Re: [efloraofindia:63529] amit tree uid

2011-02-24 Thread Rashida Atthar
This could perhaps be Bishofia javanica, supossed to be growing along streams, sub-himalayan region. regards, Rashida. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:14 PM, amit chauhan amitci...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Sending photo of small tree, photo taken near water stream Pantnagar, Uttarakhand.

Re: [efloraofindia:63531] amit tree uid

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Chile
I agree with Rashida ji it is Bishofia javanica On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: This could perhaps be Bishofia javanica, supossed to be growing along streams, sub-himalayan region. regards, Rashida. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:14 PM, amit

Re: [efloraofindia:63532] Request for species id, DKV 230211-1

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Chile
Useful information by Shweta ji. This plant grows as weed in our locality in Rice fields. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Great information ! Sending my photographs of the same. Regards, Neil

[efloraofindia:63533] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread J.M. Garg
Is this attachment OK as a logo ? It maintains the original logo of Efloraofindia e-group. On 24 February 2011 10:16, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote: Vijayasankar ji has suggested that we should have a logo for Efloraofindia now. Logos are requested from everybody in this regard. It will

Re: [efloraofindia:63535] Kalatope id al230210

2011-02-24 Thread Alok Isabelle
I hope so too Tanay ji and Gurcharan ji, The problem is that I, especially, do not have any references/expertise to refer to (except the forum) and there are no images/data to refer on the internet either... so whatever data we are 100% about.. I'd like to put it on flowersofindia.. so that

Re: [efloraofindia:63536] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Chile
Garg ji it better if it continues with ur logo. As alternate one is my suggestion. The the attached one On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:59 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote: Is this attachment OK as a logo ? It maintains the original logo of Efloraofindia e-group. On 24 February 2011 10:16,

Re: [efloraofindia:63539] Bamboo

2011-02-24 Thread Anand Kumar Bhatt
mainly a garden plant, grown as a curiosity in our country. ak On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Even though Phyllostachya nigra [a native of China] is called Black Bamboo, the real Black Bamboo is Gigantochloa atroviolacea [a native of Java].

Re: [efloraofindia:63541] reqest for plant id

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Phadke
Oh That's amazing. We commonly observe *Bombax ceiba* in Red colour flowers. We had recently seen yellow coloured* Bombax ceiba* posted by Pravin ji and now you have shown here the white flowered variety of *Bombax ceiba.* Thanks for sharing. The conventional; so called safed Sawar; is a different

Re: [efloraofindia:63542] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Satish ji, How about this one. On 24 February 2011 14:34, Satish Chile chilesat...@gmail.com wrote: Garg ji it better if it continues with ur logo. As alternate one is my suggestion. The the attached one On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:59 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote: Is this

Fwd: [efloraofindia:63543] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread J.M. Garg
Forwarding pl. -- Forwarded message -- From: sheetal chaudhari sheetalbot...@gmail.com Date: 24 February 2011 16:34 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:63542] Re: Logo for efloraofindia To: J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com Dear Garg ji just a suggestion Can we use thisExploring floral

Re: [efloraofindia:63544] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Exploring floral diversity of India. Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:39 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding pl. -- Forwarded message -- From: sheetal chaudhari sheetalbot...@gmail.com Date: 24 February 2011 16:34 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:63542]

[efloraofindia:63547] Habenaria longicorniculata

2011-02-24 Thread manudev madhavan
Dear all, attaching the image of *Habenaria* *longicorniculata* J.Grahamhttp://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-95020 Please validate.. regards -- *Manudev K Madhavan* Junior Research Fellow Systematic Floristic Lab, Department of Botany, Centre for Postgraduate Studies Research St.

[efloraofindia:63548] Efloraofindia is official partner of SeasonWatch now

2011-02-24 Thread J.M. Garg
Dear members, Efloraofindia is official partner of SeasonWatch now. Members are requested to go through the SeasonWatch link below participate in the project to the maximum possible: http://www.seasonwatch.in/ More details were advised by Suhel ji in a separate mail as per link below:

Re: [efloraofindia:63549] ID request 230211SP02

2011-02-24 Thread tanay bose
Hi Satish Ji Parkia roxburghii G. Don (and Inga timoriana DC. (basionym), Parkia javanica auct.) is synonym of Parkia timoriana (DC.) Merr. Whereas, Parkia biglandulosa Wight Arn. (Syn: Parkia pedunculata J. F. Macbr.) Is completely a different plant. Regards Tanay On Wed, Feb 23,

Re: [efloraofindia:63550] amit tree uid

2011-02-24 Thread tanay bose
Please dont take other wise this plant is indeed *Bischofia javanica* **but everyone of you have a typo in the spelling. Tanay On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:43 AM, amit chauhan amitci...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks Rashida ji and Satish ji for the identification. It is Bishofia javanica !

Re: [efloraofindia:63551] reqest id mushrooms?

2011-02-24 Thread tanay bose
Kindly provide relevant informations !! Tanay On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:20 AM, manoj mghatge2...@gmail.com wrote: -- *Tanay Bose* Research Assistant Teaching Assistant. Department of Botany. University of British Columbia . 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone:

Re: [efloraofindia:63552] Rotula aquatica

2011-02-24 Thread tanay bose
Nice catch Manu Ji Tanay On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:30 AM, manudev madhavan manudevkmadha...@gmail.com wrote: *Dear all, * ** *attaching the photograph of Rotula aquatica Lour, Collected from Kannur, Kerala near Aralam Wildlife sanctuary* ** *Rotula aquatica* is a species of aromatic

Re: [efloraofindia:63553] Habenaria longicorniculata

2011-02-24 Thread tanay bose
nice catch Tanay On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:39 AM, manudev madhavan manudevkmadha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, attaching the image of *Habenaria* *longicorniculata* J.Grahamhttp://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-95020 Please validate.. regards -- *Manudev K Madhavan* Junior

Re: [efloraofindia:63554] Efloraofindia is official partner of SeasonWatch now

2011-02-24 Thread Mayur Nandikar
Thats great Garg ji Congratulations to all... On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:37 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote: Dear members, Efloraofindia is official partner of SeasonWatch now. Members are requested to go through the SeasonWatch link below participate in the project to the

Re: [efloraofindia:63555] Re: Small shrub/Climber for ID

2011-02-24 Thread renee vyas vyas
Thank you all for the ID, Regards, Renee On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:37 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Brunfelsia americana -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New

Re: [efloraofindia:63556] reqest for plant id

2011-02-24 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks for the nice pictures Manoj ji. Would like to add that these differences in colour is due to pollinator difference. The white ones would be most probably bat pollinated ! Also would like to inform that Bombax ceiba is now Salmalia rubra, would not know what the variation in white is called

Re: [efloraofindia:63558] Clematis to be identified

2011-02-24 Thread Rashida Atthar
Perhaps Clematis gouriana roxb. The achene (seed) as in your picture is supposed to be hairy, with long featherly tail ! Leaves seem to match. Just for info.- Your request id should read: 240211RV1 (date month year your initials and 1) The second request would read 240211RV2 and third would

Re: [efloraofindia:63559] Clematis to be identified

2011-02-24 Thread tanay bose
I appreciate your photo of the seed Clematis gouriana roxb i guess Tanay On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:25 AM, renee vyas vyas reneevy...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Friends, Please kindly identify this specie of Clematis, saw today in South Mumbai. Regards, Renee -- *Tanay Bose* Research

Re: [efloraofindia:63560] amit tree uid

2011-02-24 Thread Rashida Atthar
Sorry for the typo. and thanks Tanay. Let me add some more info. now that Amit ji has confirmed the tree. Bischofia javanica is in honour of G.W. Bischoff, a professor at Heidelberg in the early 19th century; javanica-Java, referring to its place of origin. Commonly called Bishop wood tree, Java

Re: [efloraofindia:63561] Clematis to be identified

2011-02-24 Thread renee vyas vyas
Dear Rashida, Thank you very much I will post the request accordingly. Regards, Renee On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Perhaps Clematis gouriana roxb. The achene (seed) as in your picture is supposed to be hairy, with long featherly tail !

Re: [efloraofindia:63562] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Na Bha
I like Exploring floral diversity of India. In this case a collage of flowers instead of just one may look appropriate. Nalini - Original Message - From: Pankaj Oudhia To: efloraofindia Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:63544] Re: Logo for

Re: [efloraofindia:63564] Wildflower for identification

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Phadke
This one appears to be *Capparis rheedii*. Dr Phadke On 24 February 2011 20:22, C. Susanth c.susa...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends Here I attached the image of a wildflower I taken from Shendurnty wildlife sanctuary druing my recent trip.The flower was seen in the secondory growth of

Re: [efloraofindia:63566] amit tree uid

2011-02-24 Thread tanay bose
Thanks Rashida Ji I was not aware of these !! Tanay On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry for the typo. and thanks Tanay. Let me add some more info. now that Amit ji has confirmed the tree. Bischofia javanica is in honour of G.W. Bischoff, a

Re: [efloraofindia:63567] Wildflower for identification

2011-02-24 Thread tanay bose
I also think *Capparis rheedii* Tanay On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote: This one appears to be *Capparis rheedii*. Dr Phadke On 24 February 2011 20:22, C. Susanth c.susa...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends Here I attached the image of a wildflower I

Re: [efloraofindia:63568] Wildflower for identification

2011-02-24 Thread C. Susanth
Dear All, Now my friend told me this plant is Caparis rheedi an endemic and threatened plant to Western Ghats.Nowadays this plant commonly seen in Vazhachal Reserve forests.I observed this plant at Palaruvi forests and Shendurney Wildlife sanctuary too. Thanx Mr.Satish Phakadke,Mr.Mani kandan and

Re: [efloraofindia:63568] Wildflower for identification

2011-02-24 Thread C. Susanth
One more thing the Local malayalam name of this plant is Kareeram with warm regards susanth On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:01 PM, C. Susanth c.susa...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Now my friend told me this plant is Caparis rheedi an endemic and threatened plant to Western Ghats.Nowadays this plant

Re: [efloraofindia:63569] Wildflower for identification

2011-02-24 Thread Bhatt Sweta
Location - Jeeja Mata Udhyan Is this the same species?! Kindly confirm. Regards, Shweta On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:02 PM, C. Susanth c.susa...@gmail.com wrote: One more thing the Local malayalam name of this plant is Kareeram with warm regards susanth On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:01 PM, C.

Re: [efloraofindia:63571] Wildflower for identification

2011-02-24 Thread hari lal
i think also it is same hari shankar lal On 2/24/11, Bhatt Sweta bhattsw...@gmail.com wrote: sorry forgot the attachment. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bhatt Sweta bhattsw...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:63568] Wildflower for

Re: [efloraofindia:63575] Re: Small tree for ID

2011-02-24 Thread hari lal
Solanum torvum common call kathbaigan hari shankar lal On 2/24/11, shrikant ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.com wrote: Yes it is Solanum torvum. Regards, Shrikant On Feb 23, 10:44 pm, renee vyas vyas reneevy...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Found this plant in a medicinal garden of Western

Re: [efloraofindia:63577] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Vijayasankar
I personally feel that the logo should represent our country and its floral wealth. Since Lotus is our national flower and indigenous in the country and also considered sacred and part of our tradition, i feel that it will be a better choice. If possible we may include India map (a small outline

[efloraofindia:63575] Re: reqest id mushrooms?

2011-02-24 Thread Alok
Dear Manoj ji, forgot to tell you, the second one (DSC05086.JPG) looks like 'Coprinus', could be C. comatus but one would need to have more data and microscopic analysis of spores to be absolutely sure... regards Alok On Feb 24, 2:20 pm, manoj mghatge2...@gmail.com wrote:  DSC05087.JPG

[efloraofindia:63574] Re: reqest id mushrooms?

2011-02-24 Thread Alok
Monoj ji, If possible take a photograph of the gills (underside) of the mushroom (close up of stem and where it attaches to the gills and roots, gills) and if you take the spore print by keeping the head of the mushroom on a paper, and tell us the color it would be most helpful. Usually these are

Fwd: [efloraofindia:63579] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Vijayasankar
Forwarding Sweta ji's response: -- Forwarded message -- From: Bhatt Sweta bhattsw...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:63577] Re: Logo for efloraofindia To: Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com I was too thinking that it would be nice to

Re: [efloraofindia:63580] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Vijayasankar
I think the 'e' (electronic) is always written in small letter. so can it be like this? *e*-Flora of India or *e*-Flora India i hope some of us would come up with a better suggestion and design. (but i am not for collage and too many flowers in the logo, as the logo will always be small in size.

Re: [efloraofindia:63581] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Instead of map we may also think of highlighting the tri-colour. I have something in my mind. Will see if I can implement it on a paper to share but could do only after a few days when I return back to Dehradun. Still at Gangto, leaving for Delhi tomorrow. Pankaj On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:21

Re: [efloraofindia:63582] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Dinesh Valke
Dear friends ... a logo by definition, should be easy enough to get translated to line-art and yet display all the elements in it. With art now done easily in many of the computer applications, the meaning of logo has diluted. It should be possible that a logo can be minted, sculpted, crafted,

Re: [efloraofindia:63583] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Dinesh Valke
... by the way dear friends, ... did not mean to discourage entries of logos. My own choice of logo flouts many principles of logo design. Have attached 4 different sizes of my art to convey one point: the loss of details increases with the decreasing size of logo. The smallest size

Re: [efloraofindia:63584] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Padmini Raghavan
When the title iseflora of india there is no need to repeat the words flora of india just below it. The next line could simply say, Discussions. My suggestion is that brevity is more effective in a caption. Regards, Padmini Raghavan.

[efloraofindia:63585] Re: Invitation to view Shashi's Picasa Web Album - Manchanabele dam

2011-02-24 Thread Anand Kumar Bhatt
sorry, I never made this recommendation. Also I do not write my name aas Anand Kumar. I always add Bhatt. Anyway the album is good. ak On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Anand Kumar anandkbh...@gmail.com wrote: You are invited to view Shashi's photo album: Manchanabele

Re: [efloraofindia:63587] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Using Nelumbo is good idea but it is used very commonly. I have some different idea. We all know that Dr.Sahani of our group has discovered new Orchid. Lets put the flowers of this orchid as logo so that the world can know that genius like him are part of this group. And add quote from Sanskrit

Re: [efloraofindia:63590] Gustavia gracillima

2011-02-24 Thread tanay bose
Nice catch Sweta Ji Thanks for sharing the photos tanay On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Bhatt Sweta bhattsw...@gmail.com wrote: *Gustavia gracillima/gracillipis * Family: Lecythidaceae Heaven Lotus, Narrow-Leaved Gustavia Origin: Colombia A small to medium size tree with beautiful thin

[efloraofindia:63592] Re: Wildflower for identification

2011-02-24 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
Plant posted here grows near streams in evergreen forests in western ghats, it possibly can not grow in a garden in Mumbai. There are several differences in the 2 plants besides just one similarity in a colour patch on petals. This was discussed at length only recently. Regards, Shrikant On Feb

[efloraofindia:63596] Re: Gustavia gracillima

2011-02-24 Thread Mahadeswara
Yes it is Gustavia species. One tree is available in Theosophical society campus, Chennai. On Feb 24, 10:07 pm, Bhatt Sweta bhattsw...@gmail.com wrote:   *Gustavia gracillima/gracillipis * Family: Lecythidaceae Heaven Lotus, Narrow-Leaved Gustavia Origin: Colombia A small to medium size

Re: [efloraofindia:63598] Code of conduct for members

2011-02-24 Thread Yazdy Palia
I accept it sir. Thank you Regards Yazdy Palia On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:46 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote: Code of conduct for moderators is available at https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/about-us/moderators/code-of-conduct-for-moderators I have framed Code of conduct for

Re: [efloraofindia:63599] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Personally I feel the originality of our group should not be changed/diluted. The original logo is fine enough and is we want to highlight its Indian scope we can think of enclosing the original logo within the map of India. Lotus gives a good feeling of Indian links, but I feel it is part of

Re: [efloraofindia:63600] Code of conduct for members

2011-02-24 Thread J.M. Garg
It is now available at https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/miscellanea/for-members-information/code-of-conduct-for-members On 25 February 2011 12:16, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: I accept it sir. Thank you Regards Yazdy Palia On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:46 PM, J.M. Garg

Re: [efloraofindia:63601] Re: reqest id mushrooms?

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Chile
Second one looks like Coprinus comatus. The first also may be Coprinus sp. with some doubt. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Alok alokisabe...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Manoj ji, forgot to tell you, the second one (DSC05086.JPG) looks like 'Coprinus', could be C. comatus but one would need to

Re: [efloraofindia:63602] amit tree uid

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Chile
Great information Rashida ji. Thanks Tanay ji for pointing out the mistakes. On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:41 AM, amit chauhan amitci...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Thanks Tanay ji for correcting us and thanks Rashida ji for the valuable information regards On 2/24/11, tanay bose

Re: [efloraofindia:63603] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Chile
Lot of confusion ! I also agree with Gurcharan ji. On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Personally I feel the originality of our group should not be changed/diluted. The original logo is fine enough and is we want to highlight its Indian scope we can

Re: [efloraofindia:63604] UID 250211 AC1

2011-02-24 Thread Rashida Atthar
Thanks for one more unusual tree pictures from you. I happened to see Ficus rubescens vahl fruiting at Sawantwadi, Mah.in Sep.'10, The young tree has more elliptic auricular leaves and greenish unripe fruits . You may have a look in the database. I think your tree is perhaps Ficus rubescens vahl.

Re: [efloraofindia:63605] UID 250211 AC1

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Chile
Yes this is Ficus rubescens. On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for one more unusual tree pictures from you. I happened to see Ficus rubescens vahl fruiting at Sawantwadi, Mah.in Sep.'10, The young tree has more elliptic auricular leaves

Re: [efloraofindia:63606] ID request 230211SP02

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Chile
Thanks Tanaj ji for information.. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:08 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Satish Ji Parkia roxburghii G. Don (and Inga timoriana DC. (basionym), Parkia javanica auct.) is synonym of Parkia timoriana (DC.) Merr. Whereas, Parkia biglandulosa Wight Arn.

Re: [efloraofindia:63607] Request for ID : 300111 : AK-3

2011-02-24 Thread Satish Chile
This is *Quisqualis indica* (Rangoon Creeper Vine, Drunken Sailor, Scarlet Ragoon, Chinese Honeysuckle) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Resurfacing again for ID Earlier feedback Pankaj jiseems like

Re: [efloraofindia:63610] Re: Wildflower for identification

2011-02-24 Thread Mayur Nandikar
Hello As per my concern if the plant with axillary, solitary or rarely 2 to three flowers then it's... *Capparis heyneana* Wall. ex Wight Arn. Prodromus Florae Peninsulae Indiae Orientalis 25. 1834. or Flowers strictly solitary then it might be... *Capparis

Re: [efloraofindia:63612] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread C. Susanth
in my personal opinion is avoid Lotus.. It has already use in everywhere..especially one political party also adapt it as it's sympol so use simple native flowers and a simple logo...one line is gud.. with warm regards On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Satish Chile chilesat...@gmail.comwrote:

[efloraofindia:63613] Re: Clematis to be identified

2011-02-24 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
This would be Clematis flammula L., native of southern Europe and northern Africa. The horticultural variety is usually not C. gouriana which has dentate leaves and is found in evergreen forests of western ghats. The orange achenes indicate C.flammula L. Regards, Shrikant On Feb 24, 6:25 pm,

Re: [efloraofindia:63614] Re: Logo for efloraofindia

2011-02-24 Thread C. Susanth
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:17 PM, C. Susanth c.susa...@gmail.com wrote: in my personal opinion is avoid Lotus.. It has already use in everywhere..especially one political party also adapt it as it's sympol so use simple native flowers and a simple logo...one line is gud.. with warm regards