Yoav,
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 11:08 +0200, Yoav Nir wrote:
> On Nov 12, 2010, at 7:36 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
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> > I don't agree. If there is people "essential" to the meeting but can't pay,
> > as we all pay for that, we have the right to know.
>
> I disagree with that. There is a privacy
Perhaps we should follow the example of Oxford and Cambridge and make them
sit at a different table and do menial tasks for the Gentlemen students.
Oh wait, they abolished that in the 19th Century.
The IETF business model certainly has problems, but the proportion of
attendees paying for meeting
At 04:03 12-11-10, Shane Kerr wrote:
It is sometimes possible to create systems to meet the needs of privacy
and oversight - for example a closed review board - but I think just
publishing a list of who gets free access to each IETF is probably good
a good idea.
There is already an IETF Adminis
On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:06 AM, SM wrote:
> At 04:03 12-11-10, Shane Kerr wrote:
>> It is sometimes possible to create systems to meet the needs of privacy
>> and oversight - for example a closed review board - but I think just
>> publishing a list of who gets free access to each IETF is probably g
On Nov 14, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
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> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:06 AM, SM wrote:
>
>> At 04:03 12-11-10, Shane Kerr wrote:
>>> It is sometimes possible to create systems to meet the needs of privacy
>>> and oversight - for example a closed review board - but I think just
>>> publishing
--On Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:20 -0500 Marshall Eubanks
wrote:
>> How many of those are volunteers/host/NOC/future host, and
>> how many are "discretionary comp"?
>
> There was exactly 1 "discretionary" in Beijing.
>
> Wearing no hats, and just my own personal opinion, this seems
> like
Hi Yoav,
Here's the executive sound-bite:
[Allegations of corruption on the news ticker]
The IETF Chair is giving out free tickets.
Paying attendees vote for an "everyone pays" policy.
At 02:08 14-11-10, Yoav Nir wrote:
How many of those are volunteers/host/NOC/future host, and how many
a
On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:50 PM, SM wrote:
>> enough, because the corruption that we're trying to solve would
>> require collaboration between the IETF chair and the IAOC. I would
>> say that the risk is low enough that privacy trumps transparency.
>
> As you used the term "corruption", I'll go w
Keep in mind that the volunteers don't typically have any time to
partake in the meeting itself, in fact, on average they dont' even
partake in the cookie breaks. We do separately fund the NOC activities
in various ways, but in practice "free registration" only amounts to
a badge and the T-shirt
On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
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> Bert on the other hand has clearly been taking advantage of us for
> years, we should put a stop to that :-)
The Secret Working Group has ways to sneak me into your meetings, which
includes bribes, corruption, intimidation, backdoors, and
don't forget the comfy chairs and soft cushions...
--bill
On 15November2010Monday, at 1:34, Bert wrote:
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> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>
>>
>> Bert on the other hand has clearly been taking advantage of us for
>> years, we should put a stop to that :-)
>
>
> The Sec
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marshall
Eubanks [...@americafree.tv]
Wearing no hats, and just my own personal opinion, this seems like making a
mountain out of a molehill to me.
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