Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-13 Thread Ralph Droms
sted by valid RAs, rouge RAs can't stop DHCPv6. - Bernie -Original Message- From: HYUN WOOK CHA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:41 PM To: Brian Haberman Cc: Ted Lemon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Bernie Volz (volz) Subject: Re: Re

RE: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-13 Thread Bernie Volz (volz)
gt; - Bernie > > -Original Message- > From: HYUN WOOK CHA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:41 PM > To: Brian Haberman > Cc: Ted Lemon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Bernie > Volz (volz) > Subject: Re: Re: Request for Advic

Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-13 Thread Brian Haberman
: Ted Lemon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Bernie Volz (volz) Subject: Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" Hello, Brian. As I presented last IETF 6MAN meeting, our draft aims to provide automatic revocation of DHCPv6 clients in cas

Re: Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-08 Thread Joseph Hyunwook Cha
g as current architecture(or situation) is supported, I still believe that our draft has value to provide a right guidance on the usage of M/O flags to implementors. Joseph --- Original Message --- Sender : James Carlson<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date : 2008-10-08 21:06 (GMT+09:00) Titl

Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-08 Thread Brian Haberman
(GMT+09:00) Title : Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" Joseph, to summarize, it sounds like you believe that the ability to stop DHCP clients broadcasting on a link is a requirement. And you therefore think that deprecating the M&O bits is not the

Re: RE: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-07 Thread HYUN WOOK CHA
l Message- From: HYUN WOOK CHA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:41 PM To: Brian Haberman Cc: Ted Lemon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Bernie Volz (volz) Subject: Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" Hell

RE: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-07 Thread Bernie Volz (volz)
IL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:41 PM To: Brian Haberman Cc: Ted Lemon; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Bernie Volz (volz) Subject: Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" Hello, Brian. As I presented last IETF 6MAN meeting

Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-07 Thread HYUN WOOK CHA
We do not have any security methods and just consider using the SEND. Regards, Joseph --- Original Message --- Sender : Brian Haberman<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date : 2008-10-08 04:20 (GMT+09:00) Title : Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" Jos

Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-06 Thread hyunwook cha
client behavior in >>> response >>> to the receipt of M and O flags is unspecified." >>> >>> - Bernie >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Ralph Droms (rdroms) >>> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:31 AM >>>

Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-06 Thread Ralph Droms
List Mailing; Brzozowski John Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" Bernie - my suggested clarifications help the situation in that the flags are currently underspecified (in fact, IMHO, confusingly specific) relative to the previous conse

RE: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-06 Thread Bernie Volz (volz)
: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" Bernie - my suggested clarifications help the situation in that the flags are currently underspecified (in fact, IMHO, confusingly specific) relative to the previous consensus about their definition. Deprecating the

Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-06 Thread Ralph Droms
ssage- From: Ralph Droms (rdroms) Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:31 AM To: Thomas Narten Cc: Ralph Droms (rdroms); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DHC WG; IPV6 List Mailing; Bernie Volz (volz); Brzozowski John Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" Tho

RE: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-06 Thread Bernie Volz (volz)
) Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:31 AM To: Thomas Narten Cc: Ralph Droms (rdroms); [EMAIL PROTECTED]; DHC WG; IPV6 List Mailing; Bernie Volz (volz); Brzozowski John Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" Thomas - you wrote: > unless somethin

Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-10-06 Thread Ralph Droms
Thomas - you wrote: unless something has changed (and I have seen no indication of this), the WG should not take on this topic or discuss it further because there is no consensus to make any changes. One part of the situation that may have changed - or, perhaps, wasn't considered - is the c

Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-09-29 Thread HYUN WOOK CHA
Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" Joseph, to summarize, it sounds like you believe that the ability to stop DHCP clients broadcasting on a link is a requirement. And you therefore think that deprecating the M&O bits is not the right

Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-09-29 Thread Ted Lemon
Joseph, to summarize, it sounds like you believe that the ability to stop DHCP clients broadcasting on a link is a requirement. And you therefore think that deprecating the M&O bits is not the right answer. Is that correct? ---

Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-09-29 Thread HYUN WOOK CHA
Hello, Thomas and Ted. Please see my inline comments. On Sep 18, 2008, at 6:01 AM, Thomas Narten wrote: >> Perhaps this point might be a major conflict. As we both know, >> consecutive DHCPv6 SOLICIT messages are sent exponentially >> back-offed if no valid replies are received within timeouts

Fwd: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-09-22 Thread hyunwook cha
Thomas, I would like to add a few comments as below. > > --- Original Message --- > Sender : Thomas Narten<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date : 2008-09-18 22:01 (GMT+09:00) > Title : Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" > > HYU

Re: [dhcwg] Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-09-18 Thread Ted Lemon
On Sep 18, 2008, at 6:01 AM, Thomas Narten wrote: >> Perhaps this point might be a major conflict. As we both know, >> consecutive DHCPv6 SOLICIT messages are sent exponentially >> back-offed if no valid replies are received within timeouts. Since >> this always holds, I would like to ask you why M

Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-09-18 Thread Thomas Narten
HYUN WOOK CHA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > First of all, I would like to give a brief summary for the draft. > > > > > Existing specification (RFC2462) does not give a method on how to > > > revoke DHCPv6 clients once they were invoked by the M or O flags of > > > RA messages. > > > > Perso

Re: Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-09-18 Thread HYUN WOOK CHA
CTED] > Subject: Re: Request for Advices on the draft > "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" > > HYUN WOOK CHA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hello, Thomas Narten and 6MAN folks. > > > I made a presentation for our draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-

Re: Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-09-17 Thread Thomas Narten
HYUN WOOK CHA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, Thomas Narten and 6MAN folks. > I made a presentation for our draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" at > the 6MAN session in Dublin IETF. This draft aims to clarify the > handling of the M/O flags of IPv6 RA. Though I got several comments > during

Request for Advices on the draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt"

2008-08-21 Thread HYUN WOOK CHA
Hello, Thomas Narten and 6MAN folks. I made a presentation for our draft "draft-cha-ipv6-ra-mo-00.txt" at the 6MAN session in Dublin IETF. This draft aims to clarify the handling of the M/O flags of IPv6 RA. Though I got several comments during my presentation, I could not figure out what you