applicability of optimistic DAD (Re: optimistic dad comments)

2004-06-08 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
(I'm going to concentrate on one specific issue, so I've changed the subject.) > On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 08:03:18 +0300 (EEST), > Pekka Savola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > > What might be useful is specifying with which kind of addresses >> > > oDAD should be assumed: [...] Manual addresses

Re: optimistic dad comments

2004-06-08 Thread Nick 'Sharkey' Moore
On 2004-06-09, JINMEI Tatuya / [EMAIL PROTECTED]@C#:H wrote: > "Nick 'Sharkey' Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > [Pekka Savola wrote:] > > > > > > 3) IMHO, section 3.3 on Address Generation is largely redundant or downright > > > inappropriate. It describes a few useful things, but also goes on

Re: optimistic dad comments

2004-06-08 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 16:16:03 +1000, > "Nick 'Sharkey' Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> 3) IMHO, section 3.3 on Address Generation is largely redundant or downright >> inappropriate. It describes a few useful things, but also goes on to >> specify how to regenerate the addresses if a

Re: (resend) [rfc2462bis] prefix length check for existing addresses

2004-06-08 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 11:19:24 -0700 (PDT), > Erik Nordmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> It seems to me that this specification allows (e.g.,) the prefix >> "::/0" to update the lifetimes all existing addresses (which may even >> include link-local addresses), since ::/0 matches any addres

RE: WLAN (was Re: IPv6 Host Configuration of Recursive DNS Server)

2004-06-08 Thread Erik Nordmark
> The only standard solution so far is to treat these networks as NBMA, > i.e. on the router for ND. This is not satisfactory, because it places a > lot of burden on the router and also because it leaves out ad hoc > networks. There is a middle ground since ND can be configured to have the router

Re: (resend) [rfc2462bis] prefix length check for existing addresses

2004-06-08 Thread Erik Nordmark
> It seems to me that this specification allows (e.g.,) the prefix > "::/0" to update the lifetimes all existing addresses (which may even > include link-local addresses), since ::/0 matches any addresses. > > Is this the intended behavior? I believe not, and if not, shouldn't > the specification

RE: WLAN (was Re: IPv6 Host Configuration of Recursive DNS Server)

2004-06-08 Thread Christian Huitema
> >>I know ND is wrong. That is, I know it is wrong to have generic > >>link protocols ignoring link specific properties and has been > >>pondering on how such protocols suffer. > > > I think ND is not wrong. > > ND is wrong, because it was designed to be applicable to all the > link types. The

Re: WLAN (was Re: IPv6 Host Configuration of Recursive DNS Server)

2004-06-08 Thread George Gross
Hi, unreliable flooding of control/routing packets is a long standing problem in the MANET working group [1]. Recently the MANET working group formed a design team that will tackle this problem among others that arise when extending OSPF for wireless media. AFAIK, their design will be IP-v

Protocol Action: 'Management Information Base for the Internet Protocol (IP)' to Proposed Standard

2004-06-08 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Management Information Base for the Internet Protocol (IP) ' as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the IP Version 6 Working Group Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Margaret Wasserman and Thomas Narten. Technical Su

Re: WLAN (was Re: IPv6 Host Configuration of Recursive DNS Server)

2004-06-08 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Pekka, I'm not sure where this may lead, but... - Original Message - From: Pekka Savola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2004 11:05 pm Subject: Re: WLAN (was Re: IPv6 Host Configuration of Recursive DNS Server) > Tailed down mailing lists to just IPv6 WG list.. > > On Tue

Re: (resend) [rfc2462bis] prefix length check for existing addresses

2004-06-08 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:07:41 +0900, > JINMEI Tatuya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It seems to me that this specification allows (e.g.,) the prefix > "::/0" to update the lifetimes all existing addresses (which may even > include link-local addresses), since ::/0 matches any addresses. >

Re: WLAN (was Re: IPv6 Host Configuration of Recursive DNS Server)

2004-06-08 Thread Pekka Savola
Tailed down mailing lists to just IPv6 WG list.. On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Masataka Ohta wrote: > Mohacsi Janos wrote: > ND is wrong, because it was designed to be applicable to all the > link types. > > ND deployed multicast only because some ATM guy said NBMA was > capable of not broadcast but multic

Re: WLAN (was Re: IPv6 Host Configuration of Recursive DNS Server)

2004-06-08 Thread Mohacsi Janos
Hi Masataka, On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Masataka Ohta wrote: > Dear all; > > The problem is rather generic than DNS configuration. But... > > I know ND is wrong. That is, I know it is wrong to have generic > link protocols ignoring link specific properties and has been > pondering on how such protocols

Re: optimistic dad comments

2004-06-08 Thread Nick 'Sharkey' Moore
On 2004-05-31, Pekka Savola wrote: > Below are my comments on draft-ietf-ipv6-optimistic-dad-00.txt. PS: I've started an Issues List at: http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/ipv6/fastho/opti_dad_issues.html although it isn't very organized or complete yet. I'll be updating it over the next few

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-06-08 Thread Pekka Savola
I was hoping others would comment, but maybe not. Inline.. On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Bob Hinden wrote: > >Subcases 1) and 3) are too loose. Just make it 'IETF Consensus', > >'IESG Approval', or 'IESG Approval with Specification Required'. > > > >We really don't need a land-rush for ICMP types/codes. O

WLAN (was Re: IPv6 Host Configuration of Recursive DNS Server)

2004-06-08 Thread Masataka Ohta
Dear all; The problem is rather generic than DNS configuration. But... I know ND is wrong. That is, I know it is wrong to have generic link protocols ignoring link specific properties and has been pondering on how such protocols suffer. I just recently noticed that WLAN (802.11*) is not very goo