Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Apple in-app subscription service

2011-02-22 Thread Moandji Ezana
http://blog.readability.com/2011/02/an-open-letter-to-apple/ To be clear, we believe you have every right to push forward such a policy. In our view, it’s your hardware and your channel and you can put forth any policy you like. But to impose this course on any web service or web application that

[The Java Posse] Re: Apple in-app subscription service

2011-02-22 Thread Casper Bang
I'm starting to wonder: if lots of content providers move from iOS to the Web, will Apple continue to invest as much in mobile Safari? Well it's interesting that, initially, iSteve didn't envision 3'rd part native applications on the iPhone but rather HTML stuff. In all likelihood we are bound

[The Java Posse] Re: Apple in-app subscription service

2011-02-22 Thread Chess
I could care less about sharecroppers because this isn't sharecropping. You want to take a 21st Century communications and computing platform and compare with an 18th Century farming method? Really? On Feb 21, 8:07 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote: I strongly suggest you read up

[The Java Posse] Re: Apple in-app subscription service

2011-02-22 Thread Chess
Native vs Web will exist as long as there are devices with programmable capabilities, and that will continue to occur probably long after all of us have turned to dust. On Feb 22, 5:28 am, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: I'm starting to wonder: if lots of content providers move from

[The Java Posse] Re: Qi4j anyone?

2011-02-22 Thread Rickard Öberg
On Feb 21, 12:57 pm, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: On 02/21/2011 07:01 AM, Rickard berg wrote: /Rickard Qi4j founder Java Champion BTW, Rickard, congrats! How much is spread Qi4j at the time? It really is hard to tell, as most people who use it don't tell us.

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Apple in-app subscription service

2011-02-22 Thread Moandji Ezana
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Chess chessm...@gmail.com wrote: Native vs Web will exist as long as there are devices with programmable capabilities, and that will continue to occur probably long after all of us have turned to dust. Maybe, but the real question is: what incentive will

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Apple in-app subscription service

2011-02-22 Thread phil swenson
no matter what happens with native, the web is still there and is critically important. and users want to surf the web. that's the incentive. On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Moandji Ezana mwa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Chess chessm...@gmail.com wrote: Native vs

[The Java Posse] Re: My month-long search for a web framework - results

2011-02-22 Thread Eric
Our first web designer wrote our entire web site in Flash. Our second web designer rewrote our entire web site in Wordpress. Our current web designer is rewriting the entire web site in Abode CS5 (Dreamweaver?). Facebook is written in Java. It uses Ajax to load the page piece by piece. You can

[The Java Posse] Re: Apple in-app subscription service

2011-02-22 Thread Casper Bang
Naah surfing the web is hardly the same as 10 years ago, nor is it what Tim Berners-Lee originally envisioned. It is in fact just one generation of a manifestation of a hypermedia system. The moment the location bar is gone, the moment most sites run rich state models on the client (think

[The Java Posse] Windows/Mac native LF

2011-02-22 Thread Jan Goyvaerts
Hi there ! Is there anyone in here who has experience with Java look feel which look like native application for their respective operation system ? A friend asked whether I knew such a library and answered maybe Synthetica is what he was looking for. I've had a half-disgusted answer that

Re: [The Java Posse] Windows/Mac native LF

2011-02-22 Thread Mark Fortner
You might want to read this article which describes how to make a native-looking app for Mac OS X. This should be enough to get you started: http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/JavaLP/JavaToMac/ http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/JavaLP/JavaToMac/This of course presumes

[The Java Posse] Oracle Linux?

2011-02-22 Thread Carl
I believe we received this at JavaOne but I have not installed it anywhere and don't recall anyone running it. I have received an email or two about it since then and was wondering if anyone has tried it and/or has war stories about it. I seem to recall this is aimed at Red Hat. -- You

Re: [The Java Posse] Windows/Mac native LF

2011-02-22 Thread Cédric Beust ♔
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Mark Fortner phidia...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to read this article which describes how to make a native-looking app for Mac OS X. This should be enough to get you started: http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/JavaLP/JavaToMac/ FYI, this

Re: [The Java Posse] Windows/Mac native LF

2011-02-22 Thread Cédric Beust ♔
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Jan Goyvaerts java.arti...@gmail.comwrote: Hi there ! Is there anyone in here who has experience with Java look feel which look like native application for their respective operation system ? A friend asked whether I knew such a library and answered maybe

Re: [The Java Posse] Windows/Mac native LF

2011-02-22 Thread Ricky Clarkson
Trying to write a GUI that looks native on Swing will bring you nothing but endless frustration. I've managed it before, but mainly targeting Windows. JFileChooser and the lack of standard context menus cause problems, and users who switch their Windows theme (e.g., switching into and out of

Re: [The Java Posse] Windows/Mac native LF

2011-02-22 Thread Marcelo Fukushima
Does swt look native though? eclipse certainly doesnt look native to me (but i guess its not as weird as swing) 2011/2/22 Cédric Beust ♔ ced...@beust.com On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Jan Goyvaerts java.arti...@gmail.comwrote: Hi there ! Is there anyone in here who has experience

Re: [The Java Posse] Windows/Mac native LF

2011-02-22 Thread Cédric Beust ♔
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Marcelo Fukushima takesh...@gmail.comwrote: Does swt look native though? eclipse certainly doesnt look native to me (but i guess its not as weird as swing) Technically, it *is* native since it's using the real host OS widgets, instead of emulating them like

Re: [The Java Posse] Windows/Mac native LF

2011-02-22 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
For Mac OS X there's Quaqua. It also includes extra components specific to Mac OS X (such as JSheet) and includes a native JFileChooser. The author catches up well with any new improvement of the LF in a new operating system. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: My month-long search for a web framework - results

2011-02-22 Thread Josh McDonald
I thought Facebook was written in PHP using some custom PHP-C++ compiler? On 23 February 2011 05:17, Eric e.d.program...@gmail.com wrote: Our first web designer wrote our entire web site in Flash. Our second web designer rewrote our entire web site in Wordpress. Our current web designer is

Re: [The Java Posse] Windows/Mac native LF

2011-02-22 Thread Miroslav Pokorny
What the tabs with the dog ear end on the right inside Eclipse ? SWT might be native but there are certain odd bits that do identify SWT applications. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: My month-long search for a web framework - results

2011-02-22 Thread work only
Facebook is NOT written in Java. Its written in php and compiled to c++ On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Eric e.d.program...@gmail.com wrote: Our first web designer wrote our entire web site in Flash. Our second web designer rewrote our entire web site in Wordpress. Our current web

[The Java Posse] Re: Oracle Linux?

2011-02-22 Thread Michael Neale
it is RHEL - yes. If you want RHEL but don't want RHEL - Centos works well and is totally free. But sounds like you have some old school 90s coasters right there, don't throw them out ! On Feb 23, 6:52 am, Carl carljmo...@gmail.com wrote: I believe we received this at JavaOne but I have not