[The Java Posse] Re: The ASF left JCP

2010-12-15 Thread Robert Mark Bram
On Dec 10, 6:41 am, Jan Goyvaerts wrote: > ... although I guess we all have our own opinion about the role of ASF > lately, I don't think this is good news for Java. A very sad day indeed. > > Not the least because the organisation deciding of Java's features is now > only composed of interested c

[The Java Posse] Google makes MAJOR Code Donation to Eclipse

2010-12-15 Thread CKoerner
Today we are announcing Google’s donation of the source code and IP for two of these products to the open source community through the Eclipse Foundation. This donation includes WindowBuilder, the leading Eclipse Java GUI Designer, and CodePro Profiler, which identifies Java code performance issues

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On 12/15/2010 09:04 PM, Rob Ross wrote: Well, that *was* the stated goal : A simple app framework designed for small to medium sized desktop apps that is easy to learn and quickly develop on. If you're going to write an IDE yourself, SAF is probably not the framework for you. If you're going

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Library to convert http parameters to object

2010-12-15 Thread Moandji Ezana
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Erlend Hamnaberg wrote: > The httpcache4j-api artifact does exactly what you want. Which class should I be looking at? Moandji -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send em

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Rob Ross
On Dec 15, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: > On 12/15/2010 02:41 PM, Casper Bang wrote: >> >> Well I am of course talking about the original Beans Binding >> (JSR-295), as well as it's sister project Swing App Framework >> (JSR-296) which depends on it. Perhaps your definition of aband

[The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Augusto Sellhorn
I like the approach my University had for CS degrees, learning a language is up to you. You'd get no credit if you took a course in any computer language (it wouldn't count towards your degree), and the little bit of actual language learning would happen under labs but not be a formal thing in cla

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Rob Ross
I can't speak to Beans Binding, but a fork of SAF named BSAF (Better Swing Application Framework) is alive and well: http://kenai.com/projects/bsaf/pages/Home I'm working on my own port that focuses on automatically making apps look and behave like first class citizens on Mac OS and taking adva

Re: [The Java Posse] Popularity of Programming languages

2010-12-15 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On 12/15/2010 07:06 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote: Er... yeah, self promotion is okay but disguising it behind "I just discovered my own blog post" is a bit lame. LOL -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." java.net/blog/fabrizi

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Library to convert http parameters to object

2010-12-15 Thread Erlend Hamnaberg
You can look at httpcache4j. The httpcache4j-api artifact does exactly what you want. -- Erlend On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Moandji Ezana wrote: > On 15 Dec 2010 17:19, "Erdinc Yilmazel" wrote: > > > > Have you looked at JAXRS/Jersey? > > Like all web frameworks, Jersey does this, but I

Re: [The Java Posse] recommend a good book comparing OOP and functional programming

2010-12-15 Thread Kevin Wright
I've been trying to wrap my head around the benefits of functional > programming vs straight OOP. my biggest problem is i have been doing > nothing but OOP since i started 12 or so years ago and have never run > into a situation i couldn't solve so i don't understand the reason to > learn a new pa

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Library to convert http parameters to object

2010-12-15 Thread Moandji Ezana
On 15 Dec 2010 17:19, "Erdinc Yilmazel" wrote: > > Have you looked at JAXRS/Jersey? Like all web frameworks, Jersey does this, but I want a small library that does only this kind of conversion. Moandji > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Moandji Ezana wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 4:1

Re: [The Java Posse] Popularity of Programming languages

2010-12-15 Thread Cédric Beust ♔
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM, jitesh dundas wrote: > Nice post. > > Just curious, Aren't you Jay Wagh? Even If yes, I guess self-promotion > is ok these days. > Er... yeah, self promotion is okay but disguising it behind "I just discovered my own blog post" is a bit lame. -- Cédric -- You

Re: [The Java Posse] Popularity of Programming languages

2010-12-15 Thread jitesh dundas
Nice post. Just curious, Aren't you Jay Wagh? Even If yes, I guess self-promotion is ok these days. Rust should be a good language, but can we compare that with Java and see the results. Anyone with specifics on these? Regards, JD On 12/14/10, jay w wrote: > hello folks I recently discovered

[The Java Posse] recommend a good book comparing OOP and functional programming

2010-12-15 Thread scphantm
ive been trying to wrap my head around the benefits of functional programming vs straight OOP. my biggest problem is i have been doing nothing but OOP since i started 12 or so years ago and have never run into a situation i couldn't solve so i don't understand the reason to learn a new paradigm wh

[The Java Posse] Re: Android Gingerbread and the new Google Nexus S

2010-12-15 Thread Mike Wolfson
Having a "vanilla" phone is very important to me. I just bought the G2 (US branded HTC phone) specifically because it has the "pure Android" experience. That was an important reason I bought the Nexus One (and would have been a good reason to buy the Nexus S if it wasn't missing some features tha

[The Java Posse] Re: Programming Language Popularity

2010-12-15 Thread CKoerner
Interesting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this g

[The Java Posse] Popularity of Programming languages

2010-12-15 Thread jay w
hello folks I recently discovered this blog post which shows the usage and popularity of different programming languages like Java, C, Ruby, Haskell, Scala, C#, PHP, JavaScript and many more heres the link for that blogpost. http://jaydeepwagh.blogspot.com/2010/12/popularity-of-programming-

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Library to convert http parameters to object

2010-12-15 Thread Erdinc Yilmazel
Have you looked at JAXRS/Jersey? On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Moandji Ezana wrote: > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote: > >> for xml and json I would advise Xtreme. But for regular properties... ? > > > It would be a lot simpler if request parameters could be reliably co

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Library to convert http parameters to object

2010-12-15 Thread Moandji Ezana
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote: > for xml and json I would advise Xtreme. But for regular properties... ? It would be a lot simpler if request parameters could be reliably converted to JSON without reference to a class... But I don't think they can. Moandji -- You recei

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Library to convert http parameters to object

2010-12-15 Thread Jan Goyvaerts
for xml and json I would advise Xtreme. But for regular properties... ? On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 15:03, Moandji Ezana wrote: > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote: > >> Well, apart from using XSD I don't know about an implicit string-to-type >> conversion able to deduce the type

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On 12/15/2010 02:41 PM, Casper Bang wrote: Well I am of course talking about the original Beans Binding (JSR-295), as well as it's sister project Swing App Framework (JSR-296) which depends on it. Perhaps your definition of abandoned differs from mine, but most people checking the mailing-lists

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Library to convert http parameters to object

2010-12-15 Thread Moandji Ezana
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote: > Well, apart from using XSD I don't know about an implicit string-to-type > conversion able to deduce the type from the data. Or is there ? I'm doing it the other way around: "I need a User, get it from the HttpServletRequest." User class h

[The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Casper Bang
> BeansBinding is not abandoned. It's still widely used by many people and > the NetBeans IDE supports it. The moron who forked it failed so far to > keep the forked project active, but maybe a call for people could push > things... Well I am of course talking about the original Beans Binding (JSR

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Library to convert http parameters to object

2010-12-15 Thread Jan Goyvaerts
Well, apart from using XSD I don't know about an implicit string-to-type conversion able to deduce the type from the data. Or is there ? On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 13:02, Moandji Ezana wrote: > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:38 PM, shain...@googlemail.com < > shain...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dozer should

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On 12/15/2010 01:21 PM, Casper Bang wrote: It seems to me that both the (now abandoned) beans binding as well as the (also abandoned) JavaFX Script language revolved around the same paradigm of modelling behavior, so the Visual Basic and C# approach can't be all bad. BeansBinding is not abandone

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Oracle's strategy for Java on the iPad

2010-12-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Graham Allan wrote: > I've found that using JSLint, choosing a set of rules that works for you, > and > actually sticking to them, really helps for scaling JavaScript in terms of > team and application size. > Thanks for allowing me to plug jslint4java

[The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Casper Bang
> I think this is a red herring. Compiling will be all but instantaneous for > most starter projects. So many people seems to have something against red herring! Not fair, it's a perfectly fine traditional Scandinavian x-mas dish, enjoyed with 45% aquavit: http://goo.gl/1KkA9 :) -- You received

[The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Casper Bang
> After having learned Java and trying to go back to Visual Basic I > found it very frustrating and very much lacking in features to which I > had become accustomed. I'm finding the same now with going back to doing some C# work, mostly from being so used to Swing where you are *forced* to do ever

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Library to convert http parameters to object

2010-12-15 Thread Moandji Ezana
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:38 PM, shain...@googlemail.com wrote: > Dozer should do it but you might need to write a custom parser. > > here is were i would start. > > http://dozer.sourceforge.net/documentation/mapbackedproperty.html > > Thanks, but I get the impression that you have to know ahead

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Kevin Wright
On 15 December 2010 11:38, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: > On 12/15/2010 12:06 PM, Carl Jokl wrote: > >> I was speaking to a student at our University today and it looks like >> the introduction to programming is being moved from Java to C#. >> >> I suppose that speaks of Java's demise in popularity as

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On 12/15/2010 12:06 PM, Carl Jokl wrote: I was speaking to a student at our University today and it looks like the introduction to programming is being moved from Java to C#. I suppose that speaks of Java's demise in popularity as of late. However it may also be just that at the time I was there

[The Java Posse] Re: Javascript should replace Java in College Courses

2010-12-15 Thread Carl Jokl
I was speaking to a student at our University today and it looks like the introduction to programming is being moved from Java to C#. I suppose that speaks of Java's demise in popularity as of late. However it may also be just that at the time I was there, the person who taught programming was ver

[The Java Posse] Re: For developers, Android growth slowing down heavily

2010-12-15 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
On Dec 14, 10:51 pm, JamesJ wrote: > Unfortunately on the last search, I think "C" is a bit too ambiguous. > None of the linked events listed on the page even referred to the > language C. When searching on google, cross contamination of searches > can be very different from term to term. That v