Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-15 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:53:07 +0900, JINMEI Tatuya [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Regarding issue 277 of rfc2462bis (Semantics of M/O flags), one controversial issue is how clearly we should specify the stateful address configuration protocol. The question actually consists of the following two

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-14 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 14-apr-04, at 12:48, Ralph Droms wrote: I think DHCPv6 ought to be cited as the protocol for other configuration information, as well. However, it seems to me the phrase stateful protocol for *other* configurations is a little misleading. I think the word stateful could be dropped. And

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-14 Thread Ralph Droms
I suggest dropping stateful from the description because of the potential for confusion inherent in providing a stateful protocol for *other* configurations with stateless DHCPv6 [RFC 3736]. This confusion arises from the unfortunate decision to differentiate RFC 2462 address assignment from

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-14 Thread Alain Durand
On Apr 14, 2004, at 3:48 AM, Ralph Droms wrote: Jinmei-san, I think DHCPv6 ought to be cited as the protocol for other configuration information, as well. This is the logical extension. However, it seems to me the phrase stateful protocol for *other* configurations is a little misleading. I

RE: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-14 Thread Christian Huitema
In any event, perhaps the best way to simplify the protocol would be to drop the O bit altogether. That is, make no attempt to control how a host goes about finding the additional configuration information. There was a brief discussion about this issue at an IPv6 WG interim meeting (Aug

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-14 Thread Ralph Droms
Followup on the meaning of stateless - one way to interpret stateless in the context of DHCPv6 is: does not require the maintenance of any dynamic state for individual clients (RFC 3736). The server does, of course, maintain configuration state and can make decisions about the response sent to

RE: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-14 Thread Soliman Hesham
Hi Ralph, I suggest dropping stateful from the description because of the potential for confusion inherent in providing a stateful protocol for *other* configurations with stateless DHCPv6 [RFC 3736]. = I don't find the words stateful and stateless confusing at all in this context. I

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-14 Thread Alain Durand
On Apr 14, 2004, at 10:11 AM, Ralph Droms wrote: Followup on the meaning of stateless - one way to interpret stateless in the context of DHCPv6 is: does not require the maintenance of any dynamic state for individual clients (RFC 3736). The server does, of course, maintain configuration state

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-14 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 14-apr-04, at 14:35, Ralph Droms wrote: I suggest dropping stateful from the description because of the potential for confusion inherent in providing a stateful protocol for *other* configurations with stateless DHCPv6 [RFC 3736]. This confusion arises from the unfortunate decision to

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-14 Thread Fred Templin
Ralph Droms wrote: Autonomous/managed or serverless/server-based might be more correct... If asked to vote on one of these two proposals, I would select autonomous/managed; a node that is autonomous in terms of address configuration might be a server for some other function unrealted to

Re :[rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-13 Thread PARK SOO HONG
Title: Samsung Enterprise Portal mySingle I second 1+X.AFAIC, from the beginning, this draft explicitly considered DHCPv6 (though it was not RFC)as a stateful mechanism.Stateful autoconfiguration is described in [DHCPv6].wrote in RFC1971, Aug. 1996. Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park) Mobile Platform

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-13 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 22:53:07 +0900, JINMEI Tatuya [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Regarding issue 277 of rfc2462bis (Semantics of M/O flags), one controversial issue is how clearly we should specify the stateful address configuration protocol. (forgot to mention this) in this message, I

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-13 Thread S. Daniel Park
I second 1+X. AFAIC, from the beginning, this draft explicitly considered DHCPv6 (though it was not RFC) as a stateful mechanism. Stateful autoconfiguration is described in [DHCPv6]. wrote in RFC1971, Aug. 1996. - Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park) - Mobile Platform Laboratory, Samsung Electronics.

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-13 Thread Alain Durand
JINMEI Tatuya / wrote: Question A: how should rfc2462bis specify the stateful protocol? possible answers: 1. clearly say that stateful address configuration is DHCPv6 2. (intentionally) do not say anything about this, and (implicitly or explicitly) leave it to the node requirements

Re: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-13 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-04-13, at 15.53, JINMEI Tatuya / wrote: Is there any other reason for not being clear on this (i.e., not clearly say the stateful protocol is DHCPv6)? Or is this just a matter of preference? I would prefer 2+Y. Simply to minimize

RE: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-13 Thread john . loughney
Hi all, Question A: how should rfc2462bis specify the stateful protocol? possible answers: 1. clearly say that stateful address configuration is DHCPv6 2. (intentionally) do not say anything about this, and (implicitly or explicitly) leave it to the node requirements document

RE: [rfc2462bis] what is the stateful configuration protocol

2004-04-13 Thread Bernie Volz
I'm for (1) DHCPv6 and a reference to RFC 3315 (X). - Bernie Volz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 3:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [rfc2462bis] what