Currently, IETF standards activity carries little or no weight for an
academic career profile. It doesn't appear to have a weighting compared to
peer review publication. I think this is a shame, because the contribution
is as substantive, if not more so. And, since time is limited and choices
have
When next you walk into a target or big W, ask to see the conditions of
entry. Along with implied consent to have your bags checked at any time,
you have probably given consent to be video'ed and tracked at their behest.
The poster is on the wall somewhere usually. Your statutory rights cannot
be
AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:31 PM, George Michaelson g...@algebras.orgwrote:
When next you walk into a target or big W, ask to see the conditions of
entry. Along with implied consent to have your bags checked at any time,
you have probably given
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Keith Moore mo...@network-heretics.comwrote:
Would being able to reliably know exactly who said everything that was
said in a WG meeting visibly improve the quality of our standards? If the
answer is not a clear yes (and I don't think it is) then I suggest
yes, I made a facetious posting because I sensed that we were discussing
outcomes on a basis of 'nothing happened' when in fact, I think by scale,
Australian participation reflects if not exceeds our numerical role in
standards development and Internet matters. There is reason to believe we
do
I went to Adelaide. it was my first IETF. I am now an IETF
regular-irregular, of 10+ years standing. So, proof by example, it
increased Australian participation by at least 1.
In fact, I think by scale, Australians punch above their weight. Especially
if you include americans who live in
On 16/11/2012, at 7:24 AM, Dino Farinacci farina...@gmail.com wrote:
Secondly, you appear to assume these allocations to EID can simply use
current RIR practices. The problem is that you need to understand what
needs-based and justification means in process terms: Hostmasters in the RIR
s/12/16/ wrt 2002: doh. the principle stands. 2002://16 did not imply a
reservation to a /12 and would have been given less than a /16 if the
technology had allowed it.
-G
I think this document isn't ready for IETF last call.
I think the context of an experimental assignment which heads to
distributing IPv6 addresses to end-entities, even if the experiment
is not intended to be globally routable, poses questions about how
the address management function is going to
Dino, to come back on topic. I understand the drafts purpose is to request a
block of IPv6 address be delegated for this specific purpose, from IANA. The
request is to the IAB. So, its a request for architectural aspects of
addressing, facing an experiment.
a /12 is a very large amount of
put bluntly, we all know the mail tools we're using to process these mails, and
the mails could be a damn sight more tractable for tools than they are.
ever tried sorting drafts by subject line?
that old draft-random-group-something-KEYWORD-version is really suckful for
something as basic as
On 29/07/2011, at 8:03 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
agree but if you're trying to discriminate it by:
This graph shows the daily unique queried reverse addresses by type.
you can't.
Very true Joel. I did, for a while, pattern match the 6rd prefix from Free.FR's
declared ranges in RIPE
I have updated the graph to include 6rd, based on my understanding that the
prefixes of the form 2a01:e3xx: are your 6rd space.
There is *other* FreeNet space, which appears to do things, but I sense its not
part of the 6rd deployment since the numberforms in the lower /64 appear to be
you may like to look at
http://labs.apnic.net/dns-measurement/
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I have considered the issues I had facing 6to4 deprecation, and in the light of
what you propose here, and other discussions, I support this course of action.
-George
On 25/07/2011, at 10:30 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote:
Folks,
After some discussion, the IESG is attempting to determine whether
UI like the iPhone make top-post for short responses almost unavoidably easier.
7 vital signs of a with-it manager from mars or venus (your choice) books
very probably also recommend it, I notice that people who move from strict
technical roles into managerial ones are very prone to doing a +1
in another time and place, we invented killfiles because this class of
discussion proves so counter-productive, its better not to see it.
I posit that IETF venue discussions map 1:1 onto godwins law.
I suggest that we separate consensus over standards from IETF process over
venues, and let
I wish to add a specific point to this.
I also raised a proposal for over-weekend meetings a few years back. I feel
that the attendees to US IETF, which have often predominated, but in the
general sense the attendees to IETF who fly for more than 12h to get there,
suffer a material
Sorry for top-post.
in a purely personal capacity, having spent many MANY hours jabber
scribing in a number of WG (IPFIX, DNSext/DNSop/SIDR, plenary):
Its a thankless (mostly) task.
its exhausting for more than 30min without a break.
its impossible to participate in a WG discussion an
write your auth number down.
once you complete an app, the number is valid for 2+ years with
modifications to travel plans each time, but, and this is a killer:
the web app will NOT send you a reminder of your number, and if you
'reapply' you get bounced 5 forms in.
if you can't remember
Caveat: I am not an RF engineer. I am no longer trusted to do much network
config by my team. I run NetBSD rather than a commercial OS and can
probably be regarded as a (l)user.
We're a mix of platforms, probably more diverse than most smaller, dense
deployments. Few of us get to
I call again for meetings run over the weekend. midweek to midweek.
1) cheaper hotel rates for attendees. weekends are cheaper.
2) less congestion in airports for flights.
3) for Europe and Asia, attendance in the USA becomes a loss of two weekends
(one either side) and for the Americans,
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smoke filled rooms, including uniforms with medal-bars out to the elbows...
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Just a pov.
I love MBONE. I see no reason not to try and have it.
for APNIC member meetings we decided to go with Quicktime RTSP: and SDP: url
encoded streams. they worked well. one onsite, one offsite. avoid congestion.
they have really bad scaling for hundreds of people. but lets be
wired for simultaneous translation, I can't believe there
isn't 75-Ohm audio cabling between all halls via patch panels...
cheers
-George
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Could somebody re-post a pointer to the canonical 'IETF jabber' howto please?
the various archived documents seem to be a twisty maze. the archives for
sessions I found were for March, nothing current.
-George
Just because I *have* a NAT box to use at home doesn't mean I *like* NAT.
I expect to find deployment of IPv6 at home challenging, in part because I've
already spent my 'five-year-plan' funds on networks for home.
Its the same road-trap digital TV is caught in: people do not rush out and buy
Dean, please can you change the subject line. If you are going to complain to
the IETF about process, I have absolutely no desire to be brought into it, and
it certainly isn't part of anything I conciously wanted to initiate in my
posting.
cheers
-George
I found the jabber logs helped me decide when to move between sessions, when
micro-timing of schedules wasn't apparent and I had to be in 'both' sessions.
I found sidebar conversations carried the subjective information you missed. I
don't think we can yet intuit the consensus of the room to put
Looking for words to express the sense of frustration when you have a bloody
interesting session, you have saved bloody interesting Qs from the floor, you
have people on jabber who want to see the stuff, and the f***$%#^D network
dies on you, so you can't put the stuff into the jabber session at
Microsoft is now using the name 'darknet' to refer to the overlay networks of
point to point filesharing in their Digital Rights Management (DRM) position
papers in conferences.
So, in the public eye, this neologism has probably now been taken to mean this
activity,
Rather than descend into
So is teardown on a non-IETF day scheduled for 4am or 5am?
No, really: How long can the itnerant ex-attendee sit in the lounge and
be on line? Or, how long at the Britpub with the feed?
-George
PS I have been dying to ask: does anybody measure the size of the suspected
pool of
non-secured tunnels, it gets
harder to do a sell on IPSEC. which is a shame, because I really like
IP layer abstracted methods, and the idea of generic infrastructure rather
than applications-level point solutions.
cheers
-George
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* smaller.
So is this a significant trend, and is it proving to continue?
-George
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'Australia's fallen off the net again!'
Actually, that was Britain in 1985/6, when the BBN butterfly lacked sufficient
memory to handle the routes and the UK dropped off the bottom. Ah, where
would we be without fixed price contracts. no cash, no fixums.
Better yet the hosts.txt file and
We'll know when the Internet 'matters' on this measure, when they
take the management and oversight away from the IETF.
Like all other conspiracy theories, this falls down on defining
who 'they' are and 'matters'.
Australian State and Federal statistics on Internet only began a couple
of years
-George
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-George
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reasons and I seem to recall
some more than proof of concept uux methods to re-create forwarding data but
thats probably never been exploited in an IP network.
Then there are the checkgroups message flows in News...
cheers
-George
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Email
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(this is on a client base of around 3000 hosts, weighted for Australia/NZ)
cheers
-George
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the new digits are in front of the old semi-optional prefixes.
In other words, the old '7 digits is all people can handle' rule is melting
in the face of a larger pool of people who have to use longer digit strings.
cheers
-George
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What's the SOLUTION?
:
* ^Subject:.*How large is too large
/dev/null
procmail is your friend
randy
Great solution for the last mile. Shame it makes some people pay to import
what they will throw away...
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Reynolds used to post, which had the two variant
MIME attachments for fetch it via FTP and fetch via the web. We just need
more people to be that sensible!
cheers
-George
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