[Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-carpenter-obsolete-1888-00.txt]

2004-08-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
This draft obsoletes the OSI addressing format for IPv6. Comments welcome. Brian Original Message Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-carpenter-obsolete-1888-00.txt Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:18:40 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A New

Re: comments from Steve Bellovin on draft-ietf-ipv6-scoping-arch-01.txt

2004-08-17 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 11:20:53 +0200, Francis Dupont [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In your previous mail you wrote: Please let me check...are you saying something like this? The proposed text says: unqualified IP addresses cannot safely be used for IKE negotiation. =

Re: NUD and solicitated Router Advertisement ?

2004-08-17 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 10:31:32 +1000, Greg Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Basically, I don't have a strong opinion on this. As you mentioned, this is, even if justified, a very minor optimization (in fact, I even don't know of a router implementation that supports and does unicast RAs). So,

Re: Stateful != M , Stateless != O

2004-08-17 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
(coming back to the root of this discussion...) On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:17:31 +1000, Greg Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think that's one of the issues. It leads to the idea that M|O = 1 can be used to invoke Information-Request. So in this case, the policy shouldn't be called M policy

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-05.txt

2004-08-17 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
Some quick clarifications: On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:43:04 +0100, Elwyn Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The confusion around stateful, 3315 and 3736 has been discussed at length elsewhere. Sorry, I don't understand the point. Could you be more specific on what you want? I guess you

RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-05.txt

2004-08-17 Thread Elwyn Davies
Title: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2462bis-05.txt Hi. I'll try to clarify ... British reserve showing;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 August 2004 14:45 To: Davies, Elwyn [HAL02:0S00:EXCH] Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Re: Section 2.4, item (f) of draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-08-17 Thread Alex Conta
Pekka Savola wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Alex Conta wrote: You may have an assumption that the rate-limiting would have to be a percentage of the interface speed. That's (IMHO) a bad strategy, exactly why you describe: it doesn't handle fast/slow interfaces appropriately. This is a

Re: Section 2.4, item (f) of draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-08-17 Thread Pekka Savola
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Fred Templin wrote: You are side-stepping my question and twisting it into a matter of what is currently done vs. what is best. What is our goal here: to get IPv6 deployed in the right way, or to preserve the legacy deployed IPv6 base? No, I'm not sidestepping. I think

Re: Section 2.4, item (f) of draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-08-17 Thread Pekka Savola
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Alex Conta wrote: Depends on what you want to achieve with the rate-limiting. I pointed you to the LINUX and CISCO examples. I expect to achieve nothing different than the LINUX and CISCO implementers/users expect. The one sentence text suggested for the ICMP specs

Re: pls read the specs Re: Section 2.4, item (f) of draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-04.txt

2004-08-17 Thread Pekka Savola
I will not respond to your other message as you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the context of the word send in the rate-limiter specification, so any discussion about that would be useless. See the clarification below: On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Alex Conta wrote: Please read the specs

Re: Stateful != M , Stateless != O

2004-08-17 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Jinmei, JINMEI Tatuya / wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:15:48 +0200, Stig Venaas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why? In this (i.e., the latter) scenario, does M=1/O=0 simply mean that (Solicit/Advertise/Request/Reply and)Rebind/Renew/Request is available but Information Request is not? Perhaps

RE: M=1/O=0 is not valid in full 3315 ?

2004-08-17 Thread S. Daniel Park
I disagree with the host should use part of this statement. We reached a consensus on this point in previous discussion. The consensus is the M=1 flag indicates that the host MAY use the stateful protocol for address autoconfiguration -- i.e., that this protocol is available should the host