[The Java Posse] Terms and understanding in IT business (was: Choosing a Java web framework - with security as a focus)

2010-07-19 Thread Wildam Martin
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:54, Alan Kent wrote: > He asked "what is security".  He went on to talk about > the marines, army, air force, navy, etc - each would have a different > interpretation of "securing a building" - (invade and kill everyone, put a > fence around, lock the doors when you leav

[The Java Posse] Re: Episode 315 - IDE discussion

2010-07-19 Thread Casper Bang
> Am I correct in my recollection that both NetBeans and Eclipse were > not originally projects started in Sun and IBM.  I forget where NB > came from but think Eclipse came out of IBM picking up OTI. Sun bough NetBeans in 99', from a Java development tool firm in the Czech Republic. I also think

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Episode 315 - IDE discussion

2010-07-19 Thread B Smith-Mannschott
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 09:17, Casper Bang wrote: >> Am I correct in my recollection that both NetBeans and Eclipse were >> not originally projects started in Sun and IBM.  I forget where NB >> came from but think Eclipse came out of IBM picking up OTI. > > Sun bough NetBeans in 99', from a Java d

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Choosing a Java web framework - with security as a focus

2010-07-19 Thread Viktor Klang
Hi Alan, There's a lot of material about Lift and it's approach to security, As a short introduction, read this entry: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2683914/why-would-i-use-scala-lift-over-java-spring/3067319#3067319 Cheers, On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Alan Kent wrote: > On 16/07/20

[The Java Posse] Re: Episode 315 - IDE discussion

2010-07-19 Thread Tom Hawtin
On Jul 19, 12:26 am, Lhasadad wrote: > swing had not come out.  Even after Swing came out there was still an > interest in something that performed better (Swing was not a barn > burner in the beginning)  Also in those days Sun was not all that fast Swing on JRE 1.1 wasn't too bad. Swing in JRE

[The Java Posse] Re: Episode 315 - IDE discussion

2010-07-19 Thread Casper Bang
Interestingly, www.sun.com/forte is not a direct forward to NetBeans suggesting it really did compete with NetBeans as a developer tool around the same time frame. Perhaps one was community and another was enterprise? (In much the same way we'll soon have JDeveloper and NetBeans). /Casper On 19 J

[The Java Posse] Re: Episode 315 - IDE discussion

2010-07-19 Thread Nick Brown
I remember SWT had come out quite a while after Swing, but the latter was just so bad I still feel a bit queasy when I hear the phrase "Java UI". I too was surprised at the name Helios. Previously releases were all named after moons of Jupiter ("Calisto", "Europa", and "Ganymede"), then it was na

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-19 Thread franz
JFYI: Somehow you got misinformed. XPERIA update to 2.1 is out already... with 2.2 expected... On Jul 16, 8:31 am, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > Don't be a moto. Buy some HTC device instead. Android wins. > > NB: In general, I get the extremely strong impression that so far the > only acceptable a

[The Java Posse] Re: Google Groups

2010-07-19 Thread Christian Catchpole
I have a series of mirrors above my bed and an array of lasers and projectors fed via a jail-broken iPad. Around my bed, I hire out of work actors to re-enact the members of the Java Posse.. but that bit is a bit creepy so I won't go into any more detail... except to say that Tiffany Brissette doe

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Google Groups

2010-07-19 Thread Wildam Martin
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 15:15, Christian Catchpole wrote: > Around my bed, I hire out of > work actors to re-enact the members of the Java Posse.. but that bit > is a bit creepy so I won't go into any more detail... Aha! I guess you have stolen the hat... -- Martin Wildam -- You received this

[The Java Posse] Re: Google Groups

2010-07-19 Thread Christian Catchpole
I call it 'woody' On Jul 19, 11:29 pm, Wildam Martin wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 15:15, Christian Catchpole > > wrote: > > Around my bed, I hire out of > > work actors to re-enact the members of the Java Posse.. but that bit > > is a bit creepy so I won't go into any more detail... > > Aha!

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Episode 315 - IDE discussion

2010-07-19 Thread jitesh dundas
The names dont matter in this case, what matters is the things that they are trying to convey here. There is mostly a purpose in the naming conventions, when you talk of a successful project like Eclipse. Whatever the lobby, there is a clear pattern in their implementation strategy. A pattern in n

[The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-19 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
Someone might want to update the wikipedia page then :P On Jul 19, 12:26 am, franz wrote: > JFYI: Somehow you got misinformed. XPERIA update to 2.1 is out > already... with 2.2 expected... > > On Jul 16, 8:31 am, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > > > > > Don't be a moto. Buy some HTC device instead.

[The Java Posse] Re: Petition to Open Source JavaFX

2010-07-19 Thread opinali
Statements like "JavaFX is still-born..." (without any qualification) are always problematic... remembers me of Kirill Grouchnikov's recent blog where he complains that JavaFX's support for designers still sucks (true), but uses that to conclude, remarkably in the attention- catching title, that Ja

[The Java Posse] Scala 2.8 actors documentation

2010-07-19 Thread Jan Goyvaerts
A simple question for those Scala guru's out there: It seems actors have been reworked quite some in 2.8. But does this also mean the syntax has changed ? Let's say compared to what is described in "Programming in Scala". If I'm not mistaken the book is based on Scala 2.7.2. Thanks ! :-) Jan -