Re: [indiana-discuss] opensolaris.com designs

2008-04-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Arthur Rudnik wrote: multi-color bubbles > So it looks like we'll have to provide massive feedback to get a logo that's > actually looking good ... > I've been looking at the bubbles for a week or so now. They are growing on me. Give 'em a chance ... Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgri

Re: [indiana-discuss] Updated packages available for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I am posting this message from the 0805rc2a.iso LiveCD. The fonts in FF@ are much better now. Thanks a whole bunch! There were a couple of either warnings or error messages during the initial boot (about certain port that was not available); I forgot to write them down. Will begin to install

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Lurie
The LiveCD performance is abyssmal. The cpu usage is skyrocketing. I imagine this is due to LZMA... But is LZMA worth it ? There is a world of difference in terms of speed in contrast to DP1 & DP2 and I would think that some people will be put-off by this initial experience (how would they know

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread JK
"You've come a long way baby.." I just had to say that the new test image is looking great. I love the layout and everything seems to work so far (been using it for two hours..). When the final release comes out this will definitely replace my Gentoo system. Great job and thanks for all the har

Re: [indiana-discuss] Updated packages available for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> > The packages on pkg.opensolaris.org have now been > > updated. If you've > > got a system running the release candidate, then > > check your > > authorities are correctly configured via > > $ pkg authority > > AUTHORITY URL > > opensolaris.org (preferred) > >

Re: [indiana-discuss] opensolaris.com designs

2008-04-25 Thread Alex Leverington
I have a few suggestions with regard to this design, or rather, it's organization: Rather than have the 3 Large banners wasting web space, have one 500px (or larger) banner linking to the proposed design at a location such as opensolaris.com/getos/ (great URL!). If the proposed site were the

Re: [indiana-discuss] Release Notes submissions for May

2008-04-25 Thread jan damborsky
Hi Barbara, please see below for two issues which are not fixed in build 86 and which will affect partitioning feature. I am CCing Barry Harding who is responsible engineer for these bugs and thus might provide more accurate information or correct me as far as specifying the problem and appropria

Re: [indiana-discuss] simplified network interface names for indiana?

2008-04-25 Thread Alex Leverington
On Apr 24, 2008, at 6:18 AM, Calum Benson wrote: > > On 23 Apr 2008, at 22:41, Kyle McDonald wrote: > >> I need to think about it more, but I think there may be value not in >> naming interfaces by shipset as we currently do but by 'type' (wired, >> wireless, WAN, etc.) It probably deserves more

Re: [indiana-discuss] Updated packages available for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Steve Christensen
Stephen - I did a clean install of 2008.05 rc2a with no problems. Following your instructions, I wanted to see if my Companion CD repository would work with the package manager. I did pfexec pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.sunfreeware.com:9000 sunfreeware.com pfexec pkg refresh both as ro

Re: [indiana-discuss] Updated packages available for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Steve Christensen
Stephen - One more comment on the package manager tool ease of use. If I bring the tool up and look at the opensolaris.org repository and click on All, I see all of the packages as I should. Then if I do a search for say python, it takes a bit, but it then lists those packages related to pytho

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Mario Goebbels
> The LiveCD performance is abyssmal. The cpu usage is > skyrocketing. It is definitely noticeable. Are there improvements to the LZMA algorithm expected? The related bug in Bugzilla suggested something like this. Also, you guys should consider going with a lighter and simpler default backgroun

Re: [indiana-discuss] Indiana on VirtualBox

2008-04-25 Thread Pedro A. Aranda
AFAIK, the problem really lies in the fact that none of the packages you could install and which has the header files GCC would need to compile the driver seems to have sys/mac.h and associated files. That's why you can't compile the ae drivers :-( /pa -- This message posted from opensolaris.

Re: [indiana-discuss] simplified network interface names for indiana?

2008-04-25 Thread Calum Benson
On 25 Apr 2008, at 10:33, Alex Leverington wrote: > > For clarity, it seems that this would be to make naming consistent. > netN doesn't address ambiguity of interface names, but vanity names > does. > > Why does the picture have to have netN in parenthesis? It doesn't "have" to of course, it

Re: [indiana-discuss] Updated packages available for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Calum Benson
On 25 Apr 2008, at 12:19, Steve Christensen wrote: > Now in order to do anything else, I have go into the search box and > by hand and remove the word python before I can do anything else. > Otherwise, nothing else shows up in the main window unless it is > related to python. Could there

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Mario Goebbels
Ok, I appear to be done toying around. I've installed it in VirtualBox, worked fine. Also have gotten my new hardware today* and had to reinstall, so put RC2a on it, worked fine, too. There was an install bug listed in the blocker bug, where the installer could be help up while finding disks wh

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread David . Comay
> It is definitely noticeable. Are there improvements to the LZMA algorithm > expected? The related bug in Bugzilla suggested something like this. As I mentioned in my earlier reply, based on the MD5 checksum that Stephen quoted, the image on the torrent should be the non-LZMA version. Are you s

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Dave Miner
Mario Goebbels wrote: > Ok, I appear to be done toying around. I've installed it in VirtualBox, > worked fine. Also have gotten my new hardware today* and had to reinstall, so > put RC2a on it, worked fine, too. > > There was an install bug listed in the blocker bug, where the installer could >

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread David . Comay
> (*: Can I use OpenSolaris 2008.05 to validate and submit hardware > compatibility info to Sun?) The new Device Detection Utility which appears on the desktop on the live CD (and is otherwise available from the System/Administration menu) can be used to submit such information. dsc

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread David . Comay
> The LiveCD performance is abyssmal. The cpu usage is skyrocketing. > > I imagine this is due to LZMA... But is LZMA worth it ? There is a world of > difference in terms of speed in contrast to DP1 & DP2 and I would think that > some people will be put-off by this initial experience (how would t

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Kyle McDonald
Stephen Hahn wrote: >As with Developer Preview 2, we'd like to offer a release candidate >out so that the teams can get some feedback. Unlike DP1 or DP2, we >are going to update the packages on pkg.opensolaris.org. This update >will take place in the next 24 hours--a specific mess

Re: [indiana-discuss] Updated packages available for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread David . Comay
> Well, I thought I was able to update from DP2. I could be more wrong. : -) Yes, you can upgrade from Preview 2 but it requires a bit of manual intervention. We'll be posting upgrade instructions soon once they're finalized. dsc ___ indiana-discuss m

[indiana-discuss] Automatic update/upgrade

2008-04-25 Thread Marcelo Leal
Hello there, I'm assuming that after the first "stable/production" release of "OpenSolaris" (05/05/08), the system will be like Debian/Ubuntu.. i mean, users will not have to reinstall the system anymore, just "apt-get update" and "upgrade". Am i right? You know, there is nothing wrong in just

Re: [indiana-discuss] Automatic update/upgrade

2008-04-25 Thread Shawn Walker
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Marcelo Leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello there, > I'm assuming that after the first "stable/production" release of > "OpenSolaris" (05/05/08), the system will be like Debian/Ubuntu.. i > mean, users will not have to reinstall the system anymore, just >

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Steffen Weiberle
Stephen Hahn wrote: >As with Developer Preview 2, we'd like to offer a release candidate >out so that the teams can get some feedback. Unlike DP1 or DP2, we >are going to update the packages on pkg.opensolaris.org. This update >will take place in the next 24 hours--a specific mess

Re: [indiana-discuss] Automatic update/upgrade

2008-04-25 Thread Marcelo Leal
Ok, thanks for the answer... but... what about the release planned for 05/05? That release will have the support for upgrade to the next release? Or that feature is not supposed to be included in that version yet? ps.: I'm talking about the upgrade for the whole system (user/kerne land). thanks

Re: [indiana-discuss] opensolaris.com designs

2008-04-25 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
It grows on you...just isn't very inspiring. -J On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arthur Rudnik wrote: > multi-color bubbles > > So it looks like we'll have to provide massive feedback to get a logo > that's actually looking good ... > > > > I'v

[indiana-discuss] Problem installing Indiana RC2a: No randomness provider enabled

2008-04-25 Thread Dan Anderson
I just installed Indiana RC2a, based on NV86 on a Acer Ferrari 4005 WLMi AMD64 laptop. I get this message after installing on first boot: kcf: [ID 415456 kern.warning] WARNING: No randomness provider enabled for /dev/random. Use cryptoadm(1M) to enable provider. The system seems to work OK, but

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Also, it took a very long time to log out and re-log in (at least 3~4 minutes). I thought this was an aberration in DP2, but this problem is carried over to rc2. Furthermore, what happened to the "Desktop"? It disappeared?! Feels very strange. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [indiana-discuss] Problem installing Indiana RC2a: No randomness provider enabled

2008-04-25 Thread Dave Miner
Dan Anderson wrote: > I just installed Indiana RC2a, based on NV86 on a Acer Ferrari 4005 > WLMi AMD64 laptop. I get this message after installing on first boot: > > > kcf: [ID 415456 kern.warning] WARNING: No randomness provider enabled > for /dev/random. Use cryptoadm(1M) to enable provider. >

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Furthermore, what happened to the "Desktop"? It > disappeared?! Feels very strange. Oops, it should be the "Desktop background" that seems to have disappeared. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-dis

[indiana-discuss] Suggestion for May release: Add Indiana to Sun Device Detection Tool

2008-04-25 Thread andrew
My suggestion is in three stages: firstly, to add the Indiana May release as an option in the existing Sun Device Detection Tool. Secondly, provide a prominent link to the DDT on the download page for Indiana. Thirdly, include the DDT on the Indiana CD itself (although there is a slightly chicke

Re: [indiana-discuss] Suggestion for May release: Add Indiana to Sun Device Detection Tool

2008-04-25 Thread Shawn Walker
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:30 PM, andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My suggestion is in three stages: firstly, to add the Indiana May release as > an option in the existing Sun Device Detection Tool. Secondly, provide a > prominent link to the DDT on the download page for Indiana. Thirdly, inclu

Re: [indiana-discuss] Automatic update/upgrade

2008-04-25 Thread Bart Smaalders
Marcelo Leal wrote: > Ok, thanks for the answer... but... what about the release planned for > 05/05? That release will have the support for upgrade to the next > release? Or that feature is not supposed to be included in that > version yet? > > ps.: I'm talking about the upgrade for the whole sy

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Dave Miner
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: >> Furthermore, what happened to the "Desktop"? It >> disappeared?! Feels very strange. > > Oops, it should be the "Desktop background" that seems to have disappeared. You mean after an upgrade? Yes, go to the appearance preferences and pick a new one. Dave

[indiana-discuss] RC2a problems nwam, terminal, graphics.

2008-04-25 Thread A. Stockinger
Congrats to the Indiana Team, nice Distro is coming. Installed it on a IBM Thinkpad T41p (ATI inside); 1. if i change Rotation under Screen Resolution from Normal to Right >> boom X killed this should be deactivated for unsupported ATI Cards. 2. i use the ath0 with WPA encryption to my home hot

Re: [indiana-discuss] RC2a problems nwam, terminal, graphics.

2008-04-25 Thread Glenn Lagasse
* A. Stockinger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Congrats to the Indiana Team, nice Distro is coming. > > Installed it on a IBM Thinkpad T41p (ATI inside); > > 1. if i change Rotation under Screen Resolution from Normal to Right > >> boom X killed this should be deactivated for unsupported ATI Cards.

Re: [indiana-discuss] RC2a problems nwam, terminal, graphics.

2008-04-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
A. Stockinger wrote: > Congrats to the Indiana Team, nice Distro is coming. > > Installed it on a IBM Thinkpad T41p (ATI inside); > > 1. if i change Rotation under Screen Resolution from Normal to Right >> boom > X killed > this should be deactivated for unsupported ATI Cards. If X crashes, it'

Re: [indiana-discuss] Problem installing Indiana RC2a: No randomness provider enabled

2008-04-25 Thread Dan Anderson
I'm told the message is harmless and is fixed in NV88. It's a race condition between ZFS boot and swrand module loading. The fix was to make swrand a dependency for ZFS. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indian

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Webmail
> As I mentioned in my earlier reply, based on the MD5 checksum that > Stephen quoted, the image on the torrent should be the non-LZMA > version. Are you seeing a noticable degradation in all areas or just > from an installation perspective? It wasn't so long ago when I had to reinstall DP2, on

[indiana-discuss] Revised info for Root/Role

2008-04-25 Thread Barbara . Lundquist
Gang, Please review the revised Getting Started information about root/role/login specifications. See the RootRole.pdf ("Login and Root Specifications") at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/files/ In RootRole.pdf, see the new section at: 1 - "Login and Root Specifications" on page

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Perhaps we should move to the opensolaris.com forum to help doing the debugging: http://forums.opensolaris.com/index.jspa (The new forum seems to be better designed and more functional than the 'ol Jiva forum, IMHO.) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [indiana-discuss] Suggestion for May release: Add Indiana to Sun Device Detection Tool

2008-04-25 Thread frank Che
andrew Wrote: > My suggestion is in three stages: firstly, to add the Indiana May release as > an option in the existing Sun Device Detection Tool. This will be done when the May release is announced. > Secondly, provide a prominent link to the DDT on the download page for > Indiana. Thirdly, i

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Glynn Foster
Mario Goebbels (Webmail) wrote: >> As I mentioned in my earlier reply, based on the MD5 checksum that >> Stephen quoted, the image on the torrent should be the non-LZMA >> version. Are you seeing a noticable degradation in all areas or just >> from an installation perspective? > > It wasn't so

Re: [indiana-discuss] Test image for 2008.05

2008-04-25 Thread Glynn Foster
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > Perhaps we should move to the opensolaris.com forum to help doing the > debugging: > > http://forums.opensolaris.com/index.jspa > > (The new forum seems to be better designed and more functional than the 'ol > Jiva forum, IMHO.) That site is still in beta test, so I'd

Re: [indiana-discuss] Suggestion for May release: Add Indiana to Sun Device Detection Tool

2008-04-25 Thread Andras Barna
just wondering, nvidia legacy driver will be there? On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 2:39 AM, frank Che <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > andrew Wrote: > > My suggestion is in three stages: firstly, to add the Indiana May release > as an option in the existing Sun Device Detection Tool. > This will be done w

[indiana-discuss] Feedback on Indiana RC2a

2008-04-25 Thread Sriram Natarajan
Hi I just tried out Indiana RC2a image. Overall installation experience and 'fonts' look very smooth. Even the boot up time seem to have improved compared to Developer Preview 2. Good going. Kudos to the engineering team. However, I was surprised to see 'nwam' gui - for network configuration

Re: [indiana-discuss] opensolaris.com designs

2008-04-25 Thread John Sonnenschein
I'm not sure what Sun's going to consider "massive feedback", but the best I've heard about that logo is "meh, I guess it's not too hideous" -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org ht

Re: [indiana-discuss] Feedback on Indiana RC2a

2008-04-25 Thread Aubrey Li
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Sriram Natarajan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Indiana RC2 is still burning not lot of power when I run on my Tecra > M2. On battery, Windows XP (my other boot partition) gives me close to 2 > hours of battery. With Indiana RC2, I could hardly cross more than 45

Re: [indiana-discuss] Feedback on Indiana RC2a

2008-04-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Aubrey Li wrote: > Yeah, power saving will be a long way of opensolaris, not specific on > indiana only. > Currently, cpu power mangement option is not enabled by default. > If you are aware speedstep is supported on your laptop, you could > enable it(dtpower(1M)). dtpower, being part of CDE, is n