Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-16 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 16.07.2008, at 16:13, Christopher Jones wrote: Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > > On 16.07.2008, at 00:50, Christopher Jones wrote: > >> > We could still support older Oracle versions with an optional >> > download. If we want to be super fancy, we might even include a note >> > in an error m

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-16 Thread Christopher Jones
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > > On 16.07.2008, at 00:50, Christopher Jones wrote: > >> > We could still support older Oracle versions with an optional >> > download. If we want to be super fancy, we might even include a note >> > in an error message when trying to connect to older versions that >>

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-15 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 16.07.2008, at 00:50, Christopher Jones wrote: > We could still support older Oracle versions with an optional > download. If we want to be super fancy, we might even include a note > in an error message when trying to connect to older versions that > there is pdo_oci8 available as an option

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-15 Thread Christopher Jones
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > > On 15.07.2008, at 23:09, Christopher Jones wrote: > >> >> Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >> >> > In our dreams someone would also make PDO a focus area, since the >> number >> > of open bugs is getting ridiculous. This is also a call to the general >> > community to try an

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-15 Thread Christopher Jones
Daniel Convissor wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 02:09:33PM -0700, Christopher Jones wrote: For PHP 5.3 on, I'd be happy to see the Windows builds of PDO_OCI only produce php_pdo_oci.dll and no longer also build php_pdo_oci8.dll. The latter uses an older set of Oracle client libraries that allo

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-15 Thread Daniel Convissor
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 02:09:33PM -0700, Christopher Jones wrote: > > For PHP 5.3 on, I'd be happy to see the Windows builds of PDO_OCI only > produce php_pdo_oci.dll and no longer also build php_pdo_oci8.dll. > The latter uses an older set of Oracle client libraries that allows > connections to

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-15 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 15.07.2008, at 23:09, Christopher Jones wrote: Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > In our dreams someone would also make PDO a focus area, since the number > of open bugs is getting ridiculous. This is also a call to the general > community to try and help to find a PDO maintainer. In the mean

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-15 Thread Christopher Jones
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > In our dreams someone would also make PDO a focus area, since the number > of open bugs is getting ridiculous. This is also a call to the general > community to try and help to find a PDO maintainer. In the mean time > people not adapt in C might at least try and plow

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Ulf Wendel
Hi Lars! Lars Strojny schrieb: Is there a way to checkout the source. I would love to test PDO_MYSQLND. Not yet. Andrey will need a day or so. I've CC'd him. He can post instructions here. The internal mysqlnd repostory, which includes the code for PDO_MYSQLND, was among the first to be mi

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 14.07.2008, at 14:20, Ulf Wendel wrote: Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: there are also a few in PECL: http://pecl.php.net/bugs/search.php?cmd=display&status=Open&package_name []=PDO_mysql Ok, that's PDO_MYSQL. We checked both pecl.php.net and php.net bug lists. Are there any plans to improv

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Ulf Wendel
Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: there are also a few in PECL: http://pecl.php.net/bugs/search.php?cmd=display&status=Open&package_name[]=PDO_mysql Ok, that's PDO_MYSQL. We checked both pecl.php.net and php.net bug lists. Are there any plans to improve the PHP bug systems to allow: - prioritizin

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 14.07.2008, at 13:59, Ulf Wendel wrote: Jani Taskinen schrieb: Well, connection issues using mysqlnd seems to be pretty commonly reported, like this: http://bugs.php.net/45468 Aaah, you're talking about mysqlnd @ ext/mysql[i] - different story altogether. There are 20 open reports

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Ulf Wendel
Jani Taskinen schrieb: Well, connection issues using mysqlnd seems to be pretty commonly reported, like this: http://bugs.php.net/45468 Aaah, you're talking about mysqlnd @ ext/mysql[i] - different story altogether. There are 20 open reports currently: http://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Lars Strojny
Hi Ulf, Am Montag, den 14.07.2008, 13:30 +0200 schrieb Ulf Wendel: [...] > Cross platform testing has been performed on: > > AIX 5.3 ppc64 > FC4 x86 > FreeBSD 6 x86, x86_64 > HP UX 11.23 ia64 > MacOS X 10.4 ppc32, x86 > RHEL 3 ia64, x86, x86_64 > RHEL 4 ia64, x86, x86_64 > SLES 9 ia64, x86, x86_6

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Jani Taskinen
Well, connection issues using mysqlnd seems to be pretty commonly reported, like this: http://bugs.php.net/45468 There are 20 open reports currently: http://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=display&bug_type[]=MySQL+related&bug_type[]=MySQLi+related&status=Open&order_by=id&phpver=5&limit=50 I don't

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Ulf Wendel
Jani Taskinen schrieb: Ulf Wendel wrote: We did a tough development sprint in the last weeks to make the patch "ready" for the tentative PHP 5.3 release plan. Our internal release plan shows no coding between Beta and GA but fixing newly reported bugs. What about the already reported (a.k.a

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Ulf Wendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The PDO_MYSQLND extension, as I call it, is a patched PDO_MYSQL extension. > PDO_MYSQLND is on the TODO list [1]. Yes, why this point has been raised here. > I hardly ever blogged about PDO_MYSQLND as a patch, althoug

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Lester Caine
Stefan Esser wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lester, I wonder if you could enlight us, why you hate ext/mysql? Do you believe the urban legend that smaller .exe/.dll are loaded faster? Maybe you have never heard of shared code segments... Every readable only segment

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Jani Taskinen
Ulf Wendel wrote: We did a tough development sprint in the last weeks to make the patch "ready" for the tentative PHP 5.3 release plan. Our internal release plan shows no coding between Beta and GA but fixing newly reported bugs. What about the already reported (a.k.a. "old") bugs? :) --Jan

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Ulf Wendel
Lukas Kahwe Smith schrieb: On 14.07.2008, at 11:29, Ulf Wendel wrote: Lars Strojny schrieb: Hi Lukas, hi Johannes, Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 11:59 +0200 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith: - MySQLnd what's with PDO MySQLnd, will it be part of 5.3? [snip] Johannes is working on a 3-stars chang

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
On 14.07.2008, at 11:29, Ulf Wendel wrote: Lars Strojny schrieb: Hi Lukas, hi Johannes, Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 11:59 +0200 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith: - MySQLnd what's with PDO MySQLnd, will it be part of 5.3? We did a tough development sprint in the last weeks to make the patch "r

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Ulf Wendel
Lars Strojny schrieb: Hi Lukas, hi Johannes, Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 11:59 +0200 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith: - MySQLnd what's with PDO MySQLnd, will it be part of 5.3? The PDO_MYSQLND extension, as I call it, is a patched PDO_MYSQL extension. PDO_MYSQLND is on the TODO list [1]. I har

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-14 Thread Stefan Esser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lester, I wonder if you could enlight us, why you hate ext/mysql? Do you believe the urban legend that smaller .exe/.dll are loaded faster? Maybe you have never heard of shared code segments... Every readable only segment is shared on windows.

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-13 Thread Lars Strojny
Hi Lester, Am Montag, den 14.07.2008, 07:35 +0100 schrieb Lester Caine: > Perhaps that is another reason for getting my customers over to Linux > on the servers :) If this is true, we should definitely leave it that way :) cu, Lars signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nac

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-13 Thread Lester Caine
Pierre Joye wrote: hi Lars, Johannes, Lukas, On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Pierre Joye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Lars, 2008/7/13 Lars Strojny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Lukas, hi Johannes, Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 11:59 +0200 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith: - MySQLnd what's with PDO MySQ

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-13 Thread Pierre Joye
hi Lars, Johannes, Lukas, On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Pierre Joye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Lars, > > 2008/7/13 Lars Strojny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi Lukas, hi Johannes, >> >> Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 11:59 +0200 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith: >>> - MySQLnd >> >> what's with PDO MySQLn

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-13 Thread Pierre Joye
Hi Lars, 2008/7/13 Lars Strojny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Lukas, hi Johannes, > > Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 11:59 +0200 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith: >> - MySQLnd > > what's with PDO MySQLnd, will it be part of 5.3? It is the case already. All MySql extension uses ext/mysqlnd by default (at least

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-13 Thread Lars Strojny
Hi Lukas, hi Johannes, Am Freitag, den 11.07.2008, 11:59 +0200 schrieb Lukas Kahwe Smith: > - MySQLnd what's with PDO MySQLnd, will it be part of 5.3? cu, Lars signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil

RE: Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-12 Thread Andi Gutmans
I am sure Dmitry will be happy to help out on that on Monday. Andi > -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Bergmann > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 7:32 AM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5

Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-12 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: Note that we moved closures into 5.3. Awesome! Too make testing closures in PHP_5_3 easy, the current state of closures should be merged ASAP from HEAD to the branch. The patch that in linked from the wiki is out of sync with HEAD AFACIS. Thanks! Sebastian -- Seba

[PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan

2008-07-11 Thread Lukas Kahwe Smith
Hello all, Over the last week we have collected todo/wishlist items for PHP 5.3 [1]. We have tried to get in contact with all the known stakeholders and we have we have gotten enough information from you all that our release plan will be more than tentative, but you never know and common