Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-03-08 Thread Seiichi Kawamura
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Doug Thanks. I think I get a few more chances at fixing editorial stuff. I'll be sure to remember these. Regards, Seiichi Doug Barton wrote: > On 3/5/2010 4:07 PM, Seiichi Kawamura wrote: >> Hi Jari >> >> ..resending. this time making sure its to

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
On 3/5/2010 4:07 PM, Seiichi Kawamura wrote: Hi Jari ..resending. this time making sure its to the 6man list... I think the points rasied at the IESG teltechat have been cleared and the 6man WG feels comfortable with the latest version of the draft. Will this be placed on the agenda of the next

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-03-05 Thread Seiichi Kawamura
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jari ..resending. this time making sure its to the 6man list... I think the points rasied at the IESG teltechat have been cleared and the 6man WG feels comfortable with the latest version of the draft. Will this be placed on the agenda of the next

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-08 Thread Ron Bonica
+1 Lars Eggert wrote: > Hi, > > what Bob outlines below is pretty exactly what I thought the intent of this > ID was supposed to be, and going in this direction would certainly address my > discuss. > > Lars > > On 2010-2-5, at 22:47, Bob Hinden wrote: > >> Jari, >> >>> Then we talked about

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-08 Thread Seiichi Kawamura
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Ralph Ralph Droms wrote: > Seiichi - I agree that (1) and (2) are appropriate goals for this draft > and that those two goals have different requirement levels. > > It seems to me that there is value in describing the representation and > the appl

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-08 Thread Ralph Droms
Seiichi - I agree that (1) and (2) are appropriate goals for this draft and that those two goals have different requirement levels. It seems to me that there is value in describing the representation and the application of the standard can be separated, so that the representation itself is

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-08 Thread Seiichi Kawamura
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Bob There's two things this document asks for. (1) for people to document IPv6 address in the recommended way. (2) implementations to display(or save to text/log) IPv6 addresses in the recommended way. (1) can never become a MUST. (2), yes but n

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-08 Thread Seiichi Kawamura
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Finally catching up to the thread... It is mentioned in the Appendix that inet_ntop is a good code reference. There's also ipv6calc http://www.deepspace6.net/projects/ipv6calc.html Regards, Seiichi Jari Arkko wrote: > Mark, > >> ISC's inet_ntop() w

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-08 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, what Bob outlines below is pretty exactly what I thought the intent of this ID was supposed to be, and going in this direction would certainly address my discuss. Lars On 2010-2-5, at 22:47, Bob Hinden wrote: > Jari, > >> Then we talked about the strictness. I explained that this is larg

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-06 Thread Doug Barton
On 2/6/2010 1:40 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 2010-02-06 13:19, Bob Hinden wrote: >> Doug, >> >> On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> >>> On 2/5/2010 2:37 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Oh, OK, that is fine for conformance of course, but leaves things open when you are tal

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-06 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2010-02-06 13:19, Bob Hinden wrote: > Doug, > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 2/5/2010 2:37 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >>> Oh, OK, that is fine for conformance of course, but leaves things >>> open when you are talking about generating strings. If we want the >>> new

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-06 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Hi Brian, Brian E Carpenter wrote: [...] - Provide a reference to the currently defined WKPs - In the section that talks about ports, please make sure that for URIs everyone MUST follow RFC 3986, and for the rest, the default can be again RFC 3986. The current language leaves everything open, e

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-05 Thread Bob Hinden
Doug, On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 2/5/2010 2:37 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> Oh, OK, that is fine for conformance of course, but leaves things >> open when you are talking about generating strings. If we want the >> new recommendation to be a MUST, we may have to consid

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-05 Thread Doug Barton
On 2/5/2010 2:37 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Oh, OK, that is fine for conformance of course, but leaves things > open when you are talking about generating strings. If we want the > new recommendation to be a MUST, we may have to consider wording to > make it clear how widely it applies. Many ex

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-05 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2010-02-06 10:14, Роман Донченко wrote: > Brian E Carpenter писал в своём письме > Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:04:32 +0300: > >> Also, I just came across something "interesting". RFC 3986 cites RFC >> 2234. >> In the latter, we find >> HEXDIG = DIGIT / "A" / "B" / "C" / "D" / "E" / "F" >> Unf

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-05 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Bob, On 2010-02-06 09:47, Bob Hinden wrote: ... > I was thinking that we should have a strict canonical form > along the line of what is proposed in Section 8. This format > SHOULD always be used when an IPv6 address is saved to a file > or log as text (as opposed to binary). The canonical forma

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-05 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2010-02-06 10:09, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > Hi Brian, ... >> Also, I just came across something "interesting". RFC 3986 cites RFC >> 2234. >> In the latter, we find >> HEXDIG = DIGIT / "A" / "B" / "C" / "D" / "E" / "F" >> Unfortunately, that means that the URI format (and dependencies s

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-05 Thread Роман Донченко
Brian E Carpenter писал в своём письме Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:04:32 +0300: Also, I just came across something "interesting". RFC 3986 cites RFC 2234. In the latter, we find HEXDIG = DIGIT / "A" / "B" / "C" / "D" / "E" / "F" Unfortunately, that means that the URI format (and dependenci

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-05 Thread Brian E Carpenter
[repeating with the CC's this time] On 2010-02-06 01:53, Jari Arkko wrote: ... > - Use RFC 2119 language and MUST. Implementations conforming to this > specification MUST ... No real objection, but its impact of this change in the real world will be nil IMHO. > - Provide a reference to the curr

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-05 Thread Bob Hinden
Jari, > Then we talked about the strictness. I explained that this is largely a > specification style issue, and in the real world there will always be old > code that doesn't produce the canonical form, and that we hope that this RFC > will convince all new code to do the right thing. However,

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-05 Thread Jari Arkko
Mark, ISC's inet_ntop() was released in 1996 as part of BIND 8. It's also in BIND 9. Ah, great! Thanks for the information. Jari IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ie

Re: next steps with 6man-text-addr-representation

2010-02-05 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <4b6c14d2.60...@piuha.net>, Jari Arkko writes: > This draft was on the IESG review yesterday, and did not get approved > due to a number of Discusses from the other ADs. > > There's a number of small details that we can talk about separately, but > I wanted to talk to the working gro

RE: Next steps with

2005-02-15 Thread Dave Thaler
The ND Proxy Issues page at http://www.icir.org/dthaler/NDProxyIssues.htm has been updated with the new issues raised (16 through 22), as well as the comments received on each issue. Issue 19 (Experimental vs Information) is already closed as noted below, and does not affect the text. For the r