Re: Gender diversity in engineering

2012-05-04 Thread Eric Burger
NSF has a ton of information on this for the U.S. population. I'm too lazy right now to dig it up, but it is there. On May 1, 2012, at 4:40 PM, James M. Polk wrote: There have been some good numbers floated on recent threads, but at least for me, they aren't enough to gain a complete (or

Re: Gender diversity in engineering

2012-05-04 Thread Allison Mankin
A good URL for the NSF statistics: http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/wmpd/ Also, there's extensive information and analysis about the educational pipeline in the US (for all groups, and including K12) in the 2010 American Association of University Women report Why So Few?

RE: Gender diversity in engineering

2012-05-04 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
From: Allison Mankin [allison.man...@gmail.com] I'd be interested to learn of studies of the CS workforce outside the US. Are there recruitment and attrition problems everywhere? I've seen reports in the popular press that the fraction of women entering software is higher in many Asian

Re: [dane] Last Call: draft-ietf-dane-protocol-19.txt (The DNS-Based

2012-05-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
Phillip, I haven't seen any consensus for the change of the document, thus chairs think the document is fine as it is. Ondrej On 25. 4. 2012, at 15:52, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: I have raised these comments in the WG numerous times, I am raising them here as I do not believe that anyone is

Re: Is the IETF aging?

2012-05-04 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 19:07 -0800 Melinda Shore melinda.sh...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/1/12 5:55 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote: What would be good patterns for those roles? I don't know what John has in mind but it strikes me that every so often we get a wave of new participants (as

RE: Last Call: draft-levine-application-gzip-02.txt (The application/zlib and application/gzip media types) to Informational RFC

2012-05-04 Thread John C Klensin
+1 I'm still a little concerned about the boundary between media (content) -type and content-transfer-encoding, but I've become convinced that we should not put the burden of that issue onto this document. I do believe that, someday, someone should try to write up an up-to-date description of

Re: Is the IETF aging?

2012-05-04 Thread Ted Hardie
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com wrote: But, even a step or two in the direction of promoting or preferring less-able women in order to make IETF bodies more diverse would be likely to result in shooting ourselves in our collective feet. I think the analysis

Re: Is the IETF aging?

2012-05-04 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, May 04, 2012 11:01 -0700 Ted Hardie ted.i...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:43 AM, John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com wrote: But, even a step or two in the direction of promoting or preferring less-able women in order to make IETF bodies more diverse would be

Re: Last Call: draft-levine-application-gzip-02.txt (The application/zlib and application/gzip media types) to Informational RFC

2012-05-04 Thread John Levine
I do believe that, someday, someone should try to write up an up-to-date description of the difference that recognizes the fact that compressed files are in use as media types with application/zip (in assorted spellings) and application/gzip (from this spec and in assorted spellings) as examples.

Re: Is the IETF aging?

2012-05-04 Thread SM
Hi John, At 10:43 04-05-2012, John C Klensin wrote: garb on a regular basis is unreasonable. So, unless we want to send the message that all of the senior members of the community are necessarily male (and inclined to grow beards), we need to find another term. The term SIR was proposed

Re: Is the IETF aging?

2012-05-04 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote: Hi PHB, the IETF is not like an enterprise where you can decide (as part of the hiring process) what characteristics your employees should have. True, but that does not mean that you should decide that there

Re: Is the IETF aging?

2012-05-04 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote: Hi PHB, the IETF is not like an enterprise where you can decide (as part of the hiring process) what characteristics your employees

Re: Last Call: draft-levine-application-gzip-02.txt (The application/zlib and application/gzip media types) to Informational RFC

2012-05-04 Thread ned+ietf
I do believe that, someday, someone should try to write up an up-to-date description of the difference that recognizes the fact that compressed files are in use as media types with application/zip (in assorted spellings) and application/gzip (from this spec and in assorted spellings) as

Re: Last Call: draft-levine-application-gzip-02.txt (The application/zlib and application/gzip media types) to Informational RFC

2012-05-04 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, May 04, 2012 19:26 -0700 Ned Freed ned.fr...@mrochek.com wrote: You're right, it would be nice if there were some way to distinguish containers from content in MIME types. But given the existing historical mess, and that some kinds of compression are just a different way to

Re: Is the IETF aging?

2012-05-04 Thread Yoav Nir
On May 5, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote: Hi PHB, the IETF is not like an enterprise where you can decide (as part of

Protocol Action: 'SHA-2 Data Integrity Verification for the Secure Shell (SSH) Transport Layer Protocol' to Proposed Standard (draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-06.txt)

2012-05-04 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'SHA-2 Data Integrity Verification for the Secure Shell (SSH) Transport Layer Protocol' (draft-dbider-sha2-mac-for-ssh-06.txt) as Proposed Standard This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group.

SIDR Working Group Interim Meeting: Wednesday, June 6, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread IESG Secretary
The SIDR working group will hold an interim meeting (plus virtual attendance) on June 6th 2012. Location: Vancouver, Canada Time: 0900 - 1700 PDT Agenda and dial-in information will be posted to the mailing list and will also be available at: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/trac/wiki

Document Action: 'An IANA registry for Level of Assurance (LoA) Profiles' to Informational RFC (draft-johansson-loa-registry-06.txt)

2012-05-04 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'An IANA registry for Level of Assurance (LoA) Profiles' (draft-johansson-loa-registry-06.txt) as Informational RFC This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group. The IESG contact person is Sean

UPDATED: SIDR Working Group Interim Meeting: Wednesday, June 6, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread IESG Secretary
Please note updated meeting time below. The SIDR working group will hold an interim meeting (plus virtual attendance) on June 6th 2012. Location: Vancouver, Canada Time: 1300-1700 PDT Agenda and dial-in information will be posted to the mailing list and will also be available at:

CLUE Working Group Interim Meeting: June 7-8, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread IESG Secretary
Hi Folks, A face-to-face interim meeting is being scheduled for the CLUE WG. The date and location were selected to allow participants to also attend the W3C WebRTC and IETF RTCWEB meetings the following week. Date: June 7-8, 2012 Location: Kista (near Stockholm) Sweden. Exact location will be