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ave a code base that is still going
strong after 15 years without using any of those optional extras that have
been added to the language starting with PHP 5.
You call me a trouble maker - what trouble have I made and for whom?
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Am 01.01.2018 um 10:21 schrieb Tony Marston:
Any attempt to make typehinting (or type enforcement as it has now
become) is simply adding complications to the language which do not
provide benefits to the greater PHP
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Am 31.12.2017 um 11:24 schrieb Tony Marston:
Some of us are clever enough to write code that doesn't have those types
of bug in the first place. I developed my framework in PHP4 before type
hints even existed, and I
lt? No,
it does not.
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Am 30.12.2017 um 11:37 schrieb Lester Caine:
On 30/12/17 09:16, Tony Marston wrote:
You are missing the point. If an RFC is so badly written that someone
does not understand it, or understand what benefits
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You are missing the point. If an RFC is so badly written that someone
does not understand
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Am 29.12.2017 um 00:21 schrieb Larry Garfield:
Correct. Union types I've always seen presented
upposed to provide,
then there is no point in up-voting it. You may contrive a use case where it
provides a small benefit, but if that use case is so limited or so obscure
that it does not apply to a significant number of developers then that RFC
should be voted down simply because it does not provi
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?
You are assuming that everybody is using PSR-4. That is a wrong assumption
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PHP as a language should not assume that someone is using Composer
correctly.
Or even using Composer at all.
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bloat has a detrimental effect
on everybody who uses the language, and especially on the core developers
who have to maintain that bloat.
You stop telling me that you don't like my opinion and I will stop telling
you that I don't like your opinion.
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On 11/07/2017 02:21 AM, Tony Marston wrote:
Some things are so obvious that they do not need scientific proof.
Some things that appear obvious are incorrect, especially when bias enters.
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I was around when that happened, so I know what I'm talking about.
I'm not going to get into the whole
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it depends on the implementation and just beause you say so does not
prove anything and even if you
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"Kalle Sommer Nielsen" wrote in messa
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I fail to see how it offers "negative benefits to the vast number of
programmers who are happy with the language
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Hi Tony
2017-10-31 11:35 GMT+01:00 Tony Marston <tonymars...@hotmail.com>:
This strikes me as being nothing more than a micro-optimisation that does
no
it fails that test and
should be rejected.
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unnecessary complications that would
only benefit a small minority of programmers but would be to the detriment
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Am 25.09.2017 um 11:41 schrieb Tony Marston:
The fact that some people write "do_something" or "do_Something" or
"Do_Something" or even "DO_SOMETHING" and it points to a single
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Am 24.09.2017 um 11:36 schrieb Tony Marston:
If you wish to enforce case sensitivity in projects which you control
then go ahead. Just don't try to enforce it on everybody else.
that thread was about the PHP core
OK: MySQL has a switch to make table names, etc, case insensitive - but
enabling that means a lot of testing to ensure that nothing else breaks.
$$ I don't want to be rude about her, so maybe I ought to use a different
group
of clueless people, politicians perhaps ? :-)
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Am 22.09.2017 um 10:21 schrieb Tony Marston:
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Am 19.09.2017 um 11:24 schrieb Tony Marston:
If the single character "ß" represe
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Am 20.09.2017 um 11:30 schrieb Tony Marston:
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If the single character "ß" represe
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Am 19.09.2017 um 11:24 schrieb Tony Marston:
If the single character "ß" represents two "s" characters joined
together, then the uppercase equivalent should also be a single character
whi
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I have already acknowledged that the same word can have a different
meaning in a different context, so the word "china" ha
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There is no such thing as "Pissed with a capital 'P' means drunk" and
"pissed with a lowercase 'p' means unhappy"
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People keep telling me that switching between upper and lower case
for all character sets in the universe is not 100% simple because of
a sm
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Am 16.09.2017 um 11:36 schrieb Tony Marston:
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after i switched every piece of code i write the last 15 years tpo
strict-types, typhe-hints
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Am 15.09.2017 um 11:25 schrieb Tony Marston:
You are missing a third option - Microsoft languages
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Am 15.09.2017 um 11:12 schrieb Tony Marston:
I am not asking the world to slow down because I am
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Would this problem disappear by using UTF8 instead of the Turkish
character
set? If so then ten no other solution would be required.
No, the p
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Am 15.09.2017 um 11:25 schrieb Tony Marston:
You are missing a third option - Microsoft languages are case-preserving.
This is where the IDE ensures that every use of a word is automatically
switched to the case used
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Why is it not possible to identify a single upper and lower case variant
for every character in every character set?
Can't find the right unicode sta
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My argument is that far too many people have become used to case
insensitive software, and to remove this "feature" for no other reason
than the
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Am 15.09.2017 um 11:12 schrieb Tony Marston:
I am not asking the world to slow down because I am too lazy to change. I
am arguing that case insensitive software has been around for many
decades, and for some people
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>Iike how you map lower -> upper depends on how you encode characters.
Then use a single UNICODE character set where every character h
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>The light bulb was invented by an English man (Joseph Swan), the
>television by a
>Scott (John Logie Baird); so should the Brits and
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Far better that that
problem is taken away from the file system (which should b
me if
user-defined constants could only ever be in upper case as that would remove
any possible confusion between 'foo' and 'Foo'.
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Because the English-speaking world invented both computers and the
languages used to program them.
It was a German tha
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>On 14 September 2017 13:59:20 BS
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>On 14.
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A minor detail. Windows followed all the previous OSes which I had
used in being case insensitive, which makes unix the odd one ou
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Why should the
English-speaking world be forced to suffer just because some minor
languages
cannot han
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Introducing case sensitivity into what is mostly a case-insensitive
world just for the convenience of a few programmers I do not consi
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Then unix came along and FUBAR'd everything. Any advantages of case
sensitive systems are ALWAYS outweighed by their disadvantages.
Unix predat
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If the first programming languages in the first computers were case
insensitive, then that should be the standard.
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People who think that case sensitive software is cool are deluding
themselves. When I
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You seem to forget that autoloading is an option, not a requirement. I
don't use auto
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People who think that case sensitive software is cool are deluding
themselves. When I
did not understand the ramifications of their choice.
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example who is now complaining about issues with the switch statement.
If what you want to achieve can be done better with a series of if/elseif
statements than the switch statement, then why can't you use if/elseif
instead of making the language more complicated?
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ing from my implementation.
If there are any developers out there who think that secondary validation
can be automated I can only say "dream on".
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ike this exists in another language is no reason
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Nothing on that website can possibly be classed
as "sensitive" so what would be the point?
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s
implemented then I'm afraid that code will look too much like a bunch of
hieroglyphics and become far less readable.
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Em 11 de jul de 2017 12:15 PM, "Mark Shust" <m...@shust.com> escreveu:
Hello,
I wanted to garnish feedback on a RFC
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Seriously, can you explain in words of one syllable the precise
benefits of
such a consistency?
I will try:
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If there was never a standard to begin
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If there was never a standard to begin with then there should be proper
justification for introducing one now, and I'm afraid that "to be
consistent" is not a vali
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Tony,
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wrote:
they should not be forced to change just because some nerd has made a
unilateral decision which is way above his
ction of alternatives, but that does not give anyone the right to now
say that it has become the standard and should be enforced. That strikes me
as being dictatorial and authoritarian, as well as requiring large amounts
of effort without offering any tangible benefits. I'm "consistency"
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I object to some young nerd arriving on the scene
Please don't make derogatory comments.
A m
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I should point out
and lower case, so an
upper case character was used instead of an underscore. That limitation of
the size of names no longer exists in any modern software, so the continued
use of CamelCase is out of habit and not necessity.
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case we can and should ignore them, but in this case we actually already
have a policy, it is just incomplete and I am asking to complete it. ;)
Who determined that the existing policy is incomplete?
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Different
projects/teams/organisations are free to use whatever naming convention
they
like, be it snake
not require any sort of solution.
There are more important changes which can be made to the language other
than changing it to comply with someone's personal preferences, so this
ridiculous idea should be kicked into the long grass.
Just my personal opinion.
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However, it should be a very conscious choice and none that is taken
lightly: meaning rules!
Introducing a new rule which breaks code that has been running happily for
the past 15 years sounds like a bad idea to me. VERY bad.
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find out what it means. Those
who want a language with hieroglyphic syntax should go back to Perl, but
please leave PHP alone!
Anybody who is in favour of such a bad move deserves to have their keyboard
confiscated and to be sent to bed without any supper.
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les that I have read since 2002) to put each function into its own
file.
Autoloading classes might be practical and easily implemented, but
autoloading functions is a can of worms, especially when you throw in
namespaces. I neither need nor want it in my code.
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I actually group my functions together in three files, not one.
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m stepping through code with the debugger in my IDE it
shows each file of a separate tab, and being forced to jump around from one
tab to another would drive me crazy.
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are there?
I do not see the point in this RFC.
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t nothing
can be changed. I can imagine lots of people reading from $errorcontext, but
how many actually write? I certainly don't.
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>To: Tony Marston
>Cc: Sherif Ramadan ; Stanislav Malyshev ; internals@lists.php.net
>Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace with composer/pickle
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>On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Tony Marston <tonymars...@hotma
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>On 09/11/2016 10:47 AM, Tony Marston wrote:
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>On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 4:47 AM, Tony Marston <tonymars...@hotmail.com>
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>Hi!
>
>> You seem to think that any opinion which differs from yours is wrong,
>> and you try to dism
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>2016. szept. 9. 10:44 ezt írta ("Tony Marston" <tonymars...@hotmail.com>):
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>> There should be a rule that nothing can be deprecated unless there is a
>> viable, stable,
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>On Sep 8, 2016 3:05 PM, "Tony Marston" <tonymars...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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