Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-13 Thread Radu-Adrian Popescu
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Radu-Adrian Popescu writes: How uninformed. RHEL/ES starts at $349, while WS is $179. If you have a beef Does the ES/WS packages have IBM's JRE/SDK? Yes it does: 1.4.1, 1.4.2 from IBM, 1.4.2 from BEA. This is in the "Extras" channel in a regular, $179 WS package. -- Rad

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-13 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Radu-Adrian Popescu writes: Also do you know if did they have to obtain a commercial distribution license with either IBM and/or Sun? Red Hat ships IBM's JRE/SDK only with their "Enterprise" product line, AFAIK, which costs a few grand per seat. How uninformed. RHEL/ES starts at $349, while WS i

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-13 Thread Radu-Adrian Popescu
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Dominic, do you know if RedHat was distributing Blackdown before the IBM JRE/SDK became available? I've been using Red Hat since 1996. I do not recall Red Hat ever shipping Blackdown. Same here. Also do you know if did they have to obtain a commercial distribution licen

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-12 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Marc St-Jean writes: On Jan 11, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Dominic Duval wrote: On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 18:08, Marc St-Jean wrote: I understood that some Linux distros (RedHat?) were distributing the Blackdown JRE so there must be one live contact email where they were able to verify licensing. RedHat does no

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-12 Thread Marc St-Jean
On Jan 11, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Dominic Duval wrote: On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 18:08, Marc St-Jean wrote: I understood that some Linux distros (RedHat?) were distributing the Blackdown JRE so there must be one live contact email where they were able to verify licensing. RedHat does not distribute Blackdow

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-11 Thread Dominic Duval
On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 18:08, Marc St-Jean wrote: > I understood that some Linux distros (RedHat?) were distributing the > Blackdown JRE so there must be one live contact email where they were > able to verify licensing. RedHat does not distribute Blackdown binaries. RedHat only distributes the I

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-11 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Marc St-Jean writes: Other than the corruption it appears to be the same as the Sun JDK 1.4.2_X license. This prompts me to ask, is the Blackdown license supposed to be different from Sun's? That's a question for Karl. Juergen

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-11 Thread Calvin Austin
eek, I'm going to ask Darin what happened Juergen Kreileder wrote: Marc St-Jean writes: BTW, I went to verify how the "blackdown binary license" would be different from the Sun license with regards to distribution with a distro. However after downloading twice from the ftp.tux.org mirror the LIC

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-11 Thread Marc St-Jean
On Jan 11, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Juergen Kreileder wrote: Marc St-Jean writes: BTW, I went to verify how the "blackdown binary license" would be different from the Sun license with regards to distribution with a distro. However after downloading twice from the ftp.tux.org mirror the LICENSE file at

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-11 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Marc St-Jean writes: BTW, I went to verify how the "blackdown binary license" would be different from the Sun license with regards to distribution with a distro. However after downloading twice from the ftp.tux.org mirror the LICENSE file at the root of the 1.4.2-01 directory appears to be corr

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-10 Thread Marc St-Jean
On Jan 7, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Calvin Austin wrote: Lots of difficult questions here. Joining the blackdown porting project means you use the blackdown binary license etc. I think joining the Blackdown project would be best for us in order to get a more recent and stable base and to be able to contri

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-07 Thread Karl Asha
anks, Karl - Original Message - From: "Jim Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marc St-Jean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ; "Dominic Duval" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 6:33 PM Subject: Re: Licensing questions On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-07 Thread Jim Watson
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 05:08:01PM -0600, Marc St-Jean wrote: > > > Karl was the first contact I tried two months ago but no reply. I'll > send you a private email if you don't mind verifying have the right > address. Some the pages on the site may have an old address. > I am very interested i

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-07 Thread Calvin Austin
Lots of difficult questions here. Joining the blackdown porting project means you use the blackdown binary license etc. If you want to talk to someone at Sun let me know and I'll forward your questions on regards calvin Marc St-Jean wrote: >On Jan 7, 2005, at 12:58 PM, Dominic Duval wrote: > >

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-07 Thread Marc St-Jean
On Jan 7, 2005, at 12:58 PM, Dominic Duval wrote: Hey Marc, Note, however, that the information contained in this email summarizes my own interpretation of Sun and Blackdown access rules to the Java VM source tree and should not be considered legal advice, nor be viewed as official answers from Bla

Re: Licensing questions

2005-01-07 Thread Dominic Duval
Hey Marc, On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 14:57, Marc St-Jean wrote: > I'm new to the mailing so if this is not the proper forum please direct > me to the right list (I have tried reaching some of the email contacts > listed on the web site and get no reply). Yup, this is the right place. Note, however

Licensing questions

2005-01-07 Thread Marc St-Jean
I'm new to the mailing so if this is not the proper forum please direct me to the right list (I have tried reaching some of the email contacts listed on the web site and get no reply). We want to port Blackdown to a Linux distribution running on a CPU not currently supported. Reading the inform