Re: CVS setup

2003-07-14 Thread Larry Jones
"Gurpreet Singh (SCM)" writes: > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Please do not send MIME and/or HTML encrypted messages to the list. Plain text only, PLEASE! > I just installed RH Linux 7.0

Re: CVS setup

2001-04-05 Thread Rob Helmer
Don't check files or directories that have spaces in the names into CVS. It'll cause nothing but trouble. Go into the repository and replace all the spaces with underscores ( _ ) or something, and do a fresh checkout. That should fix it. HTH, Rob Helmer Namodn On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 01:10:5

Re: CVS setup

2001-04-05 Thread David H. Thornley
Rob Helmer wrote: > > Don't check files or directories that have spaces in the names > into CVS. It'll cause nothing but trouble. > I was just asked a question about InstallShield. I'm not personally familiar with what it does, but apparently it creates a set of files of which many have space

Re: CVS setup

2001-04-05 Thread Rob Helmer
Hi David, Maybe you can use a commitinfo script to do this. I'm not really sure, I know people use them to strip CRs from files, I imagine you could automatically remove spaces like this somehow. Perhaps you could automatically convert them back on checkout. I'm not sure how this part would be

RE: CVS setup

2001-04-05 Thread Jerry Nairn
My previous employer uses cvs and WinCVS with files with spaces in their names. cvs itself has only a couple of bugs, maybe even fixed in the latest release, with handling files with spaces in them. I remember that top level directories, and module names, should not have spaces in them. And you ca

RE: CVS setup

2001-04-05 Thread Anders Truelsen
etting slightly worried by now :-/ regards /anders > -Original Message- > From: David H. Thornley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 5. april 2001 19:55 > To: Rob Helmer > Cc: M Birch; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CVS setup > > > > > Rob Helmer wrote: >

Re: CVS setup

2001-04-06 Thread Larry Jones
Anders Truelsen writes: > > I've been using CVS to control out install shield setups with spaces and all > for a couple of years now and I've never experienced any problems. > Just yesterday I created a bunch of modules with with spaces in their names > and it seemed to work just fine, though I'm

RE: CVS setup

2001-04-06 Thread Jerry Nairn
Also worth mentioning in this thread is the fact that most of the files generated by InstallShield and the associated tool, Package for the Web, are ordinary text. Jerry ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/in

Re: CVS setup

2001-04-06 Thread David H. Thornley
Jerry Nairn wrote: > > Also worth mentioning in this thread is the fact that most of the files > generated by InstallShield and the associated tool, Package for the Web, are > ordinary text. > Jerry Yes, that's what I was told, and that's one thing that makes me unwilling to zip everything up

Re: CVS setup

2001-04-06 Thread Laine Stump
Jerry Nairn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Also worth mentioning in this thread is the fact that most of the files > generated by InstallShield and the associated tool, Package for the Web, are > ordinary text. Yes, the unfortunate part is that InstallShield insists on using long names with embed

Re: CVS setup

2001-04-06 Thread Larry Jones
Laine Stump writes: > > Yes, the unfortunate part is that InstallShield insists on using long > names with embedded spaces for directories and files, which leads to > odd inconveniences occasionally (eg, cvs -n update doesn't work > properly, What goes wrong? > you can't use "find . -print | x

Re: CVS setup

2001-04-06 Thread Laine Stump
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Jones) writes: > Laine Stump writes: > > > > Yes, the unfortunate part is that InstallShield insists on using long > > names with embedded spaces for directories and files, which leads to > > odd inconveniences occasionally (eg, cvs -n update doesn't work > > properly,

Re: CVS setup

2001-04-06 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 03:00:37PM -0400, Larry Jones wrote: > You can if you have the GNU versions of find and xargs: > > find . -print0 | xargs -0 ... > > (Actually, all you need is GNU xargs: > > find . -print | tr '\n' '\0' | xargs -0 ... Well, GNU's find and xargs are distribu

Re: CVS setup

2001-04-06 Thread Larry Jones
Eric Siegerman writes: > > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 03:00:37PM -0400, Larry Jones wrote: > > > > (Actually, all you need is GNU xargs: > > > > find . -print | tr '\n' '\0' | xargs -0 ... > > Well, GNU's find and xargs are distributed in the same package > (findutils), so this shouldn't be t

RE: CVS setup

2001-05-02 Thread Mark Hewitt
- From: David H. Thornley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 April 2001 18:55 To: Rob Helmer Cc: M Birch; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CVS setup Rob Helmer wrote: > > Don't check files or directories that have spaces in the names > into CVS. It'll cause nothing but trouble. &g

Re: CVS setup

2001-05-02 Thread Rob Helmer
> -Original Message- > From: David H. Thornley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 05 April 2001 18:55 > To: Rob Helmer > Cc: M Birch; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CVS setup > > > > > Rob Helmer wrote: > > > > Don't check files or d

RE: CVS setup

2001-05-17 Thread Echlin, Michael
this myself. Use a scratch monkey. Mike. -Original Message- From: David H. Thornley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: April 5, 2001 1:55 PM To: Rob Helmer Cc: M Birch; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CVS setup Rob Helmer wrote: > > Don't check files or directories that hav

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-26 Thread Larry Jones
Rohit Peyyeti writes: > > Is there any better way to set this up? Also, I need read > only access to certain project directories for some of the > users. How is that possible? Set the permissions on the repository directories so that read-only users have read permission but not write permission.

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-27 Thread Rohit Peyyeti
]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:15 AM Subject: Re: CVS setup help > Rohit Peyyeti writes: > > > > Thanks Larry, but I am having problems > > getting Read-Only access in CVS using > > pserver. > > > > I created user called 'rohit' in system &g

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-27 Thread Larry Jones
Rohit Peyyeti writes: > > rohit = system user > readroh = cvs user > > I changed $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/passwd file. This is how > it has right now: > > $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/passwd : > readroh::rohit > > $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/readers : > readroh > > In .bash_profile : > CVSROOT=":pserver:rohit@server:/usr/l

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-28 Thread Rohit Peyyeti
ver which has my cvs-repository. ...Rohit - Original Message - From: "Larry Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "CVS Mailing Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: Re: CVS setup help > Rohit

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-28 Thread Larry Jones
Rohit Peyyeti writes: > > (Logging in to readroh@server) > CVS password: > Fatal error, aborting. > readroh: no such user > cvs login: authorization failed: server rejected access Please do not summarize or truncate error messages when you report them -- there are a number of similar messages a

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-28 Thread Rohit Peyyeti
Sorry, forgot the version information: Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.10.8 (client/server) ...Rohit - Original Message - From: "Larry Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:13 PM

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-28 Thread Larry Jones
Rohit Peyyeti writes: > > And I am not editing $CVSROOT/CVSROOT/passwd > file directly in the repository directory. I first checkout the > file and then edit it before committing. That's almost certainly your problem -- unless you've added passwd to the checkoutlist file, you don't actually hav

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-28 Thread Larry Jones
Rohit Peyyeti writes: > > Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.10.8 (client/server) That's pretty old. If you upgrade to the current release (1.11.1p1), which you can get from www.cvshome.org, you'll get better error messages and a whole lot of bug fixes. -Larry Jones You're just trying to get

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-28 Thread Rohit Peyyeti
it Peyyeti - Original Message - From: "Larry Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:13 PM Subject: Re: CVS setup help | Rohit Peyyeti writes: | > | > (Logging in to readroh@server) | > CVS p

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-28 Thread Rohit Peyyeti
t does not work. The readers file contains just one line: readroh. And for sure I gave new line at the end. Regards, Rohit Peyyeti - Original Message - From: "Larry Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, Janua

Re: CVS setup help

2002-01-30 Thread Rohit Peyyeti
Thanks Larry. Thank you very much. Works according to how I thought it should work. Regards, Rohit Peyyeti - Original Message - From: "Larry Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:28 PM

Re: cvs setup help

2000-07-05 Thread Mike
Sounds like the path listed in etc/profile or in CVSROOT/modules may be pointing to the wrong place. Both need to point to the modules folder itself. For exact syntax, see: http://www.michael-amorose.com/cvs/ Michael C. Amorose Author FireUtils for Macintosh Author Sound Core for Macintosh Aut

Re: cvs setup help

2000-07-05 Thread Matthias Kranz
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 09:07:55AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm new to this group, and have just started using CVS i think its a great > program, and have been impressed with it. Everything has been working > great with it until i tried setting another computer up, it worked fine the > f

Re: CVS Setup Help Needed

2001-06-22 Thread Larry Jones
Matt Keyes writes: > > I'm running Slackware, I installed the latest CVS, and went through setting > it up. I set up the port as per the docs, and configured inetd.conf with > the following: > > cvs -f -allow-root=/cvsroot pserver > > /cvsroot is a partition I have that will be dedicated

RE: CVS Setup Help Needed

2001-06-22 Thread Matt Keyes
ply b/c this is the first time I've tried to setup/use CVS. Thanks for any help! Matt -Original Message- From: Larry Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:36 AM To: Matt Keyes Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CVS Setup Help Needed Matt Keyes writes: >

Re: CVS Setup Help Needed

2001-06-22 Thread Larry Jones
Matt Keyes writes: > > 1. I set $CVSROOT to be /cvsroot That's not correct if you want to use pserver. You should set it to something like: :pserver:user@host:/cvsroot > 2. I did initialize the repository, so there is a /cvsroot/CVSROOT directory > (with all the subdirectories under i

RE: CVS Setup Help Needed

2001-06-22 Thread Matt Keyes
:47 PM To: Matt Keyes Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CVS Setup Help Needed Matt Keyes writes: > > 1. I set $CVSROOT to be /cvsroot That's not correct if you want to use pserver. You should set it to something like: :pserver:user@host:/cvsroot > 2. I did initialize t

Re: CVS Setup Help Needed

2001-06-22 Thread Larry Jones
Matt Keyes writes: > > >Then how did you initialize the repository? :-) > cvs -d /cvsroot init Then you used CVS in local mode. That's why the smiley. > I suspect my main problem is with the $CVSROOT. Does the user in > :pserver:user@host:/cvsroot need to be each username that will access the

Re: CVS Setup Help Needed

2001-06-22 Thread Schwenk, Jeanie
I need more information to really be able to help but I'll give it a good shot. Did you do a cvs init? Verify that cvs commands work from the node where cvs is installed? The inetd.conf doesn't look correct. Mine looks like this: cvs stream tcp nowait root /opt/cvs/bin/cvs cvs -f --a

Re: CVS Setup Help Needed

2001-06-23 Thread Peter Ajamian
Matt Keyes wrote: > > On the same note (but a little OT), how can I cut and paste from vi (I want > to cut the encrypted password from /etc/passwd and put it in the cvspasswd > file (whatever its called... I'm not at home so I can't look at it)? That depends on the interface or client you use to

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-18 Thread Bryon Lape
How does one use the reserved locks? Jerzy Kaczorowski wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Sander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > There's Noel Yap's patches on SourceForge, which apply to a down-rev > release > > of CVS. I believe that others have implemented it as well, but only > p

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-18 Thread yap_noel
I sent out instructions within the several threads about this. I guess you missed it 'cos you were too busy ranting. Please check the archives. Noel How does one use the reserved locks? Jerzy Kaczorowski wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Sander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > T

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-29 Thread Greg Cooper
David Masterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > > Andrew writes: > > > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix > > (Solaris)? Or is there any documentation on this other than the > > manual that comes with the source code? > > Gi

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-29 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Cooper wrote: >David Masterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... >> > Andrew writes: >> >> > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix >> > (Solaris)? Or is there any documentation on this other tha

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-29 Thread David Gravereaux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku) wrote: >Tell the manager to shed his or her superstitions, and work with >the facts. The facts are: > >- Concurrent development works just fine. >- Your team already likes it. >- Strict locking does not prevent concurrency, it only reduces > it to a coarse granula

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-29 Thread Kathryn Huxtable
"Kaz Kylheku" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message UClD7.130841$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:UClD7.130841$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Cooper wrote: > >David Masterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > >> > Andrew writes: > >> > >> >

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-30 Thread yap_noel
No, it is not. I think you need to figure out why the manager doesn't want to use concurrent development models especially if the advisory locks patch is installed to better control the process. Noel David Masterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > > Andre

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-30 Thread yap_noel
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku) wrote: > >>Tell the manager to shed his or her superstitions, and work with >>the facts. The facts are: >> >>- Concurrent development works just fine. >>- Your team already likes it. >>- Strict locking does not prevent concurrency, it only reduces >> it to a co

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-30 Thread David Masterson
> Kaz Kylheku writes: [...with respect to CVS...] > Tell the manager to shed his or her superstitions, and work with the > facts. The facts are: > - Concurrent development works just fine. > - Your team already likes it. > - Strict locking does not prevent concurrency, it only reduces > i

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-30 Thread yap_noel
A huge portion of Streamed Lines deals with branches. Now, consider that unreserved checkouts are sort of like (if not exactly) virtual branches... IOW, if the manager is _really_ against concurrent development, then he/she should be against any version control tool that allows branches as well

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-10 Thread Matthias Kranz
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 01:18:55AM -0700, Andrew wrote: > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix > (Solaris)? Or is there any documentation on this other than the manual > that comes with the source code? Try http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/ for a very good book about CVS. P

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-10 Thread yap_noel
The most you could hope for in CVS is to install a patch that allows advisory locks -- reserved locks are counter to the purpose of CVS. You can find a version of the patch (I think against cvs-1.11.1) at SourceForge under project RCVS. Once the patch is installed, tell the users that they must

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-10 Thread David Masterson
> Andrew writes: > Has anyone setup reserved checkout in CVS (ver 1.11.1p1) in Unix > (Solaris)? Or is there any documentation on this other than the > manual that comes with the source code? Given the CVS model of unreserved checkouts, why do you need reserved checkouts? Also, are you tal

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
Yeah, file locking is really unproductive. I just love wasting all that time tryin' to figure out why the merge didn't happen and do it all by hand. My boss really likes all the extra cost too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The most you could hope for in CVS is to install a patch that allows > ad

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
The RCVS part on source forge seems to be dead. Is anyone really developing locking for CVS? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The most you could hope for in CVS is to install a patch that allows > advisory locks -- reserved locks are counter to the purpose of CVS. You > can find a version of the pat

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Paul Sander
If your question really is: "Is anyone modifying CVS to support locking?" Then I believe the answer is "yes". If your question really is: "Is anyone making locking a mainstream feature of CVS?" Then I believe the answer is "no". Despite the outcry to have this capability, no one with commit a

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread yap_noel
The patches are there for anyone to use. Last I heard, all that's stopping them from being included with the standard distribution are the lack of test and doc patches. You're welcome to work on them. Welcome to the world of open source. Noel The RCVS part on source forge seems to be dead.

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
Paul Sander wrote: > If your question really is: "Is anyone modifying CVS to support locking?" > Then I believe the answer is "yes". Who? And where may I get it? > > If your question really is: "Is anyone making locking a mainstream feature > of CVS?" Then I believe the answer is "no". sha

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
No link to any files produces anything. One cannot download a patch that is not there. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The patches are there for anyone to use. Last I heard, all that's stopping > them from being included with the standard distribution are the lack of > test and doc patches. You're

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread yap_noel
>> If your question really is: "Is anyone making locking a mainstream feature >> of CVS?" Then I believe the answer is "no". > >shame I think getting real reserved locks into CVS is impossible without chainging CVS so much as to make it not CVS anymore. Of course, you're welcome to try. Noe

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 02:17:41 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > Paul Sander wrote: > > > If your question really is: "Is anyone making locking a mainstream feature > > of CVS?" Then I believe the answer is

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Paul Sander
There's Noel Yap's patches on SourceForge, which apply to a down-rev release of CVS. I believe that others have implemented it as well, but only privately in their own shops. Maybe they don't advertise them for fear of being blasted by Greg. --- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Sande

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/10/2001 at 23:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Read Berliner's whole paper. Understand what it means to "force" >developers to use a "parallel" development paradigm and learn what the >benefits are. I understand it, there aren't any. ---

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
Wo? Ich kann nicht es gefunden. Paul Sander wrote: > There's Noel Yap's patches on SourceForge, which apply to a down-rev release > of CVS. I believe that others have implemented it as well, but only privately > in their own shops. Maybe they don't advertise them for fear of being blasted > b

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Bryon Lape
"Greg A. Woods" wrote: > Read Berliner's whole paper. Understand what it means to "force" > developers to use a "parallel" development paradigm and learn what the > benefits are. The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, that would be helpful, protective AND productive. With

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bryon Lape wrote: >"Greg A. Woods" wrote: > >> Read Berliner's whole paper. Understand what it means to "force" >> developers to use a "parallel" development paradigm and learn what the >> benefits are. > >The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-11 Thread Paul Sander
Ich funde es bei http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=422733&group_id=4680&atid=304680 >--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Wo? Ich kann nicht es gefunden. >Paul Sander wrote: >> There's Noel Yap's patches on SourceForge, which apply to a down-rev release >> of CVS

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
Kaz Kylheku wrote: > CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update > operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically > incorporated into your working copy. Only when a conflict arises do > you have to do resolution by hand. Conflicts tend to occur rarely, and >

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
Netscape tries and tries, but nothing is ever returned by this link. Paul Sander wrote: Ich funde es bei http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=422733&group_id=4680&atid=304680 >--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Wo?  Ich kann nicht es gefunden. >Paul Sander wrote: >> Th

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
It sounds like the software your group is maintaining needs factoring to decrease the likelihood that several developers are modifying the same method. It also sounds like your group can use some communication. Noel "Greg A. Woods" wrote: > Read Berliner's whole paper. Understand what it mea

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Mark
--- Bryon Lape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kaz Kylheku wrote: > > > CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update > > operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically > > incorporated into your working copy. Only when a conflict arises do > > you have to do res

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
If you've really made up your mind then don't use CVS. But think about this first: Why are you the only group I know who has tried parallel development and didn't like it? Noel *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/10/2001 at 23:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Read Berliner's whole

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
>> Conflicts are extremely easy to produce and may not be easily resolved. > >The issue it seems you are having is that on a regular basis, two or more >developers making large abouts of unrelated changes to same sections of code. >This problem cannot be solved by locking checkouts, or by any ch

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so many conflicts while so many other groups (thousands?) are not. Noel Kaz Kylheku wrote: > CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update > operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically > incorporated

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread yap_noel
I was able to use Netscape get to the patches. Exactly what are you doing? Noel Netscape tries and tries, but nothing is ever returned by this link. Paul Sander wrote: Ich funde es bei http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=422733&group_id=4680&atid=304680

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Mark A. Flacy
Your reply, as written, contradicts itself. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Mark A. Flacy
Conflicts are easy to produce *when you have multiple developers working on the same segments of code*. If you are doing a lot of that without any coordination between the developers, you are going to have a lot of problems. Period. ___ Info-cvs mai

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: Bryon Lape [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, > that would be helpful, > protective AND productive. Without some sort of locking, > having developers waste > time with doing merging by hand is count

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 00:06:34 (-0400), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 11/10/2001 at 23:03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Read Berliner's whole paper.

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 04:05:42 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, that would be helpful, > protective AND productive. Without some sort of locking, having developers waste

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 11:22:37 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] > Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > Conflicts are extremely easy to produce and may not be easily resolved. Hmmm. and how is this different from any other change control process? In non-parallel

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:35:58 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > > What do you mean by "method locking"? Locking individual parts > of a file? It wouldn't do you any good. Well, not with CVS anywa

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Gianni Mariani
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg A. Woods Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 9:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: CVS-II Discussion Mailing List Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout [ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 00:06:34 (-0400), Bryon Lape wrote: ] >

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:51:54 (-0700), Gianni Mariani wrote: ] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > There is a case where Greg would agree with you and that's in the case of > binary files or files that can't be merged automagically - like jpegs or &

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg A. Woods wrote: >Even locking without lock contention won't solve all conflict >scenarios. Commit wars are possible with any change control process. Even if you lock an entire repository, you can still get conflicts; conflicts outside of the system. Suppose

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bryon Lape wrote: >Kaz Kylheku wrote: > >> CVS doesn't require hand merging. When you perform a cvs update >> operation, then new changes in the repository are automatically >> incorporated into your working copy. Only when a conflict arises do >> you have to do re

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 11:46 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > > [ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:35:58 (-0500), Thornley, > Dav

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
I got there by going to http://sourceforge.net/ and typing "rcvs" in the search field. That produced a table of about a dozen patches, one of which had a suitable one-description. I clicked on that, then on the "download" button. >--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Netscape tries and t

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so many conflicts >while so many other groups (thousands?) are not. Because there is no group, and there are no conflicts. This is just another Chicken Little yelling that the sky

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
One would hope that one's shop is not using the same branch for both maintenance and new features. That kind of thing is best done on separate branches (where the two schedules don't interfere with each other). The bug fix is later merged into the new development when it's appropriate to do so.

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 04:05:42 (GMT), Bryon Lape wrote: ] >> Subject: Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout >> >> The benefits add up to zero. Now, if it did method locking, that would be helpful, >> protective

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
>--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] >3 developers (A,B,C) need to fix file X. >A is making some major changes, adding lots of new functionality. >B and C need to make a minor tweak to the file. >In a CVS model: >B anc C can be done and outa there in minutes and essentially forget about >

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Sander
TED] >[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 09:35:58 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] >> Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout >> >> >> What do you mean by "method locking"? Locking individual parts >> of a file? It wouldn't do you any good. >W

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 1:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > > One would hope that one's shop is not u

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Kaz Kylheku
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Sander wrote: >Under those conditions, almost any version control tool provides the >necessary merge tool. Your inexperience is showing. There are version control tools in *broad* use that have extremely support for branching and merging. Exhibit A: Visual Sou

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, October 12, 2001 at 15:45:15 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] > Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout > > The last job I had not involving the use of CVS was with SCCS, > and we didn't have branches. This did make shipping bug-fixed > stuff to customers int

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
Wrong. Kaz Kylheku wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so many conflicts > >while so many other groups (thousands?) are not. > > Because there is no group, and there are no conflicts. This is just > a

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-12 Thread Bryon Lape
I simply clicked on the link you supplied.  I even copied it to IE just to make sure Nutscraper wasn't having a problem. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was able to use Netscape get to the patches.  Exactly what are you doing? Noel Netscape tries and tries, but nothing is ever returned by this link. P

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-15 Thread yap_noel
Because there is no group, and there are no conflicts. This is just another Chicken Little yelling that the sky is falling. Actually a step beneath Chicken Little, because something actually did fall on Chicken Little's head, it wasn't just pure imagination. :) Yes, I was giving him the benefi

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-15 Thread yap_noel
>In the end, productivity is probably the same in either method. Developers >spend a lot of time getting coffee every day while their automatic merges >complete, or they slave away for hours resolving conflicts once every couple >of weeks. But perception is everything here; letting the automati

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-15 Thread yap_noel
2, 2001 at 09:35:58 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] >> Subject: RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout >> >> >> What do you mean by "method locking"? Locking individual parts >> of a file? It wouldn't do you any good. >Well, not with CVS anyway! :-)

Re: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-15 Thread yap_noel
OK, then exactly what are you expecting from the link? Maybe SourceForge was down when you tried it? Have you tried it again? Have you tried following the step-by-step instructions I sent out? Noel I simply clicked on the link you supplied. I even copied it to IE just to make sure Nutscrape

RE: CVS - setup reserved checkout

2001-10-15 Thread Thornley, David
> -Original Message- > From: Bryon Lape [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Wrong. > > Kaz Kylheku wrote: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >You need to ask yourself why your group is experiencing so > many conflicts > > >while so many other grou

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