Tijnema wrote:
Yes, that's what I meant to say, they can be implemented on top of,
just like the above mentioned json, it is implemented on top of too.
But, that means that a regular PHP programmer doesn't need PHP5 for
his scripts (except for OO if they want). Do you think it matters to
them if
David Coallier schrieb:
On 7/11/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, Jeff Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
chris# wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:30:26 -0500, Larry Garfield
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...
The claim that is still repeated
that one has to rewrite everything
Richard Lynch schrieb:
And for those of us who never use autoload OR SPL, could you please
not force SPL into core?
From a regular PHP developer's perspective, SPL is part of the core
(read: it is guaranteed that it is always there). The manual says so,
and it has been said in most, if not all
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:18:17 -0400, David Coallier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, Jeff Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
chris# wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:30:26 -0500, Larry Garfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
The claim that
chris# schrieb:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:18:17 -0400, David Coallier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 7/11/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, Jeff Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
chris# wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:30:26 -0500, Larry Garfield
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:23:20 -0500 (CDT), Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Remember that old series of jokes about how C is a language that lets
you shoot your foot off?
runkit lets you design a gun so you can use one foot to shoot the other.
LOL!
Yes, I've been looking at it as
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:27:21 -0500 (CDT), Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, July 11, 2007 3:11 am, Richard Quadling wrote:
On 11/07/07, Evert | Rooftop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Larry Garfield wrote:
Top 10 by what metric? If I had to guess based on market share,
I'd say
Hello Richard,
On 7/12/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, July 11, 2007 6:13 pm, Tijnema wrote:
On 7/12/07, Jani Taskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A lot easier (and works already) is to install PHP as CGI/FastCGI
(one version or all of them, one can be module of course) and
On 7/12/07, Guilherme Blanco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Tijnema,
I think here is something that might interest you:
http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/3472.html
Regards,
Hello Guilherme,
This comes quite close to my idea, except that this does only
uncomment specfic sections that
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 09:30 +0200, Stefan Priebsch wrote:
From a regular PHP developer's perspective, SPL is part of the core
(read: it is guaranteed that it is always there). The manual says so,
and it has been said in most, if not all SPL-related presentations.
If manual says that then the
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 11:04 +0200, Sebastian Mendel wrote:
i don't think so ... PHP 5 is always the better choice ... cause PHP 4
development has stopped and support will end and you will get no more
security update after 2008-08-08(?)
Actually this has been the de-facto state of PHP 4 for a
On 7/12/07, David Coallier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, Jeff Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
chris# wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:30:26 -0500, Larry Garfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
...
The claim that is still repeated
that
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:43:06 -0700, Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
chris# wrote:
It was possible to have PHP3 and PHP4 both as modules, I think, but
that was an anomoly?
So which one of the developers broke this /feature/ in 5? ;)
This wasn't supported on all platforms in 4
Richard Lynch wrote:
On Wed, July 11, 2007 3:11 am, Richard Quadling wrote:
On 11/07/07, Evert | Rooftop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Larry Garfield wrote:
Top 10 by what metric? If I had to guess based on market share,
I'd say
(unordered):
Drupal
Squirrelmail
WordPress
phpMyAdmin
MediaWiki
Larry Garfield schrieb:
On Tuesday 10 July 2007, Evert | Rooftop wrote:
Andi Gutmans wrote:
I think the sooner the better as it's valuable information for the dev
team.
It'd probably be a good idea to have a Wiki where we can document issues
that/common use-cases which are encountered.
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:13:07 +0100, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tijnema wrote:
Yes, that's what I meant to say, they can be implemented on top of,
just like the above mentioned json, it is implemented on top of too.
But, that means that a regular PHP programmer doesn't need PHP5
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:04:53 +0200, Sebastian Mendel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
chris# schrieb:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:18:17 -0400, David Coallier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 7/11/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, Jeff Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
chris# wrote:
On
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:38:44 +0200, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Richard,
On 7/12/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, July 11, 2007 6:13 pm, Tijnema wrote:
On 7/12/07, Jani Taskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A lot easier (and works already) is to install PHP as
chris# wrote:
Something just occurred to me that might satisfy both sides of the issue.
What about the way Apache handles their versions of Apache (1.x and 2.x).
That is to say; they haven't abandoned 1.3 (no surprise, as I think it still
has the biggest install base). They simply maintain
Something just occurred to me that might satisfy both sides of the issue.
What about the way Apache handles their versions of Apache (1.x and 2.x).
That is to say; they haven't abandoned 1.3 (no surprise, as I think it
still
has the biggest install base). They simply maintain security related
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:51:39 +0100, Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
chris# wrote:
Something just occurred to me that might satisfy both sides of the
issue.
What about the way Apache handles their versions of Apache (1.x and
2.x).
That is to say; they haven't abandoned 1.3 (no
On 7/12/07, chris# [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:38:44 +0200, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Richard,
On 7/12/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, July 11, 2007 6:13 pm, Tijnema wrote:
On 7/12/07, Jani Taskinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A lot
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:41:16 +0200, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/12/07, chris# [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:38:44 +0200, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Richard,
On 7/12/07, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, July 11, 2007 6:13 pm,
On 7/12/07, David Coallier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/12/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/12/07, David Coallier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, Tijnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/11/07, Jeff Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
chris# wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:31:34 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stanislav Malyshev) wrote:
I understand we're forcing some structure here, but I think
actually it's good - and many other languages have it either
by design or de-facto.
Personally, I'm of the opinion that file structure should be an
Similarly, allowing multiple namespaces per file does not limit the
developer in any way. Not allowing them does. I always thought a
language should be designed to empower it's developers, not get in
their way.
My opinion is that sometimes language *should* get in the way - if the
developer is
On the whole suite of tests (which includes the Graph and Template
tests), execution time with unmodified PHP was 12:03. With cycle
collection, it was 12:43.
these numbers are quite impressive.
Indeed, memory usage reduction is very impressive - though I'm somewhat
surprised so much memory
On 7/12/07, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Similarly, allowing multiple namespaces per file does not limit the
developer in any way. Not allowing them does. I always thought a
language should be designed to empower it's developers, not get in
their way.
My opinion is that
From our perspective, you've gone and changed a fundamental data
structure out from under us, in a non-backwards-compatible way, and
broken a whole bunch of working code, for a feature we don't use, and
can't turn off [*]
Supporting unicode requires such change. It is a big deal - Unicode does
AFAIK, UTF-8 is backward compatible with ASCII. UTF-16 is not. That's why
Well, with 7-bit ASCII - yes. With 8-bit extended ASCII, whatever that
means - not exactly. You can have 8-bit strings that aren't valid UTF-8
and can't be translated to UTF-8 without specifying the encoding
I think I finally have something demoable, regarding the possibility of
extending pecl4win to offer compiled dlls of the released version pf
pecl packages, besides the compiled cvs version.
The build process is almost ok:
+ two separate build environments (incl. pecl trees) are used: one for
Hi all,
-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Bergmann
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:52 AM
As a first step, I think the code changes that convert direct accesses
to the reference counters to the proper macros should be merged. These
Hi,
David wrote:
Hi all,
-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Bergmann
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:52 AM
As a first step, I think the code changes that convert direct accesses
to the reference counters to the proper macros should
Could the garabage collector be started / stopped during script
executing from a userland function? zend_gc_enable/disable() in
addition
to an ini option to enable it at script startup?
Yes, that functionality can be added fairly easily. Some GC code will still
have to be executed (such as
Hi David,
Isn't finding cycles an NP-complete problem? :) How can you know there
are no cycles without actually looking for them?
It would definitely be nice to be able to turn this feature on/off at
runtime. The majority of pages in PHP don't require such a feature but
it's a good thing for us
Hi,
-Original Message-
From: Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:06 PM
To: David; Scott MacVicar
Cc: Stas Malyshev; Sebastian Bergmann; internals@lists.php.net
Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Mid-term Update for Cycle Collector (Google
Summer of Code
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