The Java store was another naive idea by people (Gosling?) refusing to
wake up and smell the (stale) coffee. Who would use a "Java store"
apart from Java developers? Normal people couldn't care less about
what language/runtime lies underneath - nor should they.
On Oct 22, 7:59 pm, Blanford wrote:
Never done a google search for flash games?
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Casper Bang wrote:
> The Java store was another naive idea by people (Gosling?) refusing to
> wake up and smell the (stale) coffee. Who would use a "Java store"
> apart from Java developers? Normal people couldn't care
Yup. I doubt if "Java" will be replaced by Oracle later on.. You can see the
effects of the "consolidate & make profit" strategy already...
If this goes on, what about the other related projects ?
thanks,
jd
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:35 PM, CKoerner wrote:
> If you ask me Java itself is anothe
On Oct 22, 6:17 pm, Rob Ross wrote:
> What kind of crazy logic is this, to blame Oracle because *Apple* is
> deprecating their JDK? Are you saying Sun/Oracle should be maintaining a
> separate port of the JDK for every vendor that does one of their own???
If the value provided by Java isn't eno
I answered this in another thread, but briefly:
* Apple was in very bad shape in 1997 (most people expected it to be
acquired or go out of business), so Sun wasn't all that interested in
putting resources into a doomed platform. Their JDK 1.0 was about as
half-assed a release as you'll ever see.
humm, the problem is... Java is pretty much used for development tools for Java
projects or for Java projects of which the bulk of those are enterprise apps.
Objective-C will not replace nor will apple hardware replace what's being used
in the enterprise environment. And, most enterprises don't
It's my impression that 'normal people', if they've heard of Java at
all have very low expectations. Slow to load and ugly. So, not only
would they not seek out a "java store", they'd probably actively avoid
it. And, frankly, I can't really blame them.
Just yesterday, I was setting up my new print
BTW. interesting blog entry on this from Matt Drance at Apple
Outsider:
http://www.appleoutsider.com/2010/10/22/java/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Major points of interest include the fact that Apple had a bunch of
people working hard on Java over the years, and that the bulk of that
Again, I think you see Sun stepping in with their
own JDK primarily as a means of attracting developers and legitimizing
the Java platform. They may not have wanted to, but it seems they had
to.
==
Clearly all this act is to fend off competition and make money out of
java(read stephen co
Yes, I do (hopefully).
It's not implemented yet, but it's next on the list, and it shouldn't
be too difficult. Perhaps I'll run the idea by you and you can let me
know if this fixes it for you.
The framework already has a way to specify labels, so you can label a
record like this:
country:
Oh, it had occured to me that you probably don't even need the
namespacing. So something like
$label(Canada)
or
$label("Canada")
would work instead. See I'm still thinking it out ;)
On Oct 23, 11:19 am, Ken Egervari wrote:
> Yes, I do (hopefully).
>
> It's not implemented yet, but it's next o
Nope, nor do I know any others who have. I take it you are insinuating
that Java was going after the flash game segment. That might have
worked out... 10 years ago. Both flash and Java are significant
security attack vectors so I usually recommend family members who
don't really need it, to uninsta
> Major points of interest include the fact that Apple had a bunch of
> people working hard on Java over the years, and that the bulk of that
> effort was spent on AWT/Swing, which is a really big job and a really
> hard problem in the end. That, and javax.sound, are what Soy Latte
> foundered on
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Casper Bang wrote:
> Nope, nor do I know any others who have. I take it you are insinuating
> that Java was going after the flash game segment.
Actually, I believe he was only directly challenging that most people
"couldn't care less about what language/runtime
Watch the FUD there. First of all, even if it has been a while since
I've used VS, I know they support at least C++, C#, VB and F#... and
even accounting for off-by-one errors, that's more than 2. Secondly, I
need only one finger to count the number of languages Sun/Oracle
supports (and you can arg
Perhaps, the full story is a bit more nuanced though. These reports
actually didn't start at Microsoft, the news broke with Brian Krebs
[http://krebsonsecurity.com/2010/10/java-a-gift-to-exploit-pack-
makers/], and soon lead to various security bulletins like MSIR,
Kerberos [http://web.mit.edu/Kerb
Funny a multi billion company like Microsoft cant afford the salary of half
a dozen developers to keep the Iron family of languages alive so their CLR
moniker has some substance.
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You know it's funny how many 'normal people' still have the view that
Java is all about animation in web pages - 'it does that animated Star
Trek looking guy with the juggling balls, right?'
I think that shows the poor job that Sun did to get Java recognized as
a consumer technology.
On Oct 23, 4
On Oct 23, 6:48 pm, Miroslav Pokorny
wrote:
> Funny a multi billion company like Microsoft cant afford the salary of half
> a dozen developers to keep the Iron family of languages alive so their CLR
> moniker has some substance.
The Iron languages are pointless for Microsoft... I'm glad they
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