Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-06-02 Thread Ranier Vilela
De: Andrew Robinson Enviado: terça-feira, 2 de junho de 2020 01:45 Para: Antonio Scuri; r...@gnu.org Cc: IUP discussion list. Assunto: Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions >I see only one download for IUP, not many. The GPL license appears to say that >ALL code linked with GPL source

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-06-02 Thread Ranier Vilela
De: Andrew Robinson Enviado: terça-feira, 2 de junho de 2020 01:45 Para: Antonio Scuri; r...@gnu.org Cc: IUP discussion list. Assunto: Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions >I see only one download for IUP, not many. Those who use the IUP librar

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions: GPL vs LGPL

2020-06-01 Thread sur-behoffski
On 2020-06-02 11:15, Andrew Robinson wrote: > I see only one download for IUP, not many. The GPL license appears to say that > ALL code linked with GPL source (that would mean all the GPL static > libraries), must also be disclosed under a GPL license. By providing GPL > static libraries in a singl

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-06-01 Thread Andrew Robinson
I see only one download for IUP, not many. The GPL license appears to say that ALL code linked with GPL source (that would mean all the GPL static libraries), must also be disclosed under a GPL license. By providing GPL static libraries in a single IUP package instead of having the users download i

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-06-01 Thread Antonio Scuri
If we put everything together in a single library, then no, it is not legal. But we don't. That's exactly why we split in several libraries. Each secondary library can have its own license if necessary. The documentation of each library reflects this. BTW the documentation cleary displays "

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-06-01 Thread Andrew Robinson
I'm still not seeing direct links to the great many copyright licenses that I had no idea existed until a few days ago. It is not reasonable to expect users of IUP to comb through each and every source file to search for any licensing that was not mentioned at the outset in the documentation. At a

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-06-01 Thread Antonio Scuri
t scrub each "src" subdirectory in the IUP source code? > > > > -- > *From:* Antonio Scuri > *Sent:* Monday, June 1, 2020 12:48 PM > *To:* Moore, Tysen > *Cc:* arobinso...@cox.net; IUP discussion list. > *Subject:* Re: [Iup-users] IUP L

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-06-01 Thread Moore, Tysen
ntonio Scuri Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 12:48 PM To: Moore, Tysen Cc: arobinso...@cox.net; IUP discussion list. Subject: Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions Just added a few more references for the license of the third party libraries. It is on SVN for now. But no, they are documented o

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-06-01 Thread Antonio Scuri
Just added a few more references for the license of the third party libraries. It is on SVN for now. But no, they are documented only at their respective IUP library page. BTW if you red the COPYRIGHT files, then you actually red their licenses too. Unfortunately legality text is confusing.

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-06-01 Thread Moore, Tysen
That was my difficulty as well. I can't seem to find the third party licenses in the documentation (https://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.br/iup/). I have also checked the various "COPYRIGHT" and "README" files and can't find anything either. It would be useful to have the "Overview" documentation tha

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-05-29 Thread Andrew Robinson
"Each of IM, CD or IUP libraries that use third party libraries that have a license term different than IUP, has a separate page in the documentation" Where in the documentation? I can easily find the IUP license in the documentation, but not any third party licenses. All the licenses should be i

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-05-29 Thread sur-behoffski
G'day, A couple of comments about including/excluding libraries, that superficially look good, but may require more effort to realise: 1. The Good: IUP's top-level Makefile has an "EXCLUDE_TARGETS=..." feature, so that subtargets can be switched in/out from the command line. There's relatively

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-05-29 Thread Antonio Scuri
Each of IM, CD or IUP libraries that use third party libraries that have a license term different than IUP, has a separate page in the documentation. If you use those libraries you should check their documentation. In their documentation there should be a note about the license terms, and usually

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-05-29 Thread Andrew Robinson
I can't seem to find it so can you give a link to the online IUP documentation where it lists all the third party functions and their licenses? Best Regards, Andres On 2020-05-29 at 8:36 AM, Antonio Scuri wrote: Yes, in the IUP, CD and IM documentation we include the license terms of all thi

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-05-29 Thread Moore, Tysen
It might be useful for other users if the documentation clearly listed these libraries and their licenses as potential license problems below the statement, "IUP is free software, can be used for public and commercial applications.". A simple listing would make it easier for users to know of po

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-05-29 Thread Antonio Scuri
Yes, in the IUP, CD and IM documentation we include the license terms of all third party libraries. Best, Scuri Em sex, 29 de mai de 2020 12:33, Andrew Robinson escreveu: > Ola, > > "*When using LGPL you can if the library is in an external module, for > instance in a DLL. And you must inclu

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-05-29 Thread Andrew Robinson
Ola, "When using LGPL you can if the library is in an external module, for instance in a DLL. And you must include its license text in the distribution" Does PUC-RIO have a copy of all the licenses required for their independently licensed features in the distribution or IUP/IM/CD website, or d

Re: [Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-05-29 Thread Antonio Scuri
Hi, 1. Are there other IUP dependencies that require this library? No, all these libraries are independent features. You can simply ignore them. You must link with the specific library to use it, and then be dependent of its license requirements. 2. There is no way this code can be used with a

[Iup-users] IUP License Questions

2020-05-29 Thread Moore, Tysen
We are using the IUP framework to create a commercial application. The decision to use this framework rested upon the statement; "IUP is free software, can be used for public and commercial applications". Unfortunately, our license compliance team has flagged some issues within IUP. It would