Re: [indiana-discuss] Name of Distro?

2007-06-21 Thread Jim Grisanzio
l in whatever form it takes because I think we can reach out to engage quite a large number of people in emerging markets. Some of the work is already going on in other projects, so we have a good opportunity to grow the project here. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris In my

Re: [indiana-discuss] Interesting comments regarding Indiana and OpenSolaris vs Linux installation.

2007-06-28 Thread Jim Grisanzio
ier this year" when in fact engineers have been working on this for quite some time. The install process is greatly improved from S10, and we as a community are going to improve it even more. Typical clueless media with almost zero knowledge of the history of the OpenSolaris project.

Re: [indiana-discuss] Stop

2007-07-02 Thread Jim Grisanzio
multi-national corporation. It goes both ways. The open source community really needs to open up more and be more flexible. One of the greatest lessons I've learned on this project is that the open source community doesn't know it all. Jim -- Ji

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-13 Thread Jim Grisanzio
David Lloyd wrote: > Brandorr, > >> Did I miss something? Did we even figure out what the Indiana Brand is >> yet? (e.g. Does it have a name, logo, etc?) > > I don't know what Indiana is meant to represent; I'm quite happy with > SXCE myself. Indiana is something that may as well start with Ian

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding

2007-09-15 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Ivan Wang wrote: >> David Lloyd wrote: >>> Brandorr, >>> Did I miss something? Did we even figure out what >> the Indiana Brand is yet? (e.g. Does it have a name, logo, etc?) >>> I don't know what Indiana is meant to represent; >> I'm quite happy with >>> SXCE myself. Indiana is somethin

Re: [indiana-discuss] [Fwd: [Fwd: [foss.in] FOSS.IN/2007 Speaker registration now open]]

2007-09-26 Thread Jim Grisanzio
I'm happy to get involved and I'll be going to foss. Do we know who is going and who is submitting papers? Jim Sara Dornsife wrote: > Let's coordinate efforts to have a strong presence here. > Sara > > Original Message > Subject: [foss.in] FOSS.IN/2007 Speaker registratio

Re: [indiana-discuss] [Fwd: [Fwd: [foss.in] FOSS.IN/2007 Speaker registration now open]]

2007-09-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Sara Dornsife wrote: > What's your topic? > Sara I talk about OpenSolaris from a community-development perspective. I don't talk about technology since I know nothing about technology. History, community, business, markets, user groups, future direction, success/failure, etc. I try to put the

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
eating something new here, so let's not clutter it up from the beginning. Also, Indiana will be used to introduce OpenSolaris technology to potentially very large numbers of people in emerging markets, so the branding experience should consider international realities as well. Jim -- Jim

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Patrick Finch wrote: > Jim Grisanzio wrote: >> Glynn Foster wrote: >>> Brandorr wrote: >>>> On 9/12/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Hey, >>>>> >>>>> One issue that probably requires some thought is

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Yah, perhaps "simple" is the wrong word. When I used Ubuntu I had the >> /feeling/ of simplicity and elegance (though wireless never worked for >> me). Someone sat down and thought the brand through at least to a >> certain extent, and I appreciated that. I love the J

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] General Branding Experience for Indiana

2007-09-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Shawn Walker wrote: > No offense to the fine folks at GNOME, but I really, really, hope that > the foot *dies* the death it deserves to as a product branding item. Agree. Not a foot fan. Needs to be something based on OpenSolaris ... Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/j

Re: [indiana-discuss] [Fwd: [Fwd: [foss.in] FOSS.IN/2007 Speaker registration now open]]

2007-09-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
I'll let you know. I'm getting new education/universities material from Teresa, as well. I'll give it all a test run at an IEEE conf here in Japan in a couple of weeks. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris ___ indiana-di

Re: [indiana-discuss] FOSS.IN/2007 Speaker registration now open

2007-09-28 Thread Jim Grisanzio
S h i v wrote: > Hello All, > > The FOSS.IN/2007 Call for Participation is announced and the > speaker/talk registration is now open. I see that the announcement has > already been picked up on Indiana mailing list. > > As announced in my earlier mail FOSS.IN/2007 is a 5 day program spread > acr

Re: [indiana-discuss] Batteries Not Included: A Handbook

2007-10-14 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Ken Mays wrote: > Glynn pushed out the video recordings from the OpenSolaris Dev Summit... > Have to tell him to fix site permissions so we can download those MP3s... > > http://dlc.sun.com/osol/advocacy/opensolaris_summit/ Seems fixed now ... Jim _

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Indiana as the OpenSolaris xxxx distro (was Re: [smf-discuss] Review for 6608098)

2007-10-19 Thread Jim Grisanzio
John Plocher wrote: Jim Grisanzio wrote: Is this the actual proposal or a proposal for a proposal? Given that I am the new guy on the block in the Advocacy Community, I'll defer to your guidance here. It seems to have support (several +1's, no -1 - yet)

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Indiana as the OpenSolaris xxxx distro (was Re: [smf-discuss] Review for 6608098)

2007-10-19 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Is this the actual proposal or a proposal for a proposal? Jim John Plocher wrote: Sara Dornsife wrote: I will write up the proposal and post it to these lists. Not lists, list. As in the Advocacy group's yet to be proposed "OpenSolaris Branding Project". Oops, I g

Re: [indiana-discuss] Great article on naming and OpenSolaris

2007-10-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Shawn Walker wrote: > A article that puts my thoughts into words far more eloquently than I > ever could: > > http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/10/26/opensolaris_naming/ I agree. Also, I've done some talking about Indiana this week in China, and more than a few people here are very much looking f

Re: [indiana-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

2007-10-31 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Joerg Schilling wrote: > I have no problem if Sun would start to publish something called: > "Sun OpenSolaris " Why would "Sun OpenSolaris" make sense? Actually, that expression has been used (incorrectly) in the media, and it's only added to the confusion. Also, isn't it a benefit for the

Re: [indiana-discuss] [ogb-discuss] [osol-discuss] Trust: Trademark, Sun and the Community

2007-11-01 Thread Jim Grisanzio
James Carlson wrote: > John Sonnenschein writes: >> Note that this is quite aside from how I or anyone else feels with >> respect to the name. I'm not asking for the name "OpenSolaris" to be >> attached to the indiana project or the contrary, I'm asking the OGB, >> whose job it is to stand up for t

Re: [indiana-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] [osol-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

2007-11-02 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Dennis Clarke wrote: >> All right. >> >> I don't even know where to begin. > > Welcome to the OpenSolaris Community where you can do great work, endless > hours year after year and get endless heartache for it. > > Ian, to be frank, you're new here. This sort of thing has gone on for > years and

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

2007-11-03 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Al Hopper wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Shawn Walker wrote: >> The ability to use the OpenSolaris name is a privilege; not a right. >^^^ > > This is absolutely correct. And, along with the ownership of that > trademark comes t

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

2007-11-03 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Jason J. W. Williams wrote: > Hey Guys, > > As someone who's come to OpenSolaris from outside the community, I > think the decision is right on. And Ian's comment that he doesn't get > it. It seems to me that community is important, but OpenSolaris has a > larger identity issue vis-a-vis the non-c

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

2007-11-04 Thread Jim Grisanzio
James Mansion wrote: > Surely, having a kernel developer community is the least of Sun's > actual problems. > Sun has developers and having most development done in the context of > a funded and > managed environment is very valuable. What is needed most of all is a > *user* community > that

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] screwdrivers - Re: [trademark-policy-dev] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

2007-11-04 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Derek Cicero wrote: >As I mentioned at the summit and on the website-discuss list, once this >project gets out of the 'preview' phase we'll probably move the >OpenSolaris distro to a separate mini-site on os.org and revert the old >/os/ home page back. > > > I like this idea. Jim -- http://

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

2007-11-04 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Joerg Schilling wrote: >SchilliX is a project and it still exists and Sun still does not help with >SchilliX. > >The main issue is that Sun did miss the time to create a commiunity >distribution >as Sun did not help with SchilliX. The time for createing a real single >community distro did p

[indiana-discuss] Next Indiana Conference?

2007-11-27 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Do we have an idea of when/where the next Indiana conference will be? Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Summit May '08

2008-03-17 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Jesse L Silver wrote: > Hi All- > > Many of you have been asking whether the OpenSolaris Developer Summit > May '08 is actually happening. The answer is, fortunately, yes! I'm > sorry we have been so light on details up to this point. Mainly it's > because we haven't been able to nail down a ven

Re: [indiana-discuss] [website-discuss] opensolaris.com designs

2008-04-16 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Glynn Foster wrote: > Hey, > > As opensolaris.com starts to focus more on the 'download, install and run' > experience, catering towards the consumer rather than the producer, a few > people > in Sun have been working on a design separate to that of the current > opensolaris.org. The following

Re: [indiana-discuss] opensolaris.com designs

2008-04-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Arthur Rudnik wrote: multi-color bubbles > So it looks like we'll have to provide massive feedback to get a logo that's > actually looking good ... > I've been looking at the bubbles for a week or so now. They are growing on me. Give 'em a chance ... Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgri

[indiana-discuss] Launch Pics

2008-05-06 Thread Jim Grisanzio
hey ... some images from yesterday in San Francisco ... http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/entry/opensolaris_launch_at_communityone_pics Jim ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-

[indiana-discuss] [Fwd: [osol-announce] Japan Launch event for OpenSolaris 2008.05]

2008-05-15 Thread Jim Grisanzio
fyi: we are doing an OpenSolaris launch in Tokyo. Should have a hundred or so people there. Jim Original Message Subject:[osol-announce] Japan Launch event for OpenSolaris 2008.05 Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 18:27:41 +0900 From: Takanobu Masuzuki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] [Fwd: [osol-announce] Japan Launch event for OpenSolaris 2008.05]

2008-05-25 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Ok, the deed is done ... we launched OpenSolaris 2008.05 in Tokyo on Friday. It was a successful event. Simon Phipps was our special guest and gave the opening talk, we had two community speakers, and the Sun Japan team created, presented, and managed the entire event. We also invited members o

Re: [indiana-discuss] FireFox 3 on os200805 works fine

2008-06-18 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Dennis Clarke wrote: > 5 ) run it > > $ firefox > Cool. Works great. :) Thanks, Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss

Re: [indiana-discuss] FireFox 3 on os200805 works fine

2008-06-18 Thread Jim Grisanzio
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > Don't want to rain on the parade, but FF3 seems to be running slower on my > 2008.05 than FF2. Also, it has crashed more than a couple of time after I > installed the Flash plugin (especially when I tabbed out Gmail.com ) > My experience: nice quick download, easy ins

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-announce] Repository update: snv91

2008-06-21 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Ok, I think I'm almost there. All steps to this point went ok. Took about 40 mins for download/install. I'm in Tokyo on wireless. > $ beadm list > BEActive Active on Mountpoint Space > Name reboot Used > --

Re: [indiana-discuss] Repository update: snv91

2008-06-22 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Sanjay G. Nadkarni wrote: > I was able to successfully perform an pkg image-update from 2008.05 (86) to > 91. For the heck of it, I tried without updating to the latest SUNWipkg. > The only issue I hit was the pkg timeout which was addressed by setting the > PKG_CLIENT_TIMEOUT to 120. > > O

Re: [indiana-discuss] new ISO soon?

2008-07-07 Thread Jim Grisanzio
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:33 AM, David Orman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you give an average person the current 2008.5 cd, would you wager >> they'd successfully be able to install it on their hardware, update it to >> the most recent release, and perform all other necessary/wise things? But

Re: [indiana-discuss] new ISO soon?

2008-07-07 Thread Jim Grisanzio
David Orman wrote: > I'm not arguing it should be there already, I'm simply arguing we > should strive to get there in the future - and updated ISOs would > allow people earlier access to the fixed bits. :) That's fine. I'll upgrade. I need the practice. :) > As to your second point, required rea

Re: [indiana-discuss] new ISO soon?

2008-07-07 Thread Jim Grisanzio
MC wrote: > Not to mention the extra languages which aren't needed in most areas, so a > run of CDs for western universities could be made with only > english+french+spanish, while a run for china could be only etc+etc+etc I'd add Korean and Chinese to your western run since there are a lot of

Re: [indiana-discuss] OS 2008.05 on EeePC 900

2008-08-04 Thread Jim Grisanzio
fyi: I just set up an eeepc list http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/eeepc-discuss for Robert Sohigian in China. I see these machines a lot in Japan, and I just met a Japanese developer who's really into them http://masafumi-ohta.blogspot.com/ (he blogs in English, though). Jim -- ht

Re: [indiana-discuss] http://pkg.opensolaris.org/ package repository update (build 95)

2008-08-18 Thread Jim Grisanzio
On 08/15/08 00:32, Alan Steinberg wrote: > The OpenSolaris development package repository > > http://pkg.opensolaris.org/ > > has been updated to reflect the changes in snv_95 Thanks ... this update from 94-95 went quite well for me. :) Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ _

Re: [indiana-discuss] Name of Distro?

2008-09-05 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Indy to be successful in whatever form it takes because I think we can reach out to engage quite a large number of people in emerging markets. Some of the work is already going on in other projects, so we have a good opportunity to grow the project here. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.co

Re: [indiana-discuss] Interesting comments regarding Indiana and OpenSolaris vs Linux installation.

2008-09-05 Thread Jim Grisanzio
n to expose" these "weak points" "earlier this year" when in fact engineers have been working on this for quite some time. The install process is greatly improved from S10, and we as a community are going to improve it even more. Typical clueless media with a

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] Townhall meeting

2008-09-10 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Dennis Clarke wrote: > > Will there be consideration given to community based operations that are > not under the OpenSolaris umbrella and thus not inside Sun corporate? Tim was on the OGB call today talking about the Town Hall, and Glynn suggested that segment of the meeting could be for variou

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg.opensolaris.org package repository update (build 97)

2008-09-11 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The OpenSolaris development package repository > > http://pkg.opensolaris.org/ > > has been updated to reflect the changes in snv_97 including major fixes > to the Caiman "Slim Install" and the Image Packaging System (IPS). > Thanks, guys. Update was perfect (so

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg.opensolaris.org package repository update (build 98)

2008-09-18 Thread Jim Grisanzio
On 09/19/08 07:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The OpenSolaris development package repository > > http://pkg.opensolaris.org/ > > has been updated to reflect the changes in snv_98 Update 97->98 went perfectly ... Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ __

[indiana-discuss] Strange Behavior with Firefox

2008-09-28 Thread Jim Grisanzio
hey ... when I was in China last week I could not access many of my images on flickr with my laptop unless I was behind Sun's firewall. This, apparently, is well known with flickr in China. But now that I'm back in Japan I /still/ can't access them. It's almost as if my browser is stuck and thi

Re: [indiana-discuss] Strange Behavior with Firefox

2008-09-28 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Alfred Peng wrote: > Hi Jim, > > This seems to be weird. Could you logout flickr and re-login to have a > try? Tried it. Didn't work. > I'd guess one of the following options could solve the problem. > 1. Create a new profile. > Rich Lowe also suggested this, and I tried it and it worked. :)

Re: [indiana-discuss] Strange Behavior with Firefox

2008-09-29 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Ginn Chen wrote: > Clear everything in "Clear Private Data" dialog, quit Firefox > completely and restart. > It should work. > Nope. :) Tried it. Didn't work. The only thing that works is creating a new profile. Thanks for the suggestion, though. I'm learning more about FF. Jim -- http:

[indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Startup Bible in Japan

2008-10-24 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Nice to see OpenSolaris 2008.05 shipping in the back of new books in Japan: http://www.amazon.co.jp/OpenSolaris%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88%E3%82%A2%E3%83%83%E3%83%97%E3%83%90%E3%82%A4%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB-%E5%A4%A7%E6%B4%A5-%E7%9C%9F/dp/4839929769/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224839720&s

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Startup Bible in Japan

2008-10-24 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Masafumi Ohta wrote: > Jim were you there at the event?I was late at the event:( > I've read that,exactly so cool:)) > Yah, I was just there for a few minutes. Too tired to stay tonight. But nice to see the room completely full yet again. :) Jim ___ i

Re: [indiana-discuss] new osug landing page for ff links

2008-11-28 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Alfred Peng wrote: > jimgris wrote: >> hey ... >> >> I noticed that in the default Firefox links for OpenSolaris 2008.11 >> there is an OpenSolaris User Group pointer to the Advocacy Community: >> >> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/advocacy/ >> >> That's great. Thank you. But in the future, ra

Re: [indiana-discuss] [ogb-discuss] OpenSolaris TownHall - April 24th 8am-10am PT

2009-04-22 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Call details: http://wiki.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/OpenSolaris_Townhall_Apr_24_2009 On 04/13/09 01:50, Vincent Murphy wrote: All, It has been a while since the last Town Hall meeting, and a lot has gone on since then. We are planning the next Town Hall meeting for Friday April 24th from 8a

Re: [indiana-discuss] Toshiba Tecra M10, TPM, and OpenSOlaris b127

2009-11-26 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Che Kristo wrote: the demand might be there if they sold them outide of the US and UK :-| Especially for those little mini Netbooks. They are quite popular here in Asia, and since the OpenSolaris community is growing in Asia quite nicely that could prove interesting some day . Jim _

Re: [indiana-discuss] Toshiba Tecra M10, TPM, and OpenSOlaris b127

2009-11-26 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Gilles Gravier wrote: Hi gang! Just received a new Tecra M10 (by the way, I can't believe they still ship them to us with Windows XP). Did you order it from here? http://www.shopopensolaris.com/suntoshiba/home.htm That page says that only the mini NB200 ships with both OpenSolaris and Wind

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-announce] OpenSolaris package repository update, development build 128a, x86/x64/SPARC (12 new packages)

2009-12-09 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Shawn Walker wrote: pfexec beadm create OpenSolaris_129 pfexec beadm mount OpenSolaris_129 /mnt pfexec pkg -R /mnt install -v ent...@0.5.11,5.11-0.128 See if that updates the new BE with build 128. Also, please file a bug about this issue at defect.opensolaris.org under development -> pkg. h

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-announce] OpenSolaris package repository update, development build 128a, x86/x64/SPARC (12 new packages)

2009-12-10 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Shawn Walker wrote: No. What does "pkg list -av entire" say? jimg...@jg-opensolaris:~# pkg list -av entire FMRI STATE UFOXI pkg://dev/ent...@0.5.11,5.11-0.127:2009T131831Z installed - pkg://opensolaris.org/

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-announce] OpenSolaris package repository update, development build 128a, x86/x64/SPARC (12 new packages)

2009-12-10 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Shawn Walker wrote: It looks as though you still have opensolaris.org pointing at '/dev'. Try: pfexec pkg set-publisher -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev opensolaris.org Ok, got it. I did set-publisher wrong. :) Works now. Updated to 128a fine. Thanks. Jim _

Re: [indiana-discuss] [website-discuss] Proposal: Retire indiana-discuss

2010-08-26 Thread Jim Grisanzio
On 08/26/10 09:48, Mike Gerdts wrote: If there is objection to this proposal, I will be supportive those wishing to keep it alive and will seek someone to take over my moderation role. Mike ... this thread started on indiana-discuss and website-discuss, but it's no longer on website-discuss

Re: [indiana-discuss] [website-discuss] Proposal: Retire indiana-discuss

2010-08-30 Thread Jim Grisanzio
On 08/31/10 12:32, Mike Gerdts wrote: Web site admins: Please retire indiana-discuss while preserving the archives Ok, Mike. I'll take care of it. Thanks. Jim ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris