompute routes in case of congestion. It is a problem that we are stuck with today, that multi-address multi-homing actually gives us the hope of solving. Only minimally, as

NHRP

1999-12-14 Thread Prabhu Srivastava
Could any body tell me where i can find a tutorial/specification for NHRP ( Next Hop Resolution Protocol). How does it work ? Any idea ?? Thanks Prabhu

Re: NHRP

1999-12-14 Thread Scott Bradner
Could any body tell me where i can find a tutorial/specification for NHRP that is RFC 2332 - you can get the RFC through the IETF web page at www.ietf.org Scott

CDP

1999-12-14 Thread James F Dougherty
Hi, Is CDP (Cisco Discovery Protocol) an IETF draft or RFC? Any other information on discovery protocols or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -James

Re: IP network address assignments/allocations information?

1999-12-14 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
At 02:50 PM 12/14/1999 , Christian Huitema wrote: No. This is no different from the present situation. BGP does not recompute routes in case of congestion. It is a problem that we are stuck with today, that multi-address multi-homing actually gives us the hope of solving. Only minimally,

Re: WAP

1999-12-14 Thread Scott Bradner
WAP is not an IETF activity - it is from the WAP Forum http://www.wapforum.org/

RE: CDP

1999-12-14 Thread Roger Choate
CDP is a Proprietary protocol , you way also want to look at the RFC 2701 Roger -Original Message- From: James F Dougherty [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:CDP Hi, Is CDP (Cisco Discovery Protocol) an