Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Remove deprecated functionality in PHP 7

2014-12-22 Thread Alain Williams
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 05:04:23PM +1100, Pierre Joye wrote: > Or Remi's repo. Best thing ever :) Oh - that is news for me! http://remi.check-update.co.uk/ Could I suggest that things like this are linked to from here: http://uk1.php.net/downloads.php Even if you feel that there must be a dis

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols

2014-12-22 Thread Lester Caine
If the core functionality remains ASCII based then there is no need to drop case insensitivity, but if there is a move to better multi-lingual support, then it may be necessary for compatibility with Unicode? Sent from my android device so the quoting is crap! -Original Message- From: X

RE: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols

2014-12-22 Thread F & N Laupretre
> De : Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre@gmail.com] > > In my opinion the pains introduced by such a change does not match > with any possible gains. Many areas affect the request time badly > (IOs, mem, etc), I do not see case insensitivity as one Right. It is not a question of performance, as the

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols

2014-12-22 Thread Alain Williams
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:18:29AM +0100, Lester Caine wrote: > If the core functionality remains ASCII based then there is no need to drop > case insensitivity, but if there is a move to better multi-lingual support, > then it may be necessary for compatibility with Unicode? This issue is about

RE: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols

2014-12-22 Thread Pierre Joye
On Dec 22, 2014 4:33 PM, "F & N Laupretre" wrote: > With all due respect, I don't like the idea that you know better than me what's important or not. I should put the "I am not saying .." outlined. Also no matter how we look at it, there are actually a good amount of things that we must solve or

[PHP-DEV] Re: [VOTE][RFC] Access to aliases definition by reflection

2014-12-22 Thread Miloslav Hůla
Dne 26.11.2014 v 10:48 Miloslav Hůla napsal(a): after several weeks, I'm opening voting process for the RFC https://wiki.php.net/rfc/aliases_by_reflection. Dear internals, I closed the voting just now. 1x YES, 10x NO, so, not accepted. Anyway, all the best for the coming year! :) Milo -- P

Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Abstract final / Static classes

2014-12-22 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
Hi everyone, Voting is now closed. Since this RFC required a 2/3 majority, the result is against the implementation of this feature in PHP. RFC is now updated and moved to withdrawn section. Thanks, On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Tjerk Meesters wrote: > > > On 13 Dec 2014, at 00:35, guilher

[PHP-DEV] [RFC] Package private class

2014-12-22 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
Hi internals, I finalized a new proposal for PHP. It consists into adding support for package-private classes in the language. A package private class is basically a class that can only be instantiated in its declared namespace. This means that you cannot extend, implement or use a class, interfa

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols

2014-12-22 Thread Yasuo Ohgaki
Hi all, On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:33 AM, David Muir wrote: > +1 on E_STRICT warning for case mismatch on class names. Also +1 on > eventual case sensitivity for userland class names. Not convinced the rest > is worth it. > > The insensitivity makes code brittle. Sometimes the same code will run

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols

2014-12-22 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:01 PM, F & N Laupretre wrote: > Hi, > > > > I don't know if this was discussed before. So, tell me what you think > before > I write an RFC. > > > > I would like to propose that namespaces, functions, and classes become > case-sensitive (constants are already case-sensi

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Remove deprecated functionality in PHP 7

2014-12-22 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Alain Williams wrote: > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 05:04:23PM +1100, Pierre Joye wrote: > > > Or Remi's repo. Best thing ever :) > > Oh - that is news for me! > > http://remi.check-update.co.uk/ > > Could I suggest that things like this are linked to from here: > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols

2014-12-22 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
+1 for adding E_DEPRECATED and removing support in PHP 8. On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:01 PM, F & N Laupretre > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I don't know if this was discussed before. So, tell me what you think > > before > > I write an

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols

2014-12-22 Thread Alain Williams
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:40:33PM -0200, guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: > +1 for adding E_DEPRECATED and removing support in PHP 8. +1 -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 http://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliam

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Package private class

2014-12-22 Thread Leigh
On 23 December 2014 at 00:32, guilhermebla...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi internals, > > I finalized a new proposal for PHP. It consists into adding support for > package-private classes in the language. > > A package private class is basically a class that can only be instantiated > in its declared nam

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Package private class

2014-12-22 Thread Leigh
On 23 December 2014 at 03:34, Leigh wrote: > On 23 December 2014 at 00:32, guilhermebla...@gmail.com > wrote: >> ... > ... I forgot that all important +1 :) -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols

2014-12-22 Thread Pierre Joye
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 11:01 PM, F & N Laupretre > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I don't know if this was discussed before. So, tell me what you think >> before >> I write an RFC. >> >> >> >> I would like to propose that namespaces, functions

Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols

2014-12-22 Thread Remi Collet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 20/12/2014 23:01, F & N Laupretre a écrit : > Hi, > > > > I don't know if this was discussed before. So, tell me what you > think before I write an RFC. > > > > I would like to propose that namespaces, functions, and classes > become case-sens