being in the room reflect a serious insecurity in the type and
quality of work that
we are supposed to be producing.
/bill
On 9October2013Wednesday, at 13:02, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 10/10/2013 08:27, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
...
What I am not sure about is whether people are willing
approach. If we (the affected
community) feel that a top down approach would be
for the best, going forward, I see no better top-down organization
than the ITU-T.The community will decide the relevance of a group that
ignores or dismisses their needs.
/bill
1. People outside think
and tested in a root
server operator testbed (the OTDR testbed) from 1998-2005. It was considered
more fragile than the current system.
/bill
On 8October2013Tuesday, at 6:19, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:53 AM, manning bill bmann...@isi.edu wrote:
I think the US executive branch would be better rid of the control before
the vandals work out how to use it for mischief. But better would
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
dnssdext-requ...@ietf.org
(reason: 550 5.1.1 dnssdext-requ...@ietf.org: Recipient address rejected:
User unknown in virtual alias table)
On 3October2013Thursday, at 8:42, The IESG wrote:
A new IETF working group has been
but the To Subscribe pointer is busted….
/bill
On 3October2013Thursday, at 11:43, Tim Chown wrote:
On 3 Oct 2013, at 18:07, manning bill bmann...@isi.edu wrote:
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
dnssdext-requ...@ietf.org
(reason: 550 5.1.1 dnssdext-requ
perhaps you remember the Comodo CA fraud problem?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2011/03/how-the-comodo-certificate-fraud-calls-ca-trust-into-question/
/bill
On 10September2013Tuesday, at 14:47, John R Levine wrote:
You go to a Web page that has the HTML or Javascript control for generating
on decentralization of that part of the centralized DNS.
/bill
given the nature of the TXT RR, in particular the RDATA field,
I presume it is the path of prudence to set the barrier to registration
in this new IANA registry to be -VERY- low.
Or is the intent to create a two class system, registered and unregistered
types?
/bill
On 30August2013Friday
the duration of this work a six month period to
gain emperical insight would not be a bad thing.
Would it?
/bill
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On 23August2013Friday, at 6:36, IETF Secretariat wrote:
88th IETF Meeting
Vancouver, BC, Canada
November 3-8, 2013
Host: Huawei
Meeting venue: Hyatt Regency Vancouver:
http://vancouver.hyatt.com/en/hotel/home.html
Register online at: http
On 23August2013Friday, at 11:04, John Levine wrote:
Nobody has argued that SPF usage is zero, and the reasons for
deprecating SPF have been described repeatedly here and on the ietf
list, so this exercise seems fairly pointless.
the reasons for not deprecating SPF have been described
would this mandate wearing badges only in certain locations, e.g. over the left
breast?
/bill
On 6August2013Tuesday, at 23:26, Riccardo Bernardini wrote:
Just thinking out aloud
What about a web-cam (maybe a wireless one? Never tried to use
them...) right under the mic, so
we have never voted at IETFs.
we believe in rough consensus and running code
/bill
On 1August2013Thursday, at 2:14, A ndy Bierman wrote:
Hi,
Isn't it obvious why humming is flawed and raising hands works?
(Analog vs. digital). A hand is either raised or it isn't.
The sum of all hands
you are not allowed to register for two days.
/bill
On 10July2013Wednesday, at 9:01, Paul Aitken wrote:
Can you help me understand why the One Day Pass rate ($350) is so high
compared with the full week rate ($650 / $800)?
Registering for two days could cost more than a week!
Surely
amen! :)
On 31May2013Friday, at 17:23, Randy Bush wrote:
rant
the sad fact is that the ietf culture is often not very good at
listening to the (ops) customer. look at the cf we have made out of
ipv6. the end user, and the op, want the absolute minimal change and
cost, let me get an
of
an idea in the IETF context.
/bill
On 28May2013Tuesday, at 7:59, Loa Andersson wrote:
Adrian,
I'm fine with this draft as long as it stays informational and is
viewed as a commentary on how what we are doing in the border land
between individual and formal working group documents, i.e
and is now closed.
3) - The full DNS standards fail to include the RFC 2026 language that would
suggest mandatory capabilities.
So, while a nice idea, it is hardly practical from an IETF (or any top-down)
perspective…
/bill
On 20May2013Monday, at 17:26, Mark Andrews wrote:
I call upon
on. Or persuade Yokogawa Electric Corporation to spin the
test suite back up.
/bill
On 20May2013Monday, at 19:20, Mark Andrews wrote:
In message 7e5b1b3d-8af1-4ffe-bda2-47efb6d35...@vpnc.org, Paul Hoffman
writes:
On May 20, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote
Protocol
Only using the word standard when it was determined to be
stable and recommended for wide usage.
Anyway, my 2 cents.
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On 17April2013Wednesday, at 12:45, SM wrote:At 04:54 17-04-2013 it was written:Is it true that you are really Professor Irwin Corey?As I was unfamiliar with the above I looked it up.From RFC 3184: "The work of the IETF relies on cooperation among a broad cultural diversity of peoples, ideas, and
sound, technically grounded solutions,
and seek to become part
of the community instead of trying to force the community to fit your view….
(Irwin is a consummate observer of the human condition)
/bill
across page break.
Section 5, para 2:
Implemenations - Implementations
Section 5.1, last para:
String indentifier - String identifier
Section 7, para 1:
Implemenations - Implementations
Section Author's Address:
No email address given for Jukka-Pekka Makela.
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a bunch of running code out there, but
this (and perhaps teasing apart the add and insert concepts into
separate verbs) seems worth the bother.
Barry, as participant
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is ...an IETF context... well defined?
/bill
On 11/6/12, IETF Chair ch...@ietf.org wrote:
The IESG is considering a revision to the NOTE WELL text. Please review and
comment.
Russ
=== Proposed Revised NOTE WELL Text ===
Note Well
This summary is only meant to point you in the right
wondered about that limitation for at least 15 years. I
have come up with possible explanations but without a shred of
evidence from the RFCs.
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If anything I would evaluate the evidence to indicate that the
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on MUST and SHOULD for
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like if the status is renamed:
Disagree-But-Overruled
the annoyance becomes much smaller.
(Just my 2 cents)
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, there should probably be
an obvious gap in the number range (going to 5 digit or 6 digit numbers).
-1 (simple sequentially increasing RFC numbers for all items is fine)
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and I guess I am the only one who might still use it - but regardless, if its
broken, it should be fixed
to wit:
A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-(ofthehour).txt
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
usage. E.g.:
5^(*FWS , *FWS)10 abc
-
Typo: 2.1 Examples, fourth example should be: ^(-)element
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don't forget the comfy chairs and soft cushions...
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On 15November2010Monday, at 1:34, Bert wrote:
On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
Bert on the other hand has clearly been taking advantage of us for
years, we should put a stop to that :-)
The Secret Working
think the community
is poorer as a result.
perhaps we should take a leaf from the IoT community and insist on
implanted RFID tags
as our badges? surely that would make it easier to track attendees
and allow for a much
finer grained billing structure?
--bill
attractive qualities.
just my 0.02 lira.
--bill
On 20October2010Wednesday, at 12:25, Richard Shockey wrote:
And finally, regarding:
It is unclear why this data is better maintained by the DNS
than in an unrelated application protocol.
If a device is performing an ENUM dip hoping to find
On 20October2010Wednesday, at 13:47, Richard Shockey wrote:
Well Bill with due respect, the data that most of us would like to use for
this class of application is very static and its sources are very
authoritative. That which is somewhat volatile is easy to sync such as Local
Number
On 20October2010Wednesday, at 14:06, David Conrad wrote:
Bill,
On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:58 PM, bill manning wrote:
right... but only rarely in the DNS world do edge nodes actually go hit
the authoritative sources. much/most of the time they hit a cache,
often
one run
/zone/delegation, not a
specific RRset.
Everything in a domain has the exact same threat model.
--bill
Tony.
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HUMBER THAMES DOVER WIGHT PORTLAND: NORTH BACKING WEST OR NORTHWEST, 5 TO 7,
DECREASING 4 OR 5, OCCASIONALLY 6 LATER
is
correct,
can we dereference friendly and hostile to whom? Who makes that assessment
and who/what defines the tools to implement a trust policy?
--bill
If we want people deploying DNSSEC widely, we need to make sure it
handles the actual threats they face.
R's,
John
PS: If I plug
one for yourselves.
** guess this makes the code sprint prior to the meetings questionable.
--bill
On 24August2010Tuesday, at 8:51, Dave CROCKER wrote:
On 8/24/2010 8:28 AM, Mary Barnes wrote:
My question then is whether you tell them at border control that you are
attending a meeting
that strictly speaking, a business visa would be in
order. Number five seems to suggest an invitation letter from the local
organizers would be prudent.
as usual, YMMV.
--bill
On 24August2010Tuesday, at 15:34, Mary Barnes wrote:
U.S. customs is the least of my worries in this situation. In the 15 years
reasonable to describe these editing cycles I
am not sure that Full quite captures the goal of this process.
For what it's worth.
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Sadly, now we may never know. ;-)
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-mail lists. I know someone has
to have done something like that...
Oh wait - I'll leave you back to your regularly scheduled vendor
specific lock-in now.
Bill (darn it - 3 days late - but I had to skip April Fools this year)
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the entire document,
use paste as paragraphs to get it into xxe, and insert sections /
reflow paragraphs / etc. as needed.
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ISO not withstanding, its still confusing if only because other cultures use
yyddmm. If the IETF website used something like ISO-2010-01-02 maybe.
This format is less confusing: 02jan2010
--bill
On 13March2010Saturday, at 7:06, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Mar 13, 2010, at 9:51 AM
- but there was a local host then)
but this does not seem to be a (good) way to increase
percived value for money.
--bill (who is taking no chances this time and is pre-paying
the full rate ahead of time - but is likely to only attend
two WG sessions)
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 02:06:42PM -0800, David Morris
to be intended to allow for recursive lookup and a proper
NXDOMAIN to be returned as normal. I think that it is specifically intended
NOT be treated specially by resolvers.
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they should be listed at level Top since they are each
handled by the SLD .arpa rather than the root.
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than the Swedish law that requires
all traffic that crosses their border to be monitored?
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to
include -ALL- of the operational actors in a coordinated
response, not something driven by one of them.
IMHO of course.
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Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and
certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise
that the acronym URI is explained (IMHO unnecessarily) but
dtn is not.
Even reading the draft, I could not determine what dtn means.
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that meets the community's needs as
equitably as possible. Speaking only for myself,
for the -whole- community ... :)
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moved my entire dual-stack network to
single stack (v6) - with two exceptions... the IVI gateway
and the DNS/DHCP server.
--bill
Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and
certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise
the japanese equivalent of the OMROM V600-D23P71
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On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:16:37AM -0700, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
I have asked Osamu and Kato to answer. Stay tuned.
Ole
Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
Tel: +1 408-527-8972
.
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 09:29:52AM -0400, Steve Crocker wrote:
There are hundreds of millions of IPv4 computers and perhaps millions
of individual IPv4 transport networks, large and small.
Here are some useful points along the way from pure IPv4 to pure IPv6.
A. Every new computer
technology (RFIDs in badges) to obviate the need to sign in.
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wrt tlp... care to expand the tla plz?
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a few times over the years in one
form or another.
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that is being overshadowed by your strident insistance that DNSSEC is
not secure end to end. I agree with you that it is not, and I say
so what... thats not what it was designed for.
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Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and
certainly don't reflect those of any
of authoritative servers. It could be possible, but
unweildy
to do complete channel security. But to what end?
--bill
Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and
certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise
from consideration
without any chance of some engineering judgement (or even horse-trading) to
get the implementations to become interoperable and to resolve the
ambiguity.
OTOH, maybe that WAS the intent of the charter.
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it
to, say VZB.
VZB automated systems notice and promptly announce VZB prefixes from
AS 701.
Is the 15ms moritorium excessive?
--bill
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, several lines spill onto the second
page.
Ah, simplification, isn't it grand?
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(moving ipr-related
statements from Status of this Memo to Copyright Notice) will
require a new spin of the xml2rfc changes that I completed over the
weekend. Is this really a good change to make right now?
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published an I-D with those words in it after RFC 5378 was
published as BCP 78, then that I-D is subject to the rights, licenses
and restrictions contained in RFC 5378.
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On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:17:47AM -0800, Lawrence Rosen wrote:
Bill Manning wrote:
This document is an Internet-Draft and is subject to all provisions of
Section 10 of RFC2026 except that the right to produce derivative works
is not granted.
- and -
So for some IETF work product
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 04:28:31PM -0800, Randy Presuhn wrote:
Hi -
From: Bill Manning bmann...@isi.edu
To: Lawrence Rosen lro...@rosenlaw.com
Cc: 'IETF Discussion' ietf@ietf.org
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Trustees] ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite
that brought about that change. :-)
Anyway, this tangent has probably run it's course, so I'll drop it on this
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the new boilerplate.
They gave one working day of notice that they expected the tools to be
updated to begin accepting the new boilerplate last month, so this
notification is at least twice as reasonable.
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I am wary of the apparently-litigious nature of a couple of
participants in the ipr wg, and I'm not covered by the IETF's
liability insurance any more.)
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/impact. And the primary point
of visability (under the IETF control) is key roll. at least
imho. others will no doubt have their own points.
I look forward to more clarification on this proposed experiment.
--bill
Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you
interpretation, however.
I think the problem occurs when you have -two- paths to
validation and the answers conflict.
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there is consensus on what to do here. and I am dubious that
there will be significant change before IETF 74.
but I could be wrong and may have to show up just to see how well the IETF
recreates Interop!
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certainly don't reflect
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and some other text changes.
I also hope that some guidelines for standard ways to reference a
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On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 07:46:21AM -0400, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
but what about cookie preference?
s/cookie preference/cookie size preference/
Marshall
;-)
James
Dietary Restrictions?
Tony Hansen
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Opinions
is that there's no annotation as to
why it's removed, or when, or by whom. *sigh*)
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. And it wasn't just stapled together, it was a real
booklet, folded and stapled like a newsletter.
Yeah! Hardcopy again! (can we get the actual WG proceedings
in print too?)
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- the
IETF was finished - more workshops, training sessions,
interop testing, OARC meetings, IRTF etc.
IETF working group meetings, per se, during the week
became less interesting, since actual work occured
the weekend before and the weekend after.
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Opinions expressed
it is possible to have a host name also be a domain name.
myself, i look forward to sending email to
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On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 01:49:24AM -0400, John C Klensin wrote:
--On Monday, 07 July, 2008 12:08 -0700 Bill Manning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John, do you beleive that DNS host semantics/encoding that
form the bulk of the IDN work (stringprep, puny-code, et.al
, et.al.) are applicable -only- in
the context of zone file generation or are they also applicable in
configuration and acess control for DNS?
path/alias expansion/evaluation will be interesting if . is not what
7bit ASCII thinks of as .
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Opinions expressed
SECTION:
version.bind. 0S CHAOS TXT9.4.2
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
version.bind. 0S CHAOS NS version.bind.
so - recent resolver code does this trick.
ob. Unexpected attachment on this mail? - I was actually expecting
an attachment that was not there.
--bill
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 02:25:31PM -0700, Ted Faber wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 02:04:31PM -0700, Bill Manning wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:44:28PM -0700, Ted Faber wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:38:28PM -0700, Ted Faber wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:32:10PM -0700, [EMAIL
:-) ...
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of the farward map is occasionally easier than manipulation
of the reverse map... which i think is what you are trying
to say.
and it is often true that those who manage the forward DNS map
are -NOT- the same folks that manage the reverse DNS map.
--bill
Opinions
basis?
creating a useful RFC that creates a registry and maintains it in a
timely
fashion -in this century- seems a bedtime fable.
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would the ISSN apply to the whole series?
--bill
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 01:52:09PM -0400, Ray Pelletier wrote:
The IETF Trust is considering applying to the U.S. Library of Congress
to obtain an International Standard Serial Number (ISSN) for the RFC
Series and would like community input
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