Re: [The Java Posse] Running a Java process as a service on multiple platforms

Whatever Tomcat did: + When I download Tomcat for Windows, I get a Windows installer. After installation of which, I have a Windows service that I can start and stop + When I install Tomcat for Linux (from the distribution’s package repository) I get a service script that I can start/stop/

[The Java Posse] Running a Java process as a service on multiple platforms

Hi all, Just wondering what the current "best practice" was on having a Java process (a server) that is to be restarted with the machine boot. The service may need to be deployed on different platforms (Unix/Linux, Windows32, Windows64, etc). You know, that old "write once, run anywhere" bus

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

On 5 July 2011 22:43, clay wrote: > Is everyone simply using Scala as a more concise Java? > > I love the conciseness, however, it seems that the stronger argument > for Scala over Java is the improved support for functional and > immutable programming. > > Not to mention the (often overlooked) i

[The Java Posse] Re: Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

Is everyone simply using Scala as a more concise Java? I love the conciseness, however, it seems that the stronger argument for Scala over Java is the improved support for functional and immutable programming. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Jav

Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

2011/7/5 Cédric Beust ♔ > One more thought about: > > > the need to create a loop when performing a trivial mapping over some > collection > > As you may or may not know, there is a pretty bad performance problem with > for comprehensions in Scala at the > moment

Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

I do know that LinkedIn does indeed ping for people at the BASE meetings, they also sponsored ScalaDays 2011 (good sponsors too). All in all, they continue to be exemplary members of the Scala community. Thanks LinkedIn. The BASE meeting is coming up on Monday (at LinkedIn), Cedric, why not come

Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

Regarding that for-comprehension problem, it's only bad for those for comprehensions that could be written as a loop in Java, and even then it's on the order of magnitude of "stuff that you wouldn't normally notice". 2011/7/5 Cédric Beust ♔ : > One more thought about: >> the need to create a loop

Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

Actually, it's much worse than simply not having any Scala position... http://www.linkedin.com/jsearch/sh?keywords=jvm&company=LinkedIn&searchLocationType=Y&sortCriteria=R Or perhaps they're simply finding enough people from the BASE meetings and internal cross training, without having to filter

Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

Hi Dick, On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Dick Wall wrote: > But, Cedric, LinkedIn does use Scala, they host our monthly Scala meetings, > and at each meeting they stand up and say that they are on the look out for > more Scala developers. Also, after conversations with you in the past I have > a

Re: Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:58 AM, steve wrote: > I think the main problem is the sustained brain-drain Java is suffering for > years now. You'll probably be hard pressed to support this claim with data. A few highly visible people are experimenting with other languages, but that's what they do, a

Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

One more thought about: > the need to create a loop when performing a trivial mapping over some collection As you may or may not know, there is a pretty bad performance problem with for comprehensions in Scala at the moment

Re: Vs: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Spring's Rod Johnson on OSGi

you don't have to use OSGi to write modular software. and easier, less risky approach is to use dependency injection enforce your module breakouts with a decent build system (gradle). This gets you most of the way w/o out all the tooling and testing headaches. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:08 AM,

[The Java Posse] Re: Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

Thanks for all the feedback and constructive critiques. All of them deserve a reply: - I admit the post is quite biased in favor of Scala (but not that much). I did it on purpose since its intention is clearly to promote the Scala adoption, especially in Italy where for some reason almost nobody i

Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

On Monday, July 4, 2011 2:30:21 PM UTC-7, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote: > > > Also, be wary of cclaims that can be easily contradicted (e.g. "If LinkedIn > uses Scala, how come they don't have any open positions for Scala > developers?"). At least, spend the time to do the research that can be > easil

[The Java Posse] Re: Strange Loop 2011 Schedule Published

Some of the sessions will be recorded and released on InfoQ over the 6 months after the conference. Not sure whether all tracks will be recorded yet. Alex On Jul 1, 2:47 am, mP wrote: > Will there be podcasts and video streams made available online ? -- You received this message because you

Aw: Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

I think the main problem is the sustained brain-drain Java is suffering for years now. Lots of brilliant and talented people have left and there aren't enough newcomers to fill the role. There is just no one there anymore who could push the Java language substantially forward (ignoring the techn

[The Java Posse] Re: Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

> 1. Lombok is not a hack. It's the use of a specific language element > (annotations) and related tools (annotation processor). Annotation are > the way Java has been designed to be extended (in a constrained way). > It's still "pure" Java, as pure as the other annotations (e.g. > @Transactional,

Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

On 07/05/2011 11:21 AM, Kevin Wright wrote: I don't see Lombok as being significantly different from Scala here. Both are alternative ways of emitting valid JVM bytecode that differ from "pure" Java, and both require support at both the IDE and compiler level. In this sense, the change req

Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

On 5 July 2011 09:16, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: > > 2011/7/4 Cédric Beust ♔ mailto:ced...@beust.com>> >> >> >>Your point about smarter people is a very dangerous one to make, >>not just because of the kind of attitude that it projects but >>because it's borderline insulting to the exist

[The Java Posse] Re: Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

> Points above marked with no: use Lombok and the verbosity is gone. > Lombok is not a trick, it's just an application of Java language and > tooling features and it's IDE-friendly. To me today people writing Java > code and blaming Java for that kind of boilerplate and not using Lombok > are just

Re: [The Java Posse] Why Scala matters (especially) under a business point of view

2011/7/4 Cédric Beust ♔ mailto:ced...@beust.com>> Your point about smarter people is a very dangerous one to make, not just because of the kind of attitude that it projects but because it's borderline insulting to the existing Java programmers in your company. You need them as a