[The Java Posse] Re: Java officially lags C

2009-09-03 Thread Frederic Simon
I use to always put my SQL code in specific files, because I came from ugly Oracle SQL preprocessor where SQL and code where mixed like hell (JSP files are the same BTW). But, today I prefer Named Queries and/or JDBC 4. I use to declare my ORM mapping and my Depency Injection in a separate XML

[The Java Posse] Re: cucumber in episode #270

2009-09-03 Thread Paul King
As promised, my slides from Agile 2009 are now on SlideShare: http://tinyurl.com/groovy-testing Description: Using the Groovy dynamic language for primarily functional / acceptance / customer / BDD testing with a forward looking perspective. Also considers polyglot options. The techniques and

[The Java Posse] Re: Java officially lags C

2009-09-03 Thread B Smith-Mannschott
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 01:53, Jess Holleje...@ptc.com wrote: You don't embed this sort of thing.  You use getResourceAsStream() and a separate file along with MessageFormat or such to perform substitutions of live data if need be. Plain and simple. Yup. Good idea. So you've now maximally

[The Java Posse] Re: Wicket-based A/B testing mechanism

2009-09-03 Thread Richard Vowles
In Wicket, the ordering of containment in the html must map in the code. IMHO, this would make A/B/.../K testing painful unless you component it up the wazoo. On Aug 11, 11:15 am, Joe Nuxoll (Java Posse) jnux...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if this is built directly into Wicket or not...  but is

[The Java Posse] #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread jddarcy
After listening to episode 277, I'm led to conclude I'm thought of by some as one of the ivory tower guys who just says no to ideas about changing the Java programming language. I have a rather different perspective. In November 2006, Sun published javac and related code under the familiar

[The Java Posse] Re: #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread Joshua Marinacci
Thanks Joe. I appreciate this response. Any chance we can get a blog on it to spread around? On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:44 PM, jddarcy wrote: After listening to episode 277, I'm led to conclude I'm thought of by some as one of the ivory tower guys who just says no to ideas about changing the

[The Java Posse] Re: #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
Thanks for your response to criticisms of the lack of significant new features in Java 7. It is very important to know that there is a ready line of communication between the people who control a language and those who use it. Having said that, could you answer this question... Which of the

[The Java Posse] Re: #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread Casper Bang
As I've communicated to Alex Buckley, I just think the community was surprised by how few resources Sun would/could put on it. Seems like this boils down to a conflict of interest between Sun, the JCP and the people in the trenches. Sun needs to realize how this model appears from a far and how

[The Java Posse] Re: #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread Jess Holle
All points well taken -- at least by me. I know what it's like to work as hard as you can towards something and be shot down by criticism that you're not doing anything or not even trying. That said, a few points: * Not all of us are compiler experts -- and javac is fairly large and

[The Java Posse] Re: #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
Joe, I think a very (_very_) large problem with The Kitchen Sink Language, kijaro, and the open sourced JDK is that you fundamentally can't solve your own problem with it. There are exceptions, but the vast majority of java programmers I know of that are interested in developing their own

[The Java Posse] Re: #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread Casper Bang
Funny enough, I just submitted such a poll to java.net since there are certainly more average developers following it, than there are tracking the coin mailing-list. Personally I don't think language design should be a democratic endeavor exactly for the reasons outlined by Joe and Alex, things

[The Java Posse] Re: #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread jddarcy
On Sep 3, 5:22 am, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote: Thanks Joe. I appreciate this response. Any chance we can get a blog   on it to spread around? On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:44 PM, jddarcy wrote: I've posted a lightly edited copy of my post at

[The Java Posse] Re: #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread Robert Casto
1) Works really well for a while. Hard to not care though. 2) Doesn't do much more than make you look like a trouble maker. 3) The grass is always greener somewhere else. Believe me, it is because of the manure. 4) Very commendable but hard to pay the bills. Great if you can make it fit the needs

[The Java Posse] Wicket design question for Dick (or is one of you guys knows it you can answer me too :)

2009-09-03 Thread Lenny P
Hi Guys. I was there during the Roundup '07 and had a blast. You may remember me as the pilot. Unfortunately, I got laid off and now programming again. We are evailuating web frameworks (ugh) and I know from the podcast that Dick uses Wicket. I've noticed that there are a lot of duplication

[The Java Posse] Quicksort large amount of data

2009-09-03 Thread Barney
Is it realistic to use HashSet to determine if a large amount of string data (2 000 000 strings of length 20) is composed of unique entry ? If not, is it realistic, in a more general way, to quicksort this large amount of string data in memory (not using an extern or file quicksort) ? Thank

[The Java Posse] Re: #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
Casper Bang wrote: Funny enough, I just submitted such a poll to java.net since there are certainly more average developers following it, than there are tracking the coin mailing-list. Personally I don't think language I'm not in the coin mailing-list, so I trust your numbers. Still,

[The Java Posse] Re: Wicket design question for Dick (or is one of you guys knows it you can answer me too :)

2009-09-03 Thread Casper Bang
Have a look at JSF and you will come fleeing back to Wicket. What Wicked gives you, that other frameworks does not, is the ability to avoid XML and use your existing HTML and Java skills. Also, it's really easy to create your own components and obtain reuse that way, something I have not seen

[The Java Posse] Re: #277: Not a view from an ivory tower

2009-09-03 Thread jddarcy
On Sep 3, 6:37 am, Vince O'Sullivan vjosulli...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your response to criticisms of the lack of significant new features in Java 7.   I was more so responding to the implication that Sun is not seeking input from the broader community (Sun is part of the Java community

[The Java Posse] Re: Quicksort large amount of data

2009-09-03 Thread Christian Catchpole
do it and find out :) i dont think the hashing of the collections classes have anything against such high object counts. it might just be a concern of memory. on average, do you expect all 2 million strings to be unique? how often do you expect duplicates? you could do the processing in