Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-11 Thread rameiko87
I made some progress. My original problem was that Emacs or one of the components which intervene *locally* generate and introduce the Message-ID no matter the value of message-required-mail-headers. When message-required-mail-headers excludes Message-ID and message-generate-headers-first

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-11 Thread rameiko87
You can set `message-generate-headers-first' to t and see what headers Message produces when you start editing a message. Good suggestion: I just tried. Now message-generate-headers-first is true, and Message-ID doesn't appear in the message-required-mail-headers. Result: my emails all have

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-11 Thread rameiko87
Well, how else do you explain that when I remove Message-ID from message-required-mail-headers and send my email, then the Message-ID is given by the value of message-user-fqdn or when nil, by system-name? As I already said: My guess was that your sendmail program adds a message-id

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-11 Thread Adam Sjøgren
One advantage of your email program setting the Message-ID is that the unique identifier of the email is then known by your email program. Best regards, Adam -- "It was called Tinderbox so we could make the joke,Adam Sjøgren 'the tree is on fire'. Puns are very impo

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-11 Thread rameiko87
Dear Liman, Am I right in understanding it as "my host doesn't know its own hostname (identity), so it's unable to create a useful Message-ID"? Not sure, because my original problem was that Emacs or one of the components which intervene *locally* generate and introduce the

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-11 Thread Otto J. Makela
On 12/11/23 11:01, Lars-Johan Liman wrote: FWIW, I agree with Arash's sentiment. This, again, goes back to the notion that a message without a Message-ID is (more or less) invalid. Therefore any and all e-mail software (user agents and transport agents alike) is disciplined to add a Message-ID

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-11 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
FWIW, I agree with Arash's sentiment. This, again, goes back to the notion that a message without a Message-ID is (more or less) invalid. Therefore any and all e-mail software (user agents and transport agents alike) is disciplined to add a Message-ID to any message without one, to avoid

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-10 Thread Arash Esbati
rameik...@posteo.net writes: > Well, how else do you explain that when I remove Message-ID from > message-required-mail-headers and send my email, then the Message-ID > is given by the value of message-user-fqdn or when nil, by > system-name? As I already said: My guess was that y

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-10 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
s "my host doesn't know its own hostname (identity), so it's unable to create a useful Message-ID"? If I "zoom out" and try to rephrase your problem as a generic question, I come up with this: "Which entity (i.e., which device) should be responsible for adding the Mess

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-09 Thread Bob Newell
Not 100% relevant, and I have posted an earlier version before, but I have fun with the following which completely randomizes the Message ID and user agent for every email I send from gnus. (Sometimes you actually want this; think about it!) However some SMTP servers rudely go ahead

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-09 Thread rameiko87
I'm not sure if Message is ignoring the value of `message-required-mail-headers'. Well, how else do you explain that when I remove Message-ID from message-required-mail-headers and send my email, then the Message-ID is given by the value of message-user-fqdn or when nil, by system-name? My

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-09 Thread Arash Esbati
the meaning of the variable > message-required-mail-headers if it's essentially ignored by Message > when I remove the Message-ID header from the list. I'm not sure if Message is ignoring the value of `message-required-mail-headers'. > Anyway now I'm back to the original problem where I don't

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-09 Thread rameiko87
thing like yourUserName.userfqdn.provider.net, or you can use somethingUnique.yourdomain.tld if you own the domain yourdomain.tld, or you can register at a service which gives private users a FQDN for free. None of these apply to me. Then I read just below: Finally you can tell Gnus not to generate a Message-I

Re: Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-08 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
Hi! Message-ID is one of the very few _mandatory_ header lines, so a message without one is not a valid RFC 5322 (the sucessor of RFC 822) message. Therefore the message "must not/cannot" leave your computer without one. It has to be set on the computer if it's being shipped by a ma

Have message-ID set by my email server rather than by Message

2023-12-08 Thread rameiko87
Hello everyone! I'm on Emacs 29.1 and I use Message and sendmail for writing emails. I don't load Gnus but I do the easy C-x m. I can't get Emacs not to add Message-ID to my outgoing mail! I would be very grateful if some of you could help me out a little, I'm kind of a beginner. I set https

Re: Finding a thread based on message-id?

2020-10-29 Thread Alberto Luaces
Alex Bennée writes: > What's the correct gnus way to resurface and > narrow to a thread when you say know the message-id of the head of the > thread? I'd say "press j" (gnus-summary-goto-article). -- Alberto ___ info-gnus-englis

Finding a thread based on message-id?

2020-10-29 Thread Alex Bennée
to a thread when you say know the message-id of the head of the thread? -- Alex Bennée ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english

Re: New error message about Message-ID

2017-04-04 Thread Julien Cubizolles
Rasmus writes: > See, > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25702 > > I work around this bug by adding this to init.el > > (with-eval-after-load 'message > (setq message-bogus-system-names > (regexp-opt '("W530" "X200" "X200s" Sorry for the late

Re: New error message about Message-ID

2017-03-22 Thread Rasmus
Julien Cubizolles <j.cubizol...@free.fr> writes: > I recently noticed that gnus complains about the Message-ID of outoing > posts (to gmane) with: > > The Message-ID looks strange: "<871stpikxi.fsf@lago>". Really post? (y > or n) y > > lago is the hostn

New error message about Message-ID

2017-03-22 Thread Julien Cubizolles
I recently noticed that gnus complains about the Message-ID of outoing posts (to gmane) with: --8<---cut here---start->8--- The Message-ID looks strange: "<871stpikxi.fsf@lago>". Really post? (y or n) y --8<---c

Re: nnimap and searching articles by message-id

2009-09-25 Thread Ted Zlatanov
. requires the message-id be stripped of the enclosing angle brackets when searching for messages like so: UID SEARCH HEADER Message-Id .y...@foobar.com Not sure who is not compliant here: Gnus/nnimap or the IMAP server? Cc-ing the developer list. Maybe someone there knows. jh

Re: nnimap and searching articles by message-id

2009-09-22 Thread janko hrasko
--- On Sat, 9/19/09, Reiner Steib reinersteib+gm...@imap.cc wrote: It turns out that the IMAP server I am using Which IMAP server software is it? It is a part of Oracle Beehive collaboration suite. requires the message-id be stripped of the enclosing angle brackets when searching

Re: nnimap and searching articles by message-id

2009-09-21 Thread Peter
Reiner Steib reinersteib+gmane at imap.cc writes: It turns out that the IMAP server I am using Which IMAP server software is it? It is a part of Oracle Beehive collaboration suite. requires the message-id be stripped of the enclosing angle brackets when searching for messages like so

Re: nnimap and searching articles by message-id

2009-09-19 Thread Reiner Steib
On Sat, Sep 19 2009, Peter wrote: It turns out that the IMAP server I am using Which IMAP server software is it? requires the message-id be stripped of the enclosing angle brackets when searching for messages like so: UID SEARCH HEADER Message-Id .y...@foobar.com Not sure who

nnimap and searching articles by message-id

2009-09-18 Thread Peter
Hi, It turns out that the IMAP server I am using requires the message-id be stripped of the enclosing angle brackets when searching for messages like so: UID SEARCH HEADER Message-Id .y...@foobar.com Not sure who is not compliant here: Gnus/nnimap or the IMAP server? I found that gnus

Re: Message-ID

2007-11-20 Thread Heinrich Moser
Katsumi Yamaoka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Heinrich Moser wrote: Why is my message ID broken (@localhost.localdomain, see this message), although I followed the steps of FAQ Q2.16* and set mail-host-address correctly**? Unfortunately Gnus v5.9 prefers the system name if it contains dots

Message-ID

2007-11-19 Thread Heinrich Moser
Hi! Why is my message ID broken (@localhost.localdomain, see this message), although I followed the steps of FAQ Q2.16* and set mail-host-address correctly**? Greetings, TIA, Heinzi * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/gnus-faq/ ** (custom-set-variables ;; custom-set-variables was added by Custom

Re: Message-ID

2007-11-19 Thread Katsumi Yamaoka
Heinrich Moser wrote: Why is my message ID broken (@localhost.localdomain, see this message), although I followed the steps of FAQ Q2.16* and set mail-host-address correctly**? Greetings, TIA, Heinzi * http://www.faqs.org/faqs/gnus-faq/ Unfortunately Gnus v5.9 prefers the system

Re: How to Message-ID in citation-line

2007-11-01 Thread Guillermo Antonio Amaral Bastidas
Reiner Steib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please don't. Quoting myself: ,[ http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64883 ] | Personally, I think adding the MID in the citation line is completely | useless. In contrast to name, mail address or date this information | _is_

Re: How to Message-ID in citation-line

2007-11-01 Thread David Z Maze
to hear many to learn more ;-) and sorry I cannot give you some help If I was going to put this together, I'd write a custom citation function and set message-citation-line-function to point to it. Within that function, it looks like, I can call things like (message-fetch-reply-field Message-ID

How to Message-ID in citation-line

2007-10-31 Thread Guillermo Antonio Amaral Bastidas
Hi fellow gnus, Does anybody know how one could go about getting the Message-ID into the insert-citation-line, I do know I need to write a function, but I lack relevant examples to analyze. I am looking for something like this: In message MESSAGE-ID E-MAIL (FULL NAME) wrote: Maybe

[META] Message-Id changes [Was: reconnecting threads]

2005-11-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
, too). This very thread is broken for me. Looking at your reply, I see the references header contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] But the Message-Id of my original post was [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why? Does mailman rewrite the Message-Id? Any way to prevent that? -- A true pessimist won't be discouraged