Re: Revised address selection preference API draft-chakrabarti-ipv6-addrselect-api-04

2006-10-26 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Hello, This is all a matter of being consistent with the Advanced IPv6 API, and with the established practice in POSIX world. Pretty much every setsockopt uses int, unless it has very peculiar reason not to do so. Using something else will only confuse people, and add a (minor) extra

a quick question about RIPng

2006-10-26 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
Hello, I have one quick question about RIPng. Section 2.4.1 of RFC2080 says as follows: The Request is processed entry by entry. [... ...] Examine the list of RTEs in the Request one by one. For each entry, look up the destination in the router's routing database and, if there is a

Re: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Vlad Yasevich
Julien Laganier wrote: Hi Vlad, On Wednesday 25 October 2006 18:22, Vlad Yasevich wrote: So, yes, there is a reason to prefer a configured address over a stateless autoconf one. Same argument applies with DHCPv6 configured addresses. [...] Also, this preference really depends on the

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Durand, Alain
-Original Message- From: Vlad Yasevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:58 AM To: Julien Laganier Cc: ipv6@ietf.org; Durand, Alain Subject: Re: address selection and DHCPv6 The concept that a DHCP address is more stable then EUI64 base address is

Re: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Ralph Droms
Adding a little detail to Alain's comments - all three flavors of DUID are, in fact, defined in RFC 3315 to be stable for the lifetime of the host, independent of any changes to MAC addresses. Therefore, address assignment via DHCPv6 can be controlled by the DHCPv6 server to assign a stable

Re: humid IPv6 addresses

2006-10-26 Thread Pars Mutaf
Hi folks (sorry for popping up), FYI, based on comments I have very much simplified the humid draft. You can find it here until it appears in the I-D rep.: http://www.freewebs.com/pmutaf/draft-mutaf-ipv6humid-02.txt Usage scenario is ad-hoc network now. All references to infrastructure DNS,

Re: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread James Carlson
Vlad Yasevich writes: The concept that a DHCP address is more stable then EUI64 base address is flawed in my opinion. Both depend on a piece of hardware that can fail or be changed. That's incorrect. See RFC 3315 -- DUIDs are required to be stable, even if the hardware is changed. I guess

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Bernie Volz \(volz\)
Whatever technique you use will likely never guarantee a completely stable address. Manually assigned is just as good (or bad) as DHCPv6 because both depend on some type of stable storage (so yes there is hardware associated with it). (Well, I guess you could always rely on a human to type in the

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread James Carlson
Bernie Volz (volz) writes: Whatever technique you use will likely never guarantee a completely stable address. Manually assigned is just as good (or bad) as DHCPv6 because both depend on some type of stable storage (so yes there is hardware associated with it). (Well, I guess you could

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Durand, Alain
The question is not to get an absolutely stable address, but to make sure that in case multiple addresses are defined, the one with the highest likelyhood of stability is selected. - Alain. -Original Message- From: Bernie Volz (volz) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Manfredi, Albert E
Except that from what others have said, that might not be the desired goal. Perhaps for privacy or other reasons, a most stable address choice might not be optimal. I originally thought that would be the best choice, but ... Bert -Original Message- From: Durand, Alain [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Gray, Eric
Alain, Please see my clarification question below... -- Eric -- -Original Message- -- From: Durand, Alain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:00 PM -- To: Bernie Volz (volz); James Carlson; Vlad Yasevich -- Cc: ipv6@ietf.org -- Subject: RE: address

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Bernie Volz \(volz\)
I would think that how an address is assigned shouldn't enter into this. I can't see that it matters. What really matters is the lifetimes associated with the address. The longest lifetime address is probably the best to use since it is the most stable. [Ignoring privacy and other related

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread James Carlson
Gray, Eric writes: -- The question is not to get an absolutely stable address, -- but to make sure that in case multiple addresses are defined, -- the one with the highest likelyhood of stability is selected. When you say highest likelihood of stability - is what you really mean

Re: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Stig Venaas
Bernie Volz (volz) wrote: I would think that how an address is assigned shouldn't enter into this. I can't see that it matters. What really matters is the lifetimes associated with the address. The longest lifetime address is probably the best to use since it is the most stable. [Ignoring

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Bernie Volz \(volz\)
But, in these cases both addresses are stateless so using how the address was assigned would still not resolve the issue. So, that is a related, but separate issue? Probably the only solution to that is to have some stickiness factor where a host continues to favor that address for a period of

Re: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Durand, Alain
I've been thinking some more about Bernie's point. In theory it should not, but in pratical operation, it does matter where the config information is coming from. The ops people in charge of routers are not the same as the one in charge of servers (DHCP included) ... and the last thing I'd like

Re: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Ralph Droms
There is an operational issue - anecdotal, perhaps not of interest - that I've heard of. It's related to Alain's observation of who runs routers and who runs the DHCP server. Anyway, the issue is that, in the case of router misconfiguration, it may be the case that hosts unexpectedly take on new

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread James Carlson
Bernie Volz (volz) writes: I would think that how an address is assigned shouldn't enter into this. I can't see that it matters. It matters only in that different assignment mechanisms have different inherent stabilities: manual: forever DHCPv6: until the lifetime expires and

Question about on-link in RFC2461(bis)

2006-10-26 Thread Templin, Fred L
I have a question about on-link determination for IPv6 ND. (RFC2461(bis), Section 2.1) has the following definition for on-link: on-link - an address that is assigned to an interface on a specified link. A node considers an address to be on- link if: - it

RE: address selection and DHCPv6

2006-10-26 Thread Christian Huitema
It matters only in that different assignment mechanisms have different inherent stabilities: manual: forever DHCPv6: until the lifetime expires and the server refuses to renew stateless: until the network interface hardware is swapped There is no