Re: [New CVS user] Best config?

2000-05-15 Thread Eric Siegerman
"command=" option doesn't suffer similar weaknesses. - Frodo, having lost a finger to his famous adventure with a magic ring, will want nothing whatsoever to do with your $@*!# magic key :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.

Re: CVSROOT/passwd enhancements

2000-05-24 Thread Eric Siegerman
impossible password. > Which is why this is safe. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo

Re: CVS Delete All Files

2000-06-06 Thread Eric Siegerman
would consume all the input, and the second wouldn't see any. The only way I can think of to do this is to save the list in an intermediate buffer. Fortunately, this particular case is easier: find . -type f -print | grep -v CVS | xargs cvs rm -f (No quotes, by the way.) -- |

Re: Hypothetical: Adding the first file in a repository on a branch

2000-06-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
r-x 4 ericswww 512 Jun 14 18:04 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 ericswww 512 Jun 14 18:04 CVS $ cvs tag -b branch cvs tag: Tagging . $ echo $? 0 $ It would suffice if this also added "branch" to val-tags. -- | | /\ |-_|/ >

Re: PVCS CVS importer?

2000-06-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
se ... but each is wrong for the other team's development style. Not too surprising; each company will have picked a tool that suited their way of working, or adapted to the tool's way of working, or most likely some of each. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont

Re: Files created on Branch

2000-06-16 Thread Eric Siegerman
add file `index.htm' when RCS file >`/export/home/cvs/netops/doc/index.htm,v' already exists > cvs [server aborted]: correct above errors first! > -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / [Microsoft's] www.hotmail.com

Re: ".trunk" patch refinement

2000-06-19 Thread Eric Siegerman
ot;say -r1 when you mean latest-on-trunk" is a kludge, to work around the lack of ".trunk". That it fails on trunk revision 2.x isn't a corner case in CVS; it's a limitation of the kludge. The man's offering to obviate this kludge with a correct solution; what&#x

Re: Repeatedly merging from branch to trunk

2000-06-20 Thread Eric Siegerman
ne -- but I'm not quite sure how to do this in a context of ongoing bug-fixes to the previous release. The expedient thing, if the "Line 2 on the trunk" changes are fairly localized, might be to check them in on the branch, so that there's no longer a disagreement.

Re: Problem

2000-06-20 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 05:07:04PM -0700, Zieroth, Brian D. wrote: > I'm getting a problem (see below) whenver I try to a "get". The operative line is "Permission denied". You can't write to /cvs/sql/data_model. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, T

Re: Empty directories

2000-06-26 Thread Eric Siegerman
logs, temp files, or other things that are not intended to be CVS-tracked, you'll need a .cvsignore anyway. Since that will suffice to make the directory non-empty, you won't need a .keep_me file as well. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: Diff / Status problem

2000-07-05 Thread Eric Siegerman
#x27;s assumptions and the client O/S's file-copy semantics, not to any mis?-configuration of CVS. Therefore: > This, really, isn't a problem of CVS! I beg to disagree. I've even been bitten by this once or twice even in a pure-UNIX context (I can't remember the de

Re: Linked Files in the Repository

2000-07-13 Thread Eric Siegerman
all, which is the salient detail here. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / [Microsoft's] www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) ... on FreeBSD - Netcraft's "What's that site running?" service, 12-Jun-2000

Re: WinCVS license inquiry

2000-07-13 Thread Eric Siegerman
se it. If you *redistribute* it, you still don't need approval, but you need to do certain things (like make the source available). Long answer: read the GPL. It's not that painful. Really. It's the COPYING file in the CVS distribution, or http://www.fsf.org/copyleft/gpl.html

Re: [cciug] general makefile (and script) style rule

2000-07-28 Thread Eric Siegerman
he API provides no way to specify the mapping). -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / [Microsoft's] www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) ... on FreeBSD - Netcraft's "What's that site running?" service, 12-Jun-2000

Re: CVS pids and the pids of its kids

2000-08-03 Thread Eric Siegerman
directory names based on the > original cvs invocation pid. Why not make the original cvs (pid 1000 in my example) export the temp-dir name into an environment variable? The variable would be scoped correctly, by definition. And there would be no reliance on PIDs. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric

Re: Next CVS release? (1.10.9?)

2000-08-03 Thread Eric Siegerman
has long claimed to differentiate. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / [Microsoft's] www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) ... on FreeBSD - Netcraft's "What's that site running?" service, 12-Jun-2000

Re: Next CVS release? (1.10.9?)

2000-08-03 Thread Eric Siegerman
ity fixes only. Developers on the head > branch should feel free to make radical changes. and as other open-source projects have already discovered. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / [Microsoft's] www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) ... on FreeBSD - Netcraft's "What's that site running?" service, 12-Jun-2000

Re: CVS pids and the pids of its kids

2000-08-03 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Thu, Aug 03, 2000 at 04:09:56PM -0400, Laird Nelson wrote: > - Original Message - > From: Eric Siegerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Why not make the original cvs (pid 1000 in my example) export the > > temp-dir name into an environment variable? > > I'd

Re: CVS'ing home directory files; CVS in place

2000-08-03 Thread Eric Siegerman
you checkout > everything into. > > Then from your home directory create symlinks into the subdirectory. I've done this. It works great ... and has the fringe benefit that I can tar up the subdirectory to get it to machines that can't reach my CVS server (or that don't (yet)

Re: fatal signal and .rfl locks

2001-05-31 Thread Eric Siegerman
was going on. Or maybe something just went bad in the running kernel, and the reboot's all that was needed. But I'd want to put a fair amount of effort into convincing myself that's all it was. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |

Re: Versioning help after Tagging required.

2001-06-04 Thread Eric Siegerman
ot;module revision" is appropriate at the moment. And they have to remember the "-r" at commit time, which may be quite a while after they "cvs add"ed the file. It's easy to forget to do this; thus, any process that depends on it is bound to be fragile. Use CVS tag

Re: CVS and assesment

2001-06-04 Thread Eric Siegerman
re quality. And I'm afraid of pointy-haired managers who'll take the latest fad in programming metrics as gospel, and use them as a cheap and easy substitute for doing their own jobs properly. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, On

Re: Removal of tagged files

2001-06-11 Thread Eric Siegerman
dn't know). Search the list archives for references. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) __

Re: Maintaining branches...

2001-06-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
commit. The former would preserve consistency with current behaviour; the latter would bring this case more into line with the rest of CVS. Which of these would be preferable? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fl

Re: Maintaining branches...

2001-06-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
RCS 5.7 can handle files with custom metadata, > but it prints a warning. So even if CVS does extend the format > in this way, that won't prevent people from using RCS to get at > the data in an emergency.) > > If CVS opts for adding "newphrase"s, enhancing binary-file

Re: Maintaining branches...

2001-06-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
So you want to merge that bug fix only, but keep the rest of the fixes on B isolated until a later date. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. -

Re: Implementing Branches

2001-06-15 Thread Eric Siegerman
'll start with a clean slate but then bring a significant amount of stuff over from the old implementation, that's a hard one. I'd lean towards (4) ... but then, I'm a bit of a purist. I'd be interested to hear others' opinions too. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Sie

Re: to branch or not to branch

2001-06-16 Thread Eric Siegerman
his is how you'll be able to get back the exact sources that went into the release -- a branch tag won't be as helpful there. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this

Re: Future CVS Development

2001-06-18 Thread Eric Siegerman
n the RCS files because the RCS file format is extensible. It *should* be stored there because it's a permanent part of the file's history, not transitory like edit/watch info, and so belongs with the rest of that history. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.

Re: a unique merging problem

2001-06-19 Thread Eric Siegerman
sing diff and patch? Or merge, from the RCS distribution. That's the very small part of CVS that does the actual work of merging files. What the rest of CVS contributes is figuring out *which* files to merge :-) -- a problem you don't seem to have. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siege

Re: repository surfing

2001-06-21 Thread Eric Siegerman
e allowed to run on that particular box is "cvs". You might even be able to restrict it to "cvs server", but I'm not sure about that. If they still insist, even with a WWW interface, then NFS-mount the repo read-only on the machines they use. That way, at least they can&#

Re: repository surfing

2001-06-21 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:57:32PM -0400, Matthew Riechers wrote: > Eric Siegerman wrote: > > > > I don't > > recall how, but you can set SSH up so that the *only* command > > they're allowed to run on that particular box is "cvs". > > You c

Re: CVS file locking question

2001-06-21 Thread Eric Siegerman
overing easier -- with CVS, it's just a standard merge). -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source)

Re: repository surfing

2001-06-21 Thread Eric Siegerman
ement something like this for CVS (for Linux clients anyway). Someone responded by mentioning Katie, another system based on this idea (not CVS compatible, afaik). Neither is ready for prime time, but stand by. http://sourceforge.net/projects/cvsfs/ http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/katie/ --

Re: problem with cvs 1.11 and linux 7.1

2001-06-22 Thread Eric Siegerman
too large > for defined data type Maybe the CVS RPM is out of sync with the kernel. Try compiling CVS from source. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good ide

Re: .doc file concerns

2001-06-26 Thread Eric Siegerman
exists* says that there was enough demand for it for M$ to devote resources to that rather than some other feature. Which in turn argues that the concepts aren't inherently beyond (all) non-techies, as long as they're presented in a form they can understand (which Word does pretty much

Re: change date of a commit

2001-06-28 Thread Eric Siegerman
> Needless to say I'm moving soon to a client/server model to avoid > this and similar issues. Good plan :-) > btw, the utility i need this for is a small vb thing which parses the output > from cvs log into [a condensed version]: > [...] if this already existed and I re

Re: Client for BBedit remote access?

2001-06-28 Thread Eric Siegerman
ings this way if at all possible. Same goes for remote-mounting your CVS working directory, or the repository. Use CVS client/server, with a client that's native to your machine. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pig

Re: Extended characters

2001-07-03 Thread Eric Siegerman
version of CVS? > Does anyone > know if I can revert this change and fix this? How can we, until we understand the problem? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good i

Re: cvs admin -l and moving attic files to another directory

2001-07-03 Thread Eric Siegerman
ime, CVS is able to completely ignore the files in the Attic directories, so that they don't add any performance penalty. It can't *always* ignore them, but the times when it must look at them are precisely those times that you'll regret it if you moved them someplace else. -- | | /

Re: A repository on a Unix box being served to NT vai Samba...

2001-07-03 Thread Eric Siegerman
ore problems, including the never-ending headache of botched line endings. Use CVS client/server instead. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / "Doctor, it hurts when I do this." "So don't do it." __

Re: Problems branching in CVS

2001-07-06 Thread Eric Siegerman
atest branched version, do I need to simply > > check out -r branch_tag_text??? > > Correct. Because "cvs {co|update} -r branch_tag_text" explicitly says: for each file, give me that file's latest revision on branch "branch_tag_text", whatever its revision numb

Re: The hated $Log$ keyword

2001-07-08 Thread Eric Siegerman
ke the > plague. I thoroughly agree about $Log$, but: - what's evil about the rest? - why do you put $Header$ in the "totally evil" class, not merely evil? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pi

Re: The hated $Log$ keyword

2001-07-08 Thread Eric Siegerman
If you move your repo all that info becomes wrong even though > nothing else has to break. Point taken. > Well over a decade ago I argued for [...] > a way to expand just the relative path-prefix within > the repository Now that you mention it, I seem to recall wishing for the same t

Re: CVS comments

2001-07-09 Thread Eric Siegerman
eved. "cvs log" is indeed what you're looking for. If it's not showing any commit messages, it's because there aren't any :-( -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, thi

Re: Sticky tags

2001-07-11 Thread Eric Siegerman
ut in the non-sticky case, my mistake will pollute the repo; in the sticky case, I'm the only one who'll suffer. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good

Re: moving files from a branch to the Main trunk

2001-07-11 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 11:33:48AM -0700, Ketan Shah wrote: > I would like to collapse this branch and have these files on the main > trunk. Use the -j option to "cvs update". See the manual for details. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROT

Re: The hated $Log$ keyword

2001-07-11 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 04:12:30AM -0400, Greg A. Woods wrote: > [ On Monday, July 9, 2001 at 00:01:01 (-0400), Eric Siegerman wrote: ] > Well, with CVS the meaning of "frozen" file is quite a bit different. > > In the most basic sense what I'm saying is that "

Re: Set UID bit on files

2001-07-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
discussion on the topic) - I don't think it ever preserved setuid or setgid (at least, an old version of the manual doesn't list those as among the attributes it preserved) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient

Re: Sticky tags

2001-07-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
TAG happens to be a branch tag, but is (usually) just annoying when TAG happens to be a release tag. When I referred to "sticky non-branch tags", that was shorthand for "the sticky behaviour of 'cvs update -rNON-BRANCH-TAG'". That's a common idiom on this list (and

Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
", the implication being that the former should be revision-controlled and the latter typically not, then there's NO difference between source whose form is text and source whose form is binary. If people were careful to say "object" when they meant "machine-generated

Re: pvcs to cvs and magic branches

2001-07-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
. I'm not sure why. (Exception: the vendor branch is 1.1.1 by default.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925

Re: Correct options for export

2001-07-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
the problem of someone going "cvs admin -kkv ." and recursively clobbering any binary-file settings in their project. To my mind, protecting "cvs admin -k" is a much more compelling reason to add the -kf mechanism than allowing people to forcibly override -kb at checkout time. --

Re: Correct options for export

2001-07-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
lost in the haystack.) Are there other problems besides these two? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea.

Re: Need to Fix Import

2001-07-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
ge it into your mainline. It won't bother CVS that there were two imports with no intervening merge; it'll just take the latest and greatest from the vendor branch, and not even notice the preceding junk revision. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[

Re: cvs add question

2001-07-13 Thread Eric Siegerman
> anybody cares. If they're compelling reasons not to do as I've suggested, an explanation might help us to come up with a (perhaps still nonstandard, but less ugly) way to do what you need. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAI

Re: pvcs to cvs and magic branches

2001-07-13 Thread Eric Siegerman
;s probably OK. But then, why expend all this extra effort to do something counter to CVS's documented design, just because you ought to be able to get away with it? The conversion script already makes sure the branch numbers are even; why not just go with the flow? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Er

Re: is this right?

2001-07-13 Thread Eric Siegerman
of course, but in fact it won't work at all. For how to do it in this less-than-ideal world, see the "Moving directories" node in the manual. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient

Re: Bidirectional repository synchronization with CVSup - how?

2001-09-21 Thread Eric Siegerman
er, and each server has to serve correspondingly fewer updates. One downside to this scheme is that every time a CVS operation touches a new repo, the user will have to type their passphrase again. That's annoying enough when there's only one repo! But if you choose SSH as your connection

Re: Slow Commits

2001-09-23 Thread Eric Siegerman
in the delay. (I don't know Exim, so I've assumed a normal client/server interaction; it's possible that the details are somewhat different than I've described, but the basic foreground/background distinction should still apply.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto,

Re: proposed workaround (RE: Bidirectional repository synchronization with CVSup - how?)

2001-09-23 Thread Eric Siegerman
at could well free up the money to invalidate the final assumption (taken from your first message): "bitkeeper is not (yet) an option for us" :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond .

Re: How to manage the same version of the program with juste one difference ?

2001-09-10 Thread Eric Siegerman
Unix-like environment within Windows. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. - RFC 1925 (quoting an unnamed source) ___ Info-

Re: HELP! Howto disable binary flags on files

2001-09-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
t yourself. Another possibility in your case is to try WinCVS instead of jCVS, for this one operation even if you don't switch to it permanently. It's not a reimplementation as jCVS is; it's a GUI layer built on the original command-line CVS. The latest WinCVS version, 1.2, is

Re: Stickiness

2001-09-13 Thread Eric Siegerman
.html They both say pretty much the same thing relevent to your question, in the process of talking about other things. I mention them both because one may make more sense to you than the other. The rest of both those threads might also be of some use. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Sieg

Re: CVS management of /etc - permissions problem

2001-09-13 Thread Eric Siegerman
(There may in fact be valid arguments to that effect, but these aren't among them.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. -

Re: importing a module b/w two repositories

2001-09-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
hin *one* repository, so why not use that and save yourself a lot of grief? I refer to branches of course. http://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs_5.html#SEC54 -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just f

Re: cvswrappers question

2001-09-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
complain that no merge is possible and do nothing As a workaround, when you get a conflict, you can duplicate these alternatives by: $ rm scrambled-file $ cvs update scrambled-file or: $ mv .#scrambled-file.1.X scrambled-file respectively. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.

Re: Argh... cvs admin -b

2001-09-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
nches (*note Reverting > local changes::). Perhaps that should be strengthened to "...only one reason...". -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However,

Re: Using network shares as sandboxes

2001-09-17 Thread Eric Siegerman
remote-mounting them in the first place is even more dangerous in and of itself. > (--- caer baedwin ---) Wuzzat? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / With su

Re: Adding description within changed files

2001-09-18 Thread Eric Siegerman
. (And by having the log present in the files, there will be a lot of temptation to go back and fix old messages.) Much better to leave the $Log$ out and use "cvs log" to browse the commit messsages. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | /

Re: CVS newbie setup questions

2001-09-18 Thread Eric Siegerman
s not the full manual, just a quickie tutorial. It assumes that you want to join an existing project, not create a brand-new one from scratch. You can't do the latter with either "cvs checkout" or "cvs add" (although a rather ugly combination of them can admittedly be used -

Re: about cvs time

2001-09-19 Thread Eric Siegerman
knowing > what the offset is *right now* doesn't tell you anything about what the > offset was some time in the past. I thought localtime(3) took care of all that. Or isn't it portable enough? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |

Re: Problems with -f option and checkout

2001-09-21 Thread Eric Siegerman
es containing the requested tag -- obviously a non-starter). But val-tags is not always correct; tags that are supposed to be listed in it aren't always there. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must r

Re: cvs status question

2001-09-24 Thread Eric Siegerman
e interested in. Make that "cvs -n update", if you don't want to actually update the sandbox. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to d

Re: cvs status question

2001-09-24 Thread Eric Siegerman
and you're still getting more output than you think you should be, please go into more detail. "cvs -nq update" should do what you want; if it doesn't appear to, something's wrong. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The w

Re: 3rd party software import deleted file issue

2001-09-24 Thread Eric Siegerman
tuation. The alternative to all of this is to manually "cvs rm" the obsolete files. (That used to be standard procedure in importing a new version of third-party sources, before the deleted-file-detection code appeared.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PRO

Re: File permissions

2001-09-25 Thread Eric Siegerman
tainers if you want to do something > productive about it. is horsefeathers. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run,

Re: Removing multiple tags at the same time

2001-09-25 Thread Eric Siegerman
patch with test cases and all if you only need it once... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what makes us fe

Re: Can check out file but not show history for it!

2001-09-26 Thread Eric Siegerman
it was posted in June. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what makes us feel better in the short ru

Re: CVS access control

2001-09-26 Thread Eric Siegerman
prevent me from stomping them with a bit of work ("cvs up -f1.5 -j1.4 foo.c" or "cvs up foo.c; mv foo.bak foo.c"). For many purposes, weak protection might be good enough to protect against unwanted actions by your authorized users, in conjunction with strong security t

Re: Getting better logging?

2001-09-26 Thread Eric Siegerman
I can't remember the details. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what makes us feel better in the short

Re: Right Permissons !?

2001-09-26 Thread Eric Siegerman
to set g+s on subdirectories -- but not on files -- so that this propagation will recursively happen to sub-subdirectories). BSD systems typically propagate group membership this way all the time; you can't turn it off, so you don't need to worry about turning it on :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/

Re: problem with binary attribute -kb

2001-10-19 Thread Eric Siegerman
likes to have strict locking turned *on* -- at least, that's how many of my CVS-created ,v files are set. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to d

Re: Forcing the date on a check-in

2001-10-22 Thread Eric Siegerman
-d option to ci. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what makes us feel better in the short run. - Je

Re: cvs ci removes group write permission if keywords expanded

2001-10-23 Thread Eric Siegerman
red sandboxes -- that the sharers can stomp each others' changes -- doesn't apply. As a side effect, the paired-programming discipline imposes a (people-level) locking scheme on the members of the pair, which prevents concurrent writes. So the prohibition becomes: don't share

Re: Checkout into a specific directory

2001-10-25 Thread Eric Siegerman
ies into this folder. > What I want is to be able to checkout the dir1 and dir2 > directories directly into c:\test. Is this possible? Try omitting the "-N" option. I'm not quite sure, but I think that'll do it. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.

Re: diff-iculties

2001-11-10 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 05:34:58AM -0800, Terrence Brannon wrote: > I added some things via cvs add but did not mean to > add them all. I want to remove some from the schedule for addition upon > commit. Just delete the file(s) from your sandbox and "cvs rm" them. -- | |

Re: remote cvs newbie question

2001-11-10 Thread Eric Siegerman
re the "diff" is performed to figure out that nothing in fact changed. Another possibility is that something's messing with the timestamps of the files in your sandbox. For example, people have recently been talking about a problem where WinCVS on Windows got confused by the day

Re: cvs import problem

2001-11-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
VS does them client/server is to make a temporary copy of (the relevent parts of) the sandbox in /tmp on the server, and then perform the operation locally on that copy. I'd guess that the file system that's filling up is /tmp, NOT the one containing the repo. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > E

Re: While commit: Terminated with fatal signal 11

2001-11-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
_ > Info-cvs mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment t

Re: Delete file / undelete, problems

2001-11-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
not necessary in order to explain what you're seeing. Once you fix whichever of (1) or (2) is wrong, if Eclipse *still* doesn't want to check out the file, then you can start to suspect bugs there. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | /

Re: ignoring whole directories

2001-11-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
except possibly for what "update" prints. Seems to me I tried it both ways, and "log" just insisted on aborting when it tried to recurse into the sandbox subdirectory, complaining about the missing /CVS. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Delete file / undelete, problems

2001-11-14 Thread Eric Siegerman
ate -j1.15 -j1.14 ILifecycle.java# See below cvs commit For the second update, the -j values should be the "dead" revision you just created and its *predecessor*, respectively. Good luck. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Re: moving cvs repository from one machine to another

2001-10-09 Thread Eric Siegerman
revisions to the old repo, too late for them to be copied to the new repo. (For a large repo, step (1) could take a long time, so this isn't a purely theoretical concern.) It'd be much safer to take the repo offline during this process -- scheduled downtime is almost certainly cheaper

Re: How to do this...

2001-10-09 Thread Eric Siegerman
; For the record, CVS gave me a number of > > cvs commit: Examining src/whatever > > messages, but no indication that it actually did anything (sigh). That should have worked. I'm not sure why it didn't. If the files in "changed" all have *exactly* th

Re: killing a branch

2001-10-09 Thread Eric Siegerman
g on the branch, so that when someone goes "cvs update -rbranch", they get nothing? That wouldn't *prevent* someone from committing to the branch, but it'd give them a pretty strong hint that doing so isn't what they really want... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric S

Re: killing a branch

2001-10-09 Thread Eric Siegerman
along with patches I think. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment to do what works in the long run, not by what makes us feel better in the short

Re: Need advice on 1) binary files, 2) locking

2001-10-09 Thread Eric Siegerman
ly this is error-prone, but it's probably the standard approach in pure graphics shops, if they can't completely avoid lossy compression in the first place. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must resp

Re: Why can't root check in files?

2001-10-12 Thread Eric Siegerman
in(), and that has no idea who the client's logged in as -- "root" is the only info available. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / The world has been attacked. The world must respond ... [but] we must be guided by a commitment t

Re: Help! Implementing Bi-Directional Merges

2001-10-15 Thread Eric Siegerman
inadvertent errors. Steve could switch DEV to the trunk and (what he calls) HEAD off of it, and his "habitual update includes -A" users would soon learn the error of their ways, i.e. when their commits kept failing, and they wouldn't be doing damage in the meantime. -- | | /\ |-_|/ &

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