Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-10-25 Thread Pierre Joye
hi! On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Eric Stenson erics...@microsoft.com wrote: From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com] [Pierre said:] It is still the case. I for one would like to kill all the legacy features or too specific features which are really unusable by any

RE: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-10-24 Thread Eric Stenson
From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com] [Pierre said:] It is still the case. I for one would like to kill all the legacy features or too specific features which are really unusable by any common developers. Other developers may disagree but it makes very hard to maintain

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-05 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Tom, On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Tom Boutell t...@punkave.com wrote: Hmm, but the stat=0 optimization is a major one; a cache that didn't offer it would be significantly slower in production for those who know what they're doing, yes? yes and no, really depends on the codes. However

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-04 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Rasmus, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com wrote: On 07/03/2012 08:17 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: I for one would like to kill all the legacy features or too specific features which are really unusable by any common developers. Other developers may disagree but

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-04 Thread Antony Dovgal
On 2012-07-03 20:49, Arvids Godjuks wrote: One one side it's good to know i'm not wrong, on the other hand it's sad in this case. Sure about one thing - xcache is worth looking at and may be a better choise than APC and has better potential. One thing sure - I haven't heard anyone complaining

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-04 Thread Tom Boutell
Hmm, but the stat=0 optimization is a major one; a cache that didn't offer it would be significantly slower in production for those who know what they're doing, yes? (I haven't actually tried the stat=0 trick myself yet and don't have performance numbers on its impact. I really ought to though,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-04 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 07/04/2012 07:37 AM, Tom Boutell wrote: Hmm, but the stat=0 optimization is a major one; a cache that didn't offer it would be significantly slower in production for those who know what they're doing, yes? Depends on your code. For people who write code that needs to include hundreds, or

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-04 Thread Tom Boutell
Heh... passing a little judgment there on the design of frameworks, ORMs, etc. are we? On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com wrote: On 07/04/2012 07:37 AM, Tom Boutell wrote: Hmm, but the stat=0 optimization is a major one; a cache that didn't offer it would be

[PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Tom Boutell
This one: *** glibc detected *** /usr/local/bin/php-cgi: double free or corruption (out): 0x7f9d6ce2c080 *** === Backtrace: = /lib/libc.so.6(+0x77806)[0x7f9d679be806] /lib/libc.so.6(cfree+0x73)[0x7f9d679c50d3] /usr/local/bin/php-cgi(destroy_zend_class+0x23d)[0x749f5d]

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 07/03/2012 07:13 AM, Tom Boutell wrote: This one: *** glibc detected *** /usr/local/bin/php-cgi: double free or corruption (out): 0x7f9d6ce2c080 *** === Backtrace: = /lib/libc.so.6(+0x77806)[0x7f9d679be806] /lib/libc.so.6(cfree+0x73)[0x7f9d679c50d3]

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Tom Boutell
Given the impracticality of using PHP without APC, it would be nice if it were part of the main if these fail, it's not ready test suite. But I suppose that's just administering beatings until morale improves (: On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com wrote: On

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Tom, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Tom Boutell t...@punkave.com wrote: Given the impracticality of using PHP without APC, it would be nice if it were part of the main if these fail, it's not ready test suite. But I suppose that's just administering beatings until morale improves (:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.com wrote: There are alternative opcode cachers besides APC. For example xcache, for me, just works when APC is still catching up. I remember someone writing about APC that it is overly compex internally and due to that

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Arvids Godjuks
There are alternative opcode cachers besides APC. For example xcache, for me, just works when APC is still catching up. I remember someone writing about APC that it is overly compex internally and due to that hard to keep up with the changes in the PHP, maybe that is not the case now. But looking

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Anthony Ferrara
Pierre, It is still the case. I for one would like to kill all the legacy features or too specific features which are really unusable by any common developers. Other developers may disagree but it makes very hard to maintain APC. Perhaps that indicates it's time to pull the core of APC

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Lester Caine
It is still the case. I for one would like to kill all the legacy features or too specific features which are really unusable by any common developers. Other developers may disagree but it makes very hard to maintain APC. Perhaps that indicates it's time to pull the core of APC

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Tom Boutell
The ability to store your own data in the APC cache is a feature that does get used a lot in the Symfony framework world because of the availability of the sfAPCCache and whatever its Symfony 2 equivalent is. It's popular with folks who haven't felt the need to set up Redis or some other external

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 07/03/2012 08:17 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: I for one would like to kill all the legacy features or too specific features which are really unusable by any common developers. Other developers may disagree but it makes very hard to maintain APC. There are really just two big features in APC.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Arvids Godjuks
One one side it's good to know i'm not wrong, on the other hand it's sad in this case. Sure about one thing - xcache is worth looking at and may be a better choise than APC and has better potential. One thing sure - I haven't heard anyone complaining about xcache. And heard many complains about

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
On 07/03/2012 09:49 AM, Arvids Godjuks wrote: One one side it's good to know i'm not wrong, on the other hand it's sad in this case. Sure about one thing - xcache is worth looking at and may be a better choise than APC and has better potential. One thing sure - I haven't heard anyone

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Arvids Godjuks
Just to be clear - all 3 major opcode cachers i know (zend optimizer excluded - have no idea what he has) have that shared memory cache with almost identical API. Some have extended functionality (xcache has xcache_isset(), haven't seen that in others, but have to confess i haven't been looking

Re: [PHP-DEV] Is the fix for #61238 in PHP 5.4.4 pecl yet?

2012-07-03 Thread Arvids Godjuks
Could be, xcache is definetly dummer in features and it is its feature. I guess it helps it to keep up with releases. I will investigate this today, maybe get some interesting results worth to share here. 03.07.2012 16:54 пользователь Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com написал: On 07/03/2012