means far too costly and that has other negative
effects. I value being able to throw away code for something better. TDD
creates a lock-in where I’m less able to do that.
Regards,
Kirk
PS ok, I often agree with Cedric but
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>
> On Sun,
Sorry, I didn't mean use of regex.. I meant using the regex classes themselves
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On 2013-04-15, at 7:38 AM, Bruce Chapman wrote:
> If what we write first is "the simplist thing that might work", then I'd
> suggest comments should explain code that is not ap
and lower level information
being included in the javadoc it would be reachable to most even if the
code were 100% readable... which is rarely ever is.
-- Kirk
On 2013-04-14, at 8:15 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
> Imagine a world where all the standard Javadoc (e.g. java.uti
On 2013-03-20, at 9:58 AM, Martijn Verburg wrote:
> Booth babes are strongly discouraged at Devoxx conferences - they're not
> something we want encouraged in the industry, period.
REALLY Then I'm not going!
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On 2013-02-02, at 5:37 PM, "Fabrizio Giudici"
wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:30:57 +0100, Kevin Wright
> wrote:
>
>> It would be better for the thing to not exist at all than for it
Depends who you ask and what type of argument you put forth?
I believe there are people listening here that might be in the category of who
to ask?
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Kirk
On 2013-02-02, at 10:00 AM, Thomas Matthijs wrote:
> https://www.change.org/petitions/oracle-corporation-stop-bundling-ask-tool
you spend
time testing those things that rely on {Soft/Weak/Phantom/Final}Reference and
things like that.
Regards,
Kirk
On 2013-01-30, at 4:49 AM, Bik Dhaliwal wrote:
>
> Out group at my company is considering using the Zing JVM from Azul,
> it promises zero GC pauses and in cert
+1 on no tabs
On 2013-01-25, at 5:26 PM, Tor Norbye wrote:
> I'm pretty sure it's not just me and that Carl is equally adamant against
> tabs. I also don't think anyone on the Posse disagreed with it, even if they
> aren't as passionate about it as Carl and I.
>
> If you've never run into a f
d. I had fun with Raspberry Pi at Devoxx. The
ARM JVM ran on it quite nicely so I suspect that it would run on this notebook
also. I also see that things like Raspberry Pi being very disruptive to those
that markets that don't need full powered laptops or desktops. So, is the
Chromeb
What is the deal on the Chromebooks.
Are they picking up traction?
What do they really look like? Linux?
are they worth exploring?
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I use java on the desktop and ask anyone.. I'm completely unmanageable.
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On 2012-10-19, at 10:44 PM, Josh Berry wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Fabrizio Giudici
> wrote:
>> I know there are green screen scrapers in many places. So, what? I'm not
>&
I've posted my slides @ slideshare.
- Kirk
On 2012-10-02, at 8:29 AM, Simon Ochsenreither
wrote:
> Do you have any links, slides, videos, talks etc.?
>
> Haven't seen anything yet. At least the videos are not yet available afaik.
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sorry to say but mountain lion suxs
On 2012-09-27, at 10:34 PM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> The Oracle builds will not install on Snow Leopard... (not supported by
> Oracle)
>
> So stay with the OpenJDK Builds from Henri Gomez, or go for Mountain Lion.
>
> -Sven
>
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 1:2
I wouldn't run a profiler in prod. What I would do is trigger a heap dump on
the OOME and then use MAT to find the source of the leak. I might then
instrument the app to sort out details.
-- Kirk
On 2012-09-26, at 11:29 AM, Rakesh wrote:
> considering the target server is in Amazo
rfect storm for a leak.
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On 2012-09-09, at 9:02 PM, Casper Bang wrote:
> I knew I should've chosen bigfoot instead. :)
>
> On Sunday, September 9, 2012 6:47:29 PM UTC+2, Ricky Clarkson wrote:
> I think you might be mixing Elvis and Object Oriented Programming up. Elvis
ched between text and C heap. You'd have to move C heap to dynamically
change the size of a stack frame and although we can do that for stuff in Java
heap... I don't know how you'd do it generically in C heap. But again, this
problem would be mute if proper support for recursion was
few people are talking about problems with
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out a half baked idea they need
more time for it in the oven. Seems logical so far. So, do I wish they'd made
the deadline? Yes but... not at the expense of a half baked solution.
-- Kirk
On 2012-07-18, at 11:30 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Jan Goyvaerts
Oh man how soon the lessons of history are forgotten. In the shops I was in the
mantra was, Smalltalk servers, Java front ends and who in their right mind
would use C++ for any of this. I guess we all now know how that worked out ;-)
On 2012-06-24, at 8:15 AM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
> On Sat, Ju
e OpenJDK, fork it, change the API and redistributed it under
> a new name and the same GPL + CPE license. No problems with the copyright,
> maybe problems with patents (the old discussion about whether GPLv2 protects
> enough or not).
Isn't this essentially what google did?
An API has two consumers, those that provide the implementation and those that
use the implementation. How can a copyright only apply to one and not the other?
Kirk
On 2012-05-07, at 10:02 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:56 PM, phil swenson wrote:
plementation in the language as
Java did. Consequently Smalltalk performance was better than Java but the
advantage was Java looked similar to what people were used to where as
Smalltalk was just "weird".
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> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 10:57, Kirk Pepperdine
> wrote:
> I think you'll see a headless version come very quickly.
>
> Kirk
>
> On 2012-03-07, at 10:47 AM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
>
> > Does somebody know what JVM can run on a Raspberry Pi ?
I think you'll see a headless version come very quickly.
Kirk
On 2012-03-07, at 10:47 AM, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
> Does somebody know what JVM can run on a Raspberry Pi ? Or maybe somebody in
> here already made it work ?! :-)
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I found a nice place to stand and prop up my laptop on my recent flight from
Abu Dhabi to Sydney... it was surprisingly comfortable to stretch out and code.
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On 2012-03-01, at 4:27 PM, Carl Jokl wrote:
> In that case then it may be better to live with the immutability and
> the performance and memory impact of that.
>
> On Mar 1, 3:23 pm, Kirk Pepperdine wrote:
>> On 2012-03-01, at 4:17 PM, Carl Jok
encapsulation is broken
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right, but name an (useful) API that relies on CharSequence...
Kirk
On 2012-03-01, at 4:04 PM, Carl Jokl wrote:
> I think it may cause complications protecting the internal character
> array if String is not final. I suppose the character array could be
> declared private and final. If
t; immutable.
>
>
> If String wasn't final, it would obviously not be immutable, duh.
I can protect the underlying char[] without making the class final. Making the
class final kills all chance of extending which denies developers of the tools
that OO brings to the table.
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so I could have ASCIIString, UTF8String, and so on. Might even be able to get
rid of utility classes like StringBuilder and StringBuffer...
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> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Kevin Wright wrote:
> I never really had a big problem with Strin
On 2012-03-01, at 12:08 PM, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:01:46 +0100, Kirk Pepperdine
> wrote:
>
>
>> On the question of Strings, StringBuffer/Builder and copying char arrays.
>> Sorry to say that this is still a huge performance drain in many
&
m or force them to copy themselves.
Rule #4, use System.arraycopy, it is the most efficient way to copy a primitive
array.
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Thanks for the kind words Martijn. Sorry for the shameless commercial plug but
I have a schedule on my blog kirk.blog-city.com
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Kirk
On 2012-01-26, at 3:00 PM, Steel City Phantom wrote:
> LOL, yea, let me figure out how im going to word the training request to get
> a trip to Cr
t state and DBs... generally there is no
chance for a transactional conflict so it's always puzzling to see people use
heavy transactional resources to manage state.
Regards,
Kirk
On 2012-01-26, at 3:29 PM, James Ward wrote:
> The typical approach to scaling out the web tier of Java apps ha
polgot programming.. well who knows wft that is but I do see more people
using more langauges on the JVM.
Kirk
On 2012-01-21, at 5:21 PM, Alex Turner wrote:
> I have rarely worked somewhere where enough folks on the team had overlap in
> more than the core skill set. Ancillary too
Little says, add transactions and forget about throughput. Also, if you go rely
on memory only, you need redundancy. In fact, for these types of systems, you
always need redundancy. POS terminals won't be safe as they will lack
redundancy.
Regards,
Kirk
On 2012-01-09, at 1:15 AM, Kevin W
Kind regards,
Kirk
On 2012-01-06, at 4:11 PM, Rakesh wrote:
> ok, so lets say its a lottery application.
>
> That means in the run up to the big draw on Saturday night its likely
> to get insanely busy!
>
> I can't see a way around not needing transactions but if there
I think all the points are good.. they just lack context.. and so not all of
them are going to fit..
Kirk
On 2012-01-06, at 3:18 PM, Robert Casto wrote:
> All these technology ideas are great but what is the task that all these
> people will be doing in such a short time frame?
>
't be surprising).
Regards,
Kirk
On 2012-01-06, at 1:25 PM, Kevin Wright wrote:
> It's hard to answer without more information, especially regarding data
> retention requirements (hint: things can be made a lot faster if you don't
> have to keep persisting them to disk)
&
what I was suggesting were internal changes that should not have any effect on
the API…
Kirk
On 2012-01-03, at 1:21 PM, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:47:12 +0100, Kevin Wright
> wrote:
>
>> What version of Akka are you evaluating, and what's your time
, Akka plays
beautifully with Java as well.
Regards,
Kirk
On 2012-01-03, at 12:47 PM, Kevin Wright wrote:
> What version of Akka are you evaluating, and what's your time to market?
>
> If it's far enough away, your best bet is to look at the M2 release of Akka
> 2.0. In par
x27;s not going away… but this year I hear more interest in
hardware….
People just learning more about the tools of our trade…
Happy New Year!
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read stalls? Each of these problems has Java code/JVM Hotspot code
solutions.. but you can't improve what you can't see.. ;-)
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are starting to ask the deeper
questions, how is this really working? How can we tell? What adjustments can we
make to increase cooperation between app and CPU?
Happy New Year,
Kirk
On 2011-12-29, at 2:34 PM, Ricky Clarkson wrote:
> And/or try to apply some of what you learn in your job, obvi
and rolled that? Ok, in
some cases the answer will be yes but there will be just as many where the
answer was no.
Regards,
Kirk
>
> A+
> Osvaldo
>
> On Thursday, December 1, 2011 7:36:04 AM UTC-5, KWright wrote:
> Sure you can. The so-called "placement new"[1] al
very very careful when
reading what Stephen says. He's quite talented at leading you down the
proverbial garden path with the intention of inspiring a very thoughtful
discussion.
Regards,
Kirk
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Dick Wall wrote:
> The core messages behind that
doing something, solving some
little problem, presenting an idea.
Regards,
Kirk
On Nov 21, 2011, at 1:32 AM, Bill Wohler wrote:
> Speaking of interviewing, what do people think about group interviews?
> I love them!
>
> - As an interviewer. You get to see how the candidate fits into the
Try Netbeans.
On Nov 2, 2011 8:26 AM, "Jan Goyvaerts" wrote:
> I've been "appointed" to introduce graphical user interface design in my
> company. I'm more of an Enterprisy [sic] profile. So I'm a bit lost when it
> comes to tools for visual design. It's destined for web applications.
>
> Is ther
er the internal workings.
>
> jCilk is a separate application framework; exactly where parallelism belongs.
>
> Kirk:
>
> Unsafe direct memory modification bypasses all the managed runtime safety
> guarantees and security features of the Java language. No bounds checks. No
Certainly the excitement in Java this year had to be about JVM performance and
JavaFX. JavaFX finally feels real.
Kirk
On Oct 23, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Sean Comerford wrote:
> I agree with both sides.
>
> Tech geeks always want to be on the cutting edge / "cool" tech. 10 yea
maybe it's just me but I felt more excitement as this years event than in the
previous few.
Regards,
Kirk
On Oct 23, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Chris Koerner wrote:
> I thought it was just me when I didn't even want to bother listening to the
> live stream of the event. In many way
h that you have access to
everything without having to play games with pointers in Java.
Kind regards,
Kirk Pepperdine
On Oct 22, 2011, at 8:20 PM, Edward Harned wrote:
> I missed addressing the Unsafe class usage. First of all, why do you think
> they call it Unsafe? If you’re not fa
gt; Well here we have a real bone of contention. Java reified shared memory
> multithreading in the early 1990s.
I disagree, to use one model in exclusion to all others is dogma. Java supports
mutability but it also nicely supports other techniques.
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putting distance between immutable fields and shared mutable fields causes them
to show up in difference cache lines. Reads from different threads won't cause
cache line flushing.
Regards,
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On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:56 AM, ricky.clark...@gmail.com wrote:
> I haven't followed t
Specification, we're stuck with unsafe.
Regards,
Kirk
On Oct 21, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> I can retort a few of these, but certainly not all of it.
>
> --Exceedingly Complex--
>
> Yes, but, complaining that F/J (ab)uses com.sun.misc.Unsafe is just stupid,
> i
elf into so
that you understand what is needed and can commit to delivering on that
commitment.
Regards,
Kirk
On Oct 17, 2011, at 11:15 PM, phil swenson wrote:
> I've never seen hiring people in other countries to work as remote members of
> a team work well. Add in time zone differenc
this webinar, Heinz Kabutz will go searching for a memory leak in a
piece of code written by Kirk Pepperdine. No idea whether Heinz will find
it using his usual approach, so come and you might be able to have a nice
laugh at his expense.
Title: Live Memory Leak Hunt
Date: Thursday, September 15,
It's shaping up very nicely
On Sep 9, 2011, at 7:15 AM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
> Here is the (apparently) final decision, from Brian.
>
> Examples:
>
>x => x + 1
>(x) => x + 1
>(int x) => x + 1
>(int x, int y) => x + y
>(x, y) => x + y
>(x, y) => { System.out.printf("
Cedric,
+1, measure of error and a fine one at that!
On Sep 7, 2011, at 6:34 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:44 AM, martin wrote:
> As an antidote to Tiobe:
>
> http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Scala%2C+f%23&l=
>
> This shows Scala at 0.02% of the jobs posted on t
Brilliant because now MS and Nokia no longer take the pr hit for patent
trolling.. awesome
Regards,
Kirk
On Sep 2, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/nokia-microsoft-tap-mosaid-to-handle-huge-patent-trove/article2149
r APIs and frameworks
very well. But you're clearly not looking for any of the skills that I have to
offer and I doubt you'd hire me because of that.
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On Aug 22, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Karsten Silz wrote:
> On Aug 22, 9:52 am, Kirk wrote:
>> My question is, what is new and innovative about touch screens. I seem to
>> recall using them prior to the iPhone's existance. OH. I see, someone
>> married
e.. it's compensation for damages.. so even
better. And face it, the real reason everyone here is annoyed is because we're
not able to troll ourselves. No?
Unless groups (like this one) start taking action, demanding the system be
fixed, this is just whining and quite frankly it&#
My question is, what is new and innovative about touch screens. I seem to
recall using them prior to the iPhone's existance. OH. I see, someone married
and already existing technology with an already existing technology. So
un-obvious
Regards,
Kirk Pepperdine
On Aug 22, 2011, at 9:
How about deploying Oracle RDB?
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 17, 2011, at 6:32 AM, Michael Neale wrote:
> I mean that the JVM isn't "special" in deployment - there are many
> other systems that have to be dealt with - but it is one of the most
> problematic.
>
>
on on their phone, tablet, desktop,.. what ever.. but some expert
some where as looked into the issues of how to get that done. The more complex
the system, the more one off or customized the deployment, the more expertise
is needed.
Regards,
Kirk
>
> On Aug 15, 4:52 pm, Kirk wrote:
>>
write
bandwidth problems helps solve other write bandwidth (and other real estate
related) problems in the general application population.
Regards,
Kirk
>
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I've been in many trenches and trust me, the way to go in is with all your
toys.. and if you don't have them you've no business in the trench.
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 15, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Casper Bang wrote:
>> there are so many things wrong with this statement I'm n
plug ;-)
http://www.javaspecialists.eu/wiki/index.php/JavaSpecialistsSymposium2011#Thursday_1st_of_September
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 15, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Kirk wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Casper Bang wrote:
>>
>&
nderstanding the Java memory model and intricate details about
> generations and collector strategies.
there are so many things wrong with this statement I'm not even going to start.
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we will see something better.
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On Aug 15, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Matthew Farwell wrote:
>
>
> 2011/8/15 Kirk
>> If an implementation was not constrained by requiring a contiguous heap and
>> there was plenty of resources available, then a reasonable action cou
have to solve. Oh right, before I forget, EHCache released by
Terracotta suffers from the same issues as it uses the same techniques.
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Joseph Ottinger wrote:
> Another issue to consider, besides Kirk's very good explanations, is that GC
> req
ose ranges, heap size will be reset
to make it so.
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 15, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Joseph Ottinger wrote:
> Another issue to consider, besides Kirk's very good explanations, is that GC
> requires a condition to run. If it's "all memory," the condition beco
does *not* show
memory being returned to the OS.
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 15, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Mikael Grev wrote:
> Maybe this clears some things up regarding returning memory to the OS.
>
> http://www.stefankrause.net/wp/?p=14
>
> Cheers,
> Mikael
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On Aug 15, 2011, at 3:58 AM, Michael Neale wrote:
> Even for server apps it is at odds with, well, everything else. If you
> want to limit resource usage on a per process (JVM, in this case)
> there are plenty of tools that do that for you, give the system admin
> more control etc... the JVM is
have other priorities at the moment. I predict that Gil will be
successful with the Linux camp. I'm not so sure about Intel. That said, Azul is
pushing the boundaries of what a collector can do but they've not solved the
problems that the Oracle HotSpot team and the IBM team haven&#x
, they
run in a hacked up OS that is specifically tuned for their JVM. Nothing wrong
with this but
I could go on.
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 13, 2011, at 1:25 PM, mgkimsal wrote:
> Why, then, on my JVM web app, when I specify -Xmx2g, do I see a Java
> process
> eating up 10g on my syst
hen their problem is solved.
Gee, I've never seen that happen ;-) 'cept for the time when the small company
I was working for was being sued. Legal was ~400k / month and this went on for
close to a year before the company finally went bankrupt. But to be honest, it
wasn't the suite t
+1, @ least 75% if the Oracle vs Google case is typical.
On Aug 10, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Jess Holle wrote:
> Until the patent office can figure out how to judge real innovation and
> uniqueness in a software patent it should stop issuing any. They should also
> declare that existing software pa
the patent office made a mistake simply isn't working. The litigation
should be moved to a different arbitration/review process. And the patent
office needs to bear some of the responsibility for this mess.
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:45 AM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
> On Tue
everything is about large businesses. The focus on big business hasn't
worked out all that well. The countries that created a better climate for small
businesses are much better off.
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disagree again. History says, patents don't make a company more
valuable. And market share is a much more important factor.
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On Aug 9, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 16:03 +0200, Kirk wrote:
> [ . . . ]
>
>> Long story short, this is not a nice system and the people playing are
>> in it for the money and they don't give rats ass about you or your
>>
On Aug 9, 2011, at 4:13 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2011 4:03:01 PM UTC+2, kirk wrote:
>>
>> This is just a hunch, but, perhaps FOSS projects are more popular than
>> normal because of the patent system. It's much more difficult to sue t
r your IP
or the guy or company they bought the patent off of, nor do they care about PR
or just about anything else... only the lifestyle this broken system is going
to fund for them.
Regards,
Kirk
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The real reason that software should not be patentable is that it is a recipe
in that code specifies how to combine hardware to achieve a particular result.
It's like baking a cake but instead of shortening and flour you combine
registers
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riend of mine got hit by another patent troll. They paid.. and
huge sum of money and they were quite depressed about it for some time until
they realized that their competitors had *not* paid and then they realized that
they were able to offer better indemnity that their competitors were not
+1, I disagree with Cedric all the time but I still like him ;-)
Kirk
On Aug 9, 2011, at 4:56 AM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Ricky Clarkson
> wrote:
> He is the right-wing version of a techie.
>
> I'm used to having people disagreeing w
this post seems too personally directed IMHO.
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 9, 2011, at 3:18 AM, phil swenson wrote:
> Yes, giant companies aren't hurt too badly by patents. They pay off
> the trolls. They build patent hoards for counter-suits.
>
> I still don't see why softw
Sorry, it's not a red herring.. patent trolls will still go after you and just
shut you down if they figure out what you're doing.
Kirk
On Aug 8, 2011, at 7:50 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Kirk wrote:
> Copying isn't as easy as it seems. Wh
could have done if instead of putting it into patent protection it was put into
R&D.
Kirk
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On Aug 8, 2011, at 7:22 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Josh Berry wrote:
> 2011/8/8 Cédric Beust ♔ :
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> > I've found this to be true in the other direction as well: people who want
> > to completely abolish the current system with
a core
product prior to BEA. Copying isn't as easy as it seems. Which brings me back
to TestNG. How much protection to do you have and how many copies of it are
there? My guess in goose egg on both counts.
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Kirk
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work well for the big guys.
If you listened to the NPR report, they estimate software patent litigation has
cost 500,000,000,000USD and that money has come out of R&D budgets...
staggering!!!!
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 8, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
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> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at
copied your work? It is my believe that software is a
utilitarian product and the mistake is that this exception to the rule that you
cannot patent utilitarian products has been broken. So using your interface
analagy, GIGO
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 8, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
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I don't think this is a denial of the bug, it's just that out of the blocks
there is a huge amount of FUD about a problem that the Lucene guys could have
looked at quite a while ago.
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 3, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Mark Derricutt wrote:
> If it was just "a broken
rough dozens a clients per year).
Bottom line, everyone knew it was coming the builds were freely avaliable.
I've been using 7 on my Mac for months so I don't have much sympathy in
this case.
Regards,
Kirk
On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:53 AM, opinali wrote:
> Yes that looks clear fro
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