Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-22 Thread Rémi Després
Roger, Please se inline. 2012-12-2122:12, Roger Jørgensen : > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Rémi Després > wrote: >> 2012-12-2110:49, Ole Troan : >> ... (*) 4rd implementors are free to add code to reject any intra-site IID that (by mistake) would be universal-scope, and in

Re: IANA policy (was Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd))

2012-12-21 Thread Rémi Després
Hi, Suresh, Comments inline. 2012-12-21 à 23:09, Suresh Krishnan : > Hi Remi/Ole/Bob, > Speaking as the author of RFC5453, I am afraid that this will not > work. The allocation policy for this registry is *Standards Action* and > hence requires a Standards track RFC. Bad news, but an indisputa

IANA policy (was Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd))

2012-12-21 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Remi/Ole/Bob, Speaking as the author of RFC5453, I am afraid that this will not work. The allocation policy for this registry is *Standards Action* and hence requires a Standards track RFC. This was done to keep the bar high to minimize disruption to existing implementations as they do not che

Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-21 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Rémi Després wrote: > 2012-12-2110:49, Ole Troan : > ... >>> (*) >>> 4rd implementors are free to add code to reject any intra-site IID that (by >>> mistake) would be universal-scope, and in the 4rd-assigned IID range. >> >> but the current specification does not

Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-21 Thread Rémi Després
2012-12-2110:49, Ole Troan : ... >> (*) >> 4rd implementors are free to add code to reject any intra-site IID that (by >> mistake) would be universal-scope, and in the 4rd-assigned IID range. > > but the current specification does not handle conflicts? There is no relation between this subjec

Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-21 Thread Rémi Després
Hi, Simon, Thanks a lot for this pointer. I will check, hopefully with Brian, which 4rd range can best fit in this up-to-date table. RD Le 2012-12-21 à 11:56, Simon Perreault a écrit : > Le 2012-12-20 11:07, Rémi Després a écrit : >> - Small problem: at http://www.iana.org/protocols, a regist

Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-21 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2012-12-20 11:07, Rémi Després a écrit : - Small problem: at http://www.iana.org/protocols, a registry for "Reserved Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6) Interface Identifiers" is listed but, when clicking to open it, the page that comes is that of "Instant Message Disposition Notification (IMDN

Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-21 Thread Ole Troan
Remi, Also, is there any reason not to choose (for example) FDFE:::-FDFE::: which is near the existing anycast range ? >>> >>> No objection that I can see. >>> Support for including this in the 6man answer. >> >> I think this is better than making any assum

Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-20 Thread Rémi Després
2012-12-20 13:46, Ole Troan : >>> Also, is there any reason not to choose (for example) >>> FDFE:::-FDFE::: >>> which is near the existing anycast range ? >> >> No objection that I can see. >> Support for including this in the 6man answer. > > I think this is better than

Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-20 Thread Ole Troan
>> Also, is there any reason not to choose (for example) >> FDFE:::-FDFE::: >> which is near the existing anycast range ? > > No objection that I can see. > Support for including this in the 6man answer. I think this is better than making any assumption abut the u/g flags.

Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-20 Thread Rémi Després
Le 2012-12-20 à 11:44, Brian E Carpenter a écrit : > Rémi, > > I think this might work, and is nicely orthogonal to my question > whether the u/g bits have any intrinsic value. > > One question though. You suggest > 0300:::-03FF::: > but I understand that 4rd needs 6 by

Re: Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-20 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Rémi, I think this might work, and is nicely orthogonal to my question whether the u/g bits have any intrinsic value. One question though. You suggest 0300:::-03FF::: but I understand that 4rd needs 6 bytes, not 7. Is there any reason you did not propose 0300:::

Use the IANA registry of RFC5453 for 4rd (was IIDs, u and g bits, and 4rd)

2012-12-20 Thread Rémi Després
Hello, chairs, - First a great thank you Jouni for for the reference to RFC 5453, which is perfectly relevant but had been ignored in this discussion. The good news is that, since an IANA registry for IID ranges has already been created, no new registry is needed for any new IID type, and in pa