On Sun, Oct 6, 2024, at 12:33 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>> On Oct 2, 2024, at 3:36 PM, Andreas Heigl wrote:
>> IMO the PHP website is more or less a bunch of static pages. There is not
>> really much interaction necessary. So having a framework might not
>> necessarily be The Thing.
>
> You may b
On Mon, Oct 7, 2024, at 2:54 AM, Jakub Zelenka wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 7:38 PM Larry Garfield wrote:
>> Since Jim's RFC proposal was criticized for being too vague, I hereby offer
>> a somewhat more prescriptive policy proposal on using 3rd party code. (With
>> JIm's blessing.)
On Wed, Oct 2, 2024, at 12:17 PM, Deleu wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 3:38 PM Larry Garfield wrote:
>> Since Jim's RFC proposal was criticized for being too vague, I hereby offer
>> a somewhat more prescriptive policy proposal on using 3rd party code. (With
>> JIm's blessing.) It's still mor
On Thu, Sep 26, 2024, at 5:13 AM, Tim Düsterhus wrote:
> Hi
>
> Am 2024-09-25 01:45, schrieb Jim Winstead:
>> It has taken me longer than initially anticipated to circle back to
>> this, but I intend to open the voting on this RFC on Thursday
>> (2024-09-26T16:00:00Z
On Wed, Sep 25, 2024, at 12:17 PM, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> On 25.09.2024 at 20:54, Ayesh Karunaratne wrote:
>
>> My name is Ayesh Karunaratne, with GitHub username @Ayesh.
>>
>> In one of my recent PRs, Christoph (@cmb) made a friendly mention that
>> it might be time for a php.net and commit
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024, at 10:44 AM, Jim Winstead wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Another RFC around process:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/web-and-doc-use-not-endorsement
>
> Feedback would be appreciated. My intention is to start voting on September
> 9th unless there is still ongoing disc
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024, at 9:54 AM, Calvin Buckley wrote:
> On Aug 29, 2024, at 2:49 PM, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> it seems to me that we're pulling through ext/snmp without having any
>> real expert of the protocol, let alone of the implementation. The
>> extension has no
On Mon, Aug 26, 2024, at 10:54 AM, Deleu wrote:
> Hi Jim!
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 2:48 PM Jim Winstead wrote:
>> __
>> Hi,
>>
>> Another RFC around process:
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/web-and-doc-use-not-endorsement
>>
>> Feedback would
On Tue, Aug 27, 2024, at 4:46 AM, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> On 27.08.2024 at 07:03, Andreas Heigl wrote:
>
>> I see this a bid differently to be honest. While I understand that using
>> third party packages in our internal tools might make things easier in
>> the short term it will cause a lot o
Hi,
Another RFC around process:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/web-and-doc-use-not-endorsement
Feedback would be appreciated. My intention is to start voting on September 9th
unless there is still ongoing discussion.
Thanks.
Jim
On Aug 11, 2024, at 10:22 AM, Marco Aurélio Deleu wrote:
> On 11 Aug 2024, at 13:59, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
>>
>> On a general note, the whole administrative part of the RFC process
>> feels like we're stuck in the 20th century. For instance, to start the
>> vote, you are supposed to:
>>
>
On Sat, Jul 20, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Christoph M. Becker wrote:
> Quite a while ago, Damian had suggested to "don't allow any further
> edits, comments, uploads, or other activity except by php.net developer
> accounts."[1] In my opinion, this is overdue, so after a very brief
> "discussion" on this
(Followups on this should probably just go to the php-webmaster@ list, but I've
included internals@ one last time just to leave a pointer to where the
conversation may continue.)
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024, at 7:09 AM, Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024, Roman Pronskiy wrote:
>
>> 2. Analytic
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024, at 6:54 AM, Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024, Roman Pronskiy wrote:
>
>> 3. Deployment Process
>> Recently, there was an incident with a code block pushed to the
>> website accidentally: https://github.com/php/web-php/pull/1021. It was
>> promptly reverted, but the
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, at 5:00 PM, Dennis Snell wrote:
> [ lots snipped ]
>
> We’re exploring pure-PHP solutions to these problems in WordPress in attempts
> to improve the reliability and safety of handling HTML. I’d love to hear your
> thoughts and know if anyone is willing to work with me to cr
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024, at 9:44 AM, Roman Pronskiy wrote:
> [ snipped the specific issues ]
>
> I’d like to volunteer to help improve the PHP website and coordinate
> efforts. Looking forward to your feedback.
Once upon a time, management of the web site(s) was handled by those on the
webmaster mai
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024, at 12:24 PM, Bilge wrote:
> On 10/07/2024 19:42, Derick Rethans wrote:
>> Notes where never meant to be helpful to other developers. They were hints
>> to the editors
> If that's the case, why would they even be public?
>
I think Derick is over-stating things a bit. As I me
On Wed, Jul 10, 2024, at 7:18 AM, Derick Rethans wrote:
> We discussed this during one of our foundation meetings, and we propose:
>
> - to delete all notes with a rating less than -5 that are older than a
> year.
> - come up with a plan to crowd source going through the other thousands
> of
On Thu, Jun 27, 2024, at 2:14 PM, Jordan LeDoux wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 12:53 PM Jim Winstead wrote:
>> __
>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, at 7:15 PM, Michael Morris wrote:
>>> PHP User Modules are php files that are brought into the runtime through a
>>> ne
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, at 7:15 PM, Michael Morris wrote:
> PHP User Modules are php files that are brought into the runtime through a
> new parser that is able to generate faster and more concise runtime code by
> removing support for problematic features and imposing a strict mode by
> default.
On Thu, Mar 21, 2024, at 10:54 AM, Derick Rethans wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, Jakub Zelenka wrote:
>
>> I would like to propose a new process RFC for updates to PHP release
>> cycle:
>>
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/release_cycle_update
>
> I have just published version 0.2 of this propos
On Sat, Mar 9, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Bruce Weirdan wrote:
> Hi Jim
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2024, 20:46 Jim Winstead wrote:
>> If the adherence to semantic versioning is meant to be strict,
>
> PHP doesn't follow semver and never had.
Okay, strike that and replace it with &q
On Sat, Mar 9, 2024, at 5:07 AM, Jakub Zelenka wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 6:30 PM Jim Winstead wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 8, 2024, at 12:12 AM, Hans Henrik Bergan wrote:
>> > On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 20:17, Larry Garfield wrote:
>> >>
>> >> A 3 way up-down
On Sat, Mar 9, 2024, at 8:00 AM, Larry Garfield wrote:
]> If there's some math reason that we cannot have those functions return
> int (someone mentioned there was, but I don't really understand it and
> the RFC does not explain it at all), then we should at least keep
> consistency in the retur
On Fri, Mar 8, 2024, at 12:12 AM, Hans Henrik Bergan wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 20:17, Larry Garfield wrote:
>>
>> A 3 way up-down vote doesn't make sense. What happens if none of the 3
>> options reaches 66%?
>>
>> The viable options here are a single RCV vote (which we've done before), or
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024, at 12:57 AM, Jorg Sowa wrote:
> Hello Jim,
> shoudl this RFC be placed into the Policies repository as it was accepted?
>
> https://github.com/php/policies
I'm not sure that it's necessary, but if it fits in there somehow I have no
problem with it. I didn't see this as an ado
On Tue, Feb 6, 2024, at 12:19 PM, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
> Howdy all, haven't posted in ages but good to see the list going strong.
>
> I'd like a little background on something we've long accepted: why
> does the serialization format need double quotes around a string, even
> though the byte leng
Hello again,
The RFC was approved unanimously, so as soon as someone with the appropriate
access does the thing, the link will go up.
Thanks.
Jim
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Hi all,
I've just opened voting for this RFC @
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/promote_php_foundation
Voting started now, and will run until January 31 2024, 00:00 UTC.
Thanks.
Jim
Hi,
I've created a simple RFC so a vote can be taken on adding a link to the PHP
Foundation from the PHP.net site.
If there's no substantial discussion ongoing, I'll plan on opening the voting
on January 13th.
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/promote_php_foundation
Thanks.
Jim
On Sat, Dec 2, 2023, at 1:32 AM, Rowan Tommins wrote:
> The only note of caution I would throw in is that the recent Technical
> Committee proposal [1] was soundly rejected, so any *organisational* changes
> are likely to be a lot more contentious. So care should be taken to separate
> those fro
On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, at 12:39 AM, James Titcumb wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 at 07:28, Andreas Heigl wrote:
>
> >
> > I would even support an RFC that goes one step beyond that and not only
> > officially recognize the PHPFoundation as a sponsoring organization but
> > also transfers the Copyrig
Hi (again),
A quick re-intro for those who don't know or remember me: I'm one of the
original PHP Group members, mostly active during the time of horses, buggies,
and the transitions from PHP/FI to PHP 3 and PHP 4. I worked for MySQL through
their acquisition by Sun (and then Oracle), and was r
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 04:29:20PM +0200, Gabor Hojtsy wrote:
> >cvs.php.net/php-master-web has the code (index.php, group.php, etc).
> >These print out the links.
>
> Uhm, ehm, php-news-web
> >>>
> >>>I see. Well, go ahead i'd say ;-)
> >>
> >>Could you please make the rewrite wor
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