Re: [The Java Posse] Re: LOL! Tor is so Corporate

2011-01-18 Thread jitesh dundas
+1 Well Tor. I think the only difference between some of your friends here and you is that you like to speak about what you love and j like that. is definitely a great place to learn and innovate, though IBM and Intel rocks too. So do they have favorable patent sharing and profit sharing

Re: [The Java Posse] Data Visualisation

2010-12-24 Thread jitesh dundas
Have you chcked out the series Numb3rs?That has many episodes in which that professor solves crime using techniques of data visualization. Heir website has interesting stuff too. This is much better and entertaining when compared to other places. Honestly, data visualization is much focused on

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: iOS fragmentation vs. Android fragmentation

2010-12-20 Thread jitesh dundas
Do you think that a correlation between the processor speed of phones could be proportional to the screen size (just wondering ?) Well lets face it.A pocket pc with faster speed can be cool with bigger screens. However, a large screen with a slow processor could be disastrous. UI and screen

Re: [The Java Posse] Popularity of Programming languages

2010-12-15 Thread jitesh dundas
Nice post. Just curious, Aren't you Jay Wagh? Even If yes, I guess self-promotion is ok these days. Rust should be a good language, but can we compare that with Java and see the results. Anyone with specifics on these? Regards, JD On 12/14/10, jay w jaydee...@gmail.com wrote: hello folks I

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: The ASF left JCP

2010-12-12 Thread jitesh dundas
Do you think computers help change this? I doubt that. Back pains, obesty, blood pressure, stress..is so commmon these days. And yes, divorce rates have gone up too in IT industry. JD On 12/12/10, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 December 2010 09:56, Russel Winder

[The Java Posse] Back To School

2010-12-04 Thread jitesh dundas
not have a Phd. The way you show your intellectual capabilities in your domain is worth the time and money. I hope to hear from you soon. Regards, Jitesh Dundas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To post to this group, send email

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Back To School

2010-12-04 Thread jitesh dundas
Dear Phil, Thank you so much. That was very helpful . Regards, Jitesh Dundas On 12/5/10, Phil p...@surfsoftconsulting.com wrote: I took a Masters degree in 1990, a couple of years after graduating from my BEng, it was an MSc in Real-Time Electronic Systems (hardware and software - including

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Is the Java store broken for good?

2010-10-23 Thread jitesh dundas
Yup. I doubt if Java will be replaced by Oracle later on.. You can see the effects of the consolidate make profit strategy already... If this goes on, what about the other related projects ? thanks, jd On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:35 PM, CKoerner chessm...@gmail.com wrote: If you ask me Java

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Email from Jobs re Java on OS-X

2010-10-23 Thread jitesh dundas
Again, I think you see Sun stepping in with their own JDK primarily as a means of attracting developers and legitimizing the Java platform.  They may not have wanted to, but it seems they had to. == Clearly all this act is to fend off competition and make money out of java(read stephen

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Pick your own language

2010-10-05 Thread jitesh dundas
No wondEr people are leaving this group.(I hope not). I didn't find what Kevin wrote as repititive.This is a good topic. The choice of language depends on many factors like developers skillset, suitability to the project,etc. That is how projects are handled here..I don't know about others. A

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Pick your own language

2010-10-05 Thread jitesh dundas
No wondEr people are leaving this group.(I hope not). I didn't find what Kevin wrote as repititive.This is a good topic. The choice of language depends on many factors like developers skillset, suitability to the project,etc. That is how projects are handled here..I don't know about others. A

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Pick your own language

2010-10-05 Thread jitesh dundas
I don't want to post on these group..Just reading is good for me.And better to stay away from useless arguments. Sorry that was meant for Reiner.. PLEASE CARRY ON.I AM READING (ONLY..:).) jd On 10/5/10, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote: Jitesh: There are women in this group too..

Re: [The Java Posse] GC problem in Java and using our own Memory Management to overcome that

2010-09-22 Thread jitesh dundas
Depends on the stress level of your solution implementation environment.besides other solutions./ thanks, jd On 9/22/10, Suranjan Kumar suranjan.ku...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Recently, Terracotta has announced its own solution for GC issues in JVM. As they provide caching mechanism it

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Software patents vs the economy

2010-09-11 Thread jitesh dundas
Exactly, have you noticed that the number of research publications has gone up in high impact journals wrt. China. e.g. Nature ( The top of the tops..) JD On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Software patents vs the economy

2010-09-10 Thread jitesh dundas
++1...Completely agree... Well, I am not a futurist but surely there is some conviction in this(Even if I knew I would not share on this group.Too risky..)... It is true that China is on its way to be the ring leader of the world..but my interest here is that last two lines.. Concepts do change

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Software patents vs the economy

2010-09-10 Thread jitesh dundas
++1...Completely agree... Well, I am not a futurist but surely there is some conviction in this(Even if I knew I would not share on this group.Too risky..)... It is true that China is on its way to be the ring leader of the world..but my interest here is that last two lines.. Concepts do change

Re: [The Java Posse] HP CEO Hurd to be new co-President at Oracle

2010-09-09 Thread jitesh dundas
Interesting topic IN a similar case, Mr.Phaneesh Murthy, a top executive of US operations, was charged for sexually harrasing a female colleague at Infosys.. Infosys paid billions to settle the suit.. Then Mr. Murthy left infosys to join another firm as CEO ( I think it was Igate ..not

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: HP CEO Hurd to be new co-President at Oracle

2010-09-09 Thread jitesh dundas
There are always loopholes in the system. Finding them and getting you out of the trap is what good lawyers do and are paid for.. ANyone aware of the loopholes that people use to get out the trap.. BTW..Was HURD ACTUALLY CAUGHT in doing that..NO..Then on what basis can you just fire someone..

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Software patents vs the economy

2010-09-05 Thread jitesh dundas
Yeah, this looks like somewhat of the storyline of AVATAR . OTOH, he is right to some extent. I am personally aware of companies being involved such activities(e.g. TULSI , PUDINA aresome of the names that I know are being used..). I do agree that not all of their products are derived plants.

Re: [The Java Posse] Time For A Break

2010-09-02 Thread jitesh dundas
a lot of detail of the work force and their business trends to an extent. Regards, JItesh Dundas On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Vince O'Sullivan vjosulli...@gmail.comwrote: I'm currently on leave from work, in Mauritius with my family for ten days watching my daughters master wind and kite

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Time For A Break

2010-09-02 Thread jitesh dundas
Gaah, that is so sad I had a similar fate,except that when i left my previous company, they refused to let me encash the pending paid leaves ( which i really deserved after saving their runaway project and logging 20 hours every 6.5 days/week for 1 month on client side..that was bad..) ..I

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: When corporates blatantly lie

2010-08-29 Thread jitesh dundas
Steven, I am buying a new Touch phone that will have support for high internet usage..DO you think any of the the HTC PDA phones will suffice my needs.. How has been your experience on Cyanagenmod after installation? Which one do you suggest? I welcome any suggestions from others in too in this

Re: [The Java Posse] Google backs out of JavaOne

2010-08-28 Thread jitesh dundas
a wild guess and say they'd call it Google I/O. Moandji On 28 Aug 2010 07:05, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: If Google plans its own event, I wonder what they would call it... http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-08-2010/100825-javaone.html Thanks, jd On 8/28/10, Fabrizio Giudici

Re: [The Java Posse] Google backs out of JavaOne

2010-08-27 Thread jitesh dundas
If Google plans its own event, I wonder what they would call it... http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-08-2010/100825-javaone.html Thanks, jd On 8/28/10, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: [The Java Posse] Google backs out of JavaOne

2010-08-27 Thread jitesh dundas
A little towards the initial reason for all the Oracle - Google trouble. Some experts were expecting the lawsuit... http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/204319/google_bows_out_of_javaone_due_to_lawsuit.html More specifically, Dalvik was built to Get around licensing issues @JME..

Re: [The Java Posse] JP320: Why no mention of GWT ?

2010-08-25 Thread jitesh dundas
Language detection what do you mean ? Do you mean encoding problems or is this a Locale thing? - I meant that when we put a set of strings in different language s for use with the language detection functionality, then it is not able to detect the correct language.. I feel it is more

Re: [The Java Posse] JP320: Why no mention of GWT ?

2010-08-25 Thread jitesh dundas
Yes they do..We used that and the results were dismal. Anyways the workaround was to use their low level Ajax javascript API methods on the fron-end side( and change our requirements a little.what a headache). Well,that was the end of that.Never tried that again after that...:)... Regards, jd

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: About GPLv2 and patents

2010-08-20 Thread jitesh dundas
My point was directed to people asserting that, asking why they don't bring their point to the consequences that even Linux should be at risk (which sounds absurd to me). - I think that the implementation of Linux OS,rather the versions of OS might get affected. Linux should and would

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: About GPLv2 and patents

2010-08-20 Thread jitesh dundas
Will GPLv2 or 3 give protection against such claims..Well,I don't know.I will wait for things to unfold and get the Clear picture.. Regards, jd On 8/20/10, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: My point was directed to people asserting that, asking why they don't bring their point

Re: [The Java Posse] When corporates blatantly lie

2010-08-20 Thread jitesh dundas
There have always been issues in battery drainage , besides crashes(of phone OS) due to bugs in Motorola phones ( its components).This issue is hardly a surprise for me.. They seem to bring updates but rarely do issues stop from cropping up again.. USB issues to SD card detection- motorola phones

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-20 Thread jitesh dundas
Fabrizio and Kevin, If you could spare your precious time from the sailboat, may I request you to give your expert advise on the implications of this merger(JROCKIT + JVM)..If you can... I know you are very busy in your work and I thank you for your advise.. Thanks, jd On 8/20/10, Karsten

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
Yeah..they lost out twice in close encounters. I hope they do win in future soon.. regards, jd On 8/19/10, Miroslav Pokorny miroslav.poko...@gmail.com wrote: Must not forget that South Africa dropped a world cup when Gibbs dropped Waugh. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [The Java Posse] America is brilliant, it has has more Nobel Laureates

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
Thanks FOR THE HONOUR. I will just give my opinion, if you don't like it-ignore it.. Anyways , I will not ignore your comments. I think you understood by now that I am just ignoring your comments,unless specifically informative. Next time,I will not even reply like this. The last time you

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: America is brilliant, it has has more Nobel Laureates

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
Kevin, India is known for having people who really have brains right-the booming IT industry is a feather for us. Why then we still have no noble laureates ,and we celebrate an NRI expert who doesn't work in India.. A Cambridge professor won the noble prize.He had trouble (and failed) getting

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: America is brilliant, it has has more Nobel Laureates

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
Thanks Casper.that will make me better.. On 8/19/10, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: I've gone and created a 'special' gmail rule for his responses! And I've added a GreaseMonkey script: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1tCKEXJmKWCJ0zNGQL5L8aXvWHRlr0uuJIKF_g-9rl3M -- You

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
the results would be fascinating On 18 August 2010 22:55, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: B) IS CORRECT..THANKS.. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.comwrote: Do you mean: a) Of all Nobel laureates, the most commonly occurring nationality

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: America is brilliant, it has has more Nobel Laureates

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
will be the small countries, usually because they have very, very different natures. For example, does it even make sense to measure the average age of leaving education in the Vatican? On 19 August 2010 12:23, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: Let us stop talkIng about people discuss why

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
/javas_future_uncertain_under_oracle_grip.html http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OpenSolaris-future-assured-by-Oracle-942161.html http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/vizard/seeing-the-future-through-oracle/?cs=39031 If you have better ones,please share.Would love to read.. Regards, Jitesh Dundas

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: America is brilliant, it has has more Nobel Laureates

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
:).. Regards, JD On 8/19/10, Rakesh rakesh.mailgro...@gmail.com wrote: he's a machine goddamit! Congratulating Casper Classic!!! Rakesh On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:48 PM, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Kevin, Thank you for your reply. 'India has a large population

[The Java Posse] What If You were Oracle CEO

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
Dear All, Since we have so many experts in our group, I was wondering if you could put yourself in the shoes of Larry Ellison and decide about the latest happenings in your company. Also,I would love to hear about your plans for the future of Oracle. I would love to see something new from

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: America is brilliant, it has has more Nobel Laureates

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
they say. Rakesh On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:57 PM, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Rakesh. My only concern would be  to improve my work and knowledge. I guess being a village boy who faced hardships in gaining knowledge is reason for that... Heard of Dr Ambedkar or Gandhi

Re: [The Java Posse] What If You were Oracle CEO

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
/?p=2119 Maybe this is also useful... http://www.sramanamitra.com/2010/03/29/oracle-done-with-sun-now-what/ Regards, Jitesh Dundas On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Viktor Klang viktor.kl...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:07 PM, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Sir

Re: [The Java Posse] What If You were Oracle CEO

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
message now..) Maybe help you spur the CEO in you that may be hiding... Regards, JD On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:42 PM, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I did not understand his message and I felt that I might have written something inappropriate.. I went through this article

Re: [The Java Posse] What If You were Oracle CEO

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
( as a Steve Jobs admirer) for the former..:).. Regards, JD On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/19/10 16:25 , jitesh dundas wrote: I repeat I am not patronizing anyone here.Just FYI

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
Kevin, Have you read this paper.. http://www.lanl.gov/projects/CartaBlanca/webdocs/PhippsPaperOnJavaEfficiency.pdf http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~weimer/papers/W-ExceptionBugs.pdf Something o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: What If You were Oracle CEO

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
Wow ! that is the best reply that i have read all day..Awesome stuff.. You could think of applying for this position in future ..:) I am not going to speak much for now..It is a pleasure to read the comments of experts..Sit back and enjoy the discussion.. Thanks, JD On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: About GPLv2 and patents

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html Regards, JD On 8/20/10, Quoll gea...@gmail.com wrote: Fabrizio, IANAL, but I believe you are misunderstanding the rights that the GPL (version 2 or 3) provides on patents. When a system is made available through the GPL, you are providing

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
Request advise of you all experts. There is a project in design phase that was using JVM in our team. With JRockit coming into picture with this merger, will there be any implications of this on our expected coding testing phases(of our project ) Am I worrying useless ly or is there something

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-19 Thread jitesh dundas
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=59317 Which are the big businesses that he is referring to, I mean how will they decide which one's to use? How will this help Oracle in the long run? Regards, JD On 8/20/10, Karsten Silz karsten.s...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 17, 11:14 pm,

Re: [The Java Posse] News from Oracle.

2010-08-18 Thread jitesh dundas
Honestly, I foresee the integration of Java with other suits of Oracle products... Logic is simple, profits... Sun might have made mistakes but surely there were some good points too.. I am just concerned that Oracle ,with time as profits start coming in, change its strategy and hurt the

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Oracle Java suit -- could Google Web Toolkit be next?

2010-08-18 Thread jitesh dundas
I am not sure about that. Java is being used in an uncomfortable way in gwt..If the details are specific then no issues.However, it does seem like this were not specifically mentioned by Google. It may get into trouble... Thanks, JD On 8/17/10, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Oracle Java suit -- could Google Web Toolkit be next?

2010-08-18 Thread jitesh dundas
It is not the GWT,but the lawsuit will sureely get them money/... Really..GWT must be having some worth..Don't forget the loss of opportunities here.. please... jd On 8/18/10, Brian Reilly brian.irei...@gmail.com wrote: A jewel is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Compared to

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-18 Thread jitesh dundas
be in awe of Xerox for inventing the GUI, and Smalltalk They must surely have inspired the Sun-that-was. On 18 August 2010 20:15, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: Excuse me..I never said that all are like that..You must be really mistaken..No two oraganizations are the same in principles

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-18 Thread jitesh dundas
at 1:15 AM, Russel Winder rus...@russel.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 01:11 +0530, jitesh dundas wrote: [ . . . ] USA has produced some really good scientists in the past ..Tim Berners Lee is like God to me.. He is from the UK. Research done that made him famous done in Switzerland

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-18 Thread jitesh dundas
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Oracles-Google-Lawsuit-All-About-Ego-Money-and-Power-278678/ http://www.pcworld.com/article/203238/oracle_v_google_farreaching_implications_of_the_lawsuit.html iS THIS Useful ? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:25 AM, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: News from Oracle.

2010-08-18 Thread jitesh dundas
of Nobel laureates from the UK than from the US. Please check you facts before posting such claims, and cite your sources if possible. I haven't yet done the laureates per-capita for other countries, but I'm sure the results would be fascinating On 18 August 2010 22:55, jitesh dundas jbdun

Re: [The Java Posse] If Android is not Java then why do so many classes have java in their name ? TIC

2010-08-17 Thread jitesh dundas
to do so well.. Regards, Jitesh Dundas On 8/17/10, Wildam Martin mwil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 22:04, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote: *sigh*, lawyers... At least here in Austria it used to be one of the shortest studies (don't know after the changes trying to get

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: The actual 7 patents involved in the Oracle vs. Google suit.

2010-08-16 Thread jitesh dundas
yeah..really funny. especially the database icon part..wonder how larry does so in reality.:) regards, jd On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Greg Reddin gred...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: Heh you think Jobs called in a favor?

Re: [The Java Posse] Maybe it's the hot weather, maybe I've eaten too much today...

2010-08-15 Thread jitesh dundas
that was to fend off microsoft ..soon ibm realized that oracle might cause issues for the same.. Larry is one smart businessman.. regards, jd On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ... but here

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Meet Lady Java

2010-08-14 Thread jitesh dundas
i HAVE NOTICED THAT SUCH THINGS , EXCEPT GETTING THE WORK DONE AS NEEDED, MATTER MUCH..IN MY EXP, WHERE I WORKED, PEOPLE FLOUTED SOME BASIC THINGS LIKE WHAT VICTOR MENTIONED HERE OFTEN, BUT STILL DID WELL..THEN THERE WERE OTHERS... THE 80-20 % PRINCIPLE HOLDS TRUE IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT YOUR STYLE

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Meet Lady Java

2010-08-14 Thread jitesh dundas
I think Fabrizio is right on this point.. I saw the video..interesting..but does it reflect anything on java as a technical aspect.. A woman with fancy clothes could be distracting...to your work..Isnt it? I prefer simple and formal stuff .. Fashion statements always consider the location

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Oracle Java suit -- could Google Web Toolkit be next?

2010-08-14 Thread jitesh dundas
on a higher note..seems like oracle is going to make java a component in its suite of packages soon..i think i mentioned my point a few mnths back on this.. didnt quite expect things to start getting changed so soon..:) larry sure is cost effective...:)..really trims down the costs .. the

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Oracle Java suit -- could Google Web Toolkit be next?

2010-08-14 Thread jitesh dundas
I really dont want to see browser related issues again..We have enough issues already.. jd On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote: and in an interesting twist... HTML5 will become a fee-charging Oracle licensed technology, while Adobe continues to offer

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: What could Oracle possibly be scheming?

2010-08-14 Thread jitesh dundas
FUnny..But the point is.. Google is trying to sort of use GWT as a kind of JRE or mybe JDK technology..reshaping the package ,tweak it and then promote it in its own brand..oracle would hate this and of course larry can be assured to pounce on this.. i m not surprised by these events - a little

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Dick, that's not how you compare strings!

2010-08-12 Thread jitesh dundas
That seems to be a collection of simple AI related searching matching techniques . Features include other types of validations authentications also, many of them unknowingly implemented by us.. I am not sure what you show is what Dick meant by features the discussion being lost.. Dick,please

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Dick, that's not how you compare strings!

2010-08-12 Thread jitesh dundas
. And that the string compare has really nothing to do with the closure example as all. On Aug 12, 8:47 pm, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: That seems to be a collection of simple AI related searching matching techniques . Features include other types of validations authentications also

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Dick, that's not how you compare strings!

2010-08-12 Thread jitesh dundas
Yeah,...could we please come to the core of this discussion please... On 8/12/10, Reinier Zwitserloot reini...@gmail.com wrote: They are all EXACT matching algorithms, not case insensitive, collation-similar, etc string matches. i.e., this is wildly off-topic. On Aug 12, 10:10 am, Amarjeet

Re: [The Java Posse] Scala is complete esoteric nonsense!

2010-08-08 Thread jitesh dundas
but there is surely no better point than the point on the PM's choice of using Scala or not? Regards, Jitesh Dundas On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Liam Knox liamjk...@gmail.com wrote: I am a very realistic chap. Scala does not live in the same light as Java vs C++ All I am hearing is 'I like Scala

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Scala is complete esoteric nonsense!

2010-08-08 Thread jitesh dundas
, Jitesh Dundas On 8/8/10, Liam Knox liamjk...@gmail.com wrote: Productivity: Why aren't companies buying Scala if it is so productive? I really don't get this. If everyone was a Genius you could define an infinitely concise language with infinite productivity. My assessment of Scala

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Scala is complete esoteric nonsense!

2010-08-08 Thread jitesh dundas
Agreed Victor..However, these are also brain-storming sessions that seem to bring out new things for us.. Maybe to a limit, as what Kevin Liam said, things are alright .only to a point.. So finally, what and how do you measure Scala Java wrt complexity and readibility. regards, jd On 8/8/10,

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Scala and Java spec size

2010-08-07 Thread jitesh dundas
I agree with you on this.. To be honest, defining complexity in terms of the metrics is a big task and the scope changes for each condition..or state in the language.not even perception, actually the third party outlook or environmental expectations has to be taken.. regards, jd On Sat, Aug 7,

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Scala and Java spec size

2010-08-07 Thread jitesh dundas
I think we should keep the same kind of metrics ( familiarity level ) for complexity measurement at different levels..is the language being used in universities or industries or other places.. this will affect the complexity measurements.. interesting point .. jd On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 4:55 PM,

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Scala and Java spec size

2010-08-06 Thread jitesh dundas
that is what novice people want.. Specs reading is for experts interests.. I am in the second category as reading specs does boost your efficiency. Fabrizio Sir, you might like adding the last point of reading specs in your article (really interesting article on improving efficiency) Regards, Jitesh

Fwd: [The Java Posse] Re: Scala and Java spec size

2010-08-06 Thread jitesh dundas
-- Forwarded message -- From: jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 18:44:44 +0530 Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Scala and Java spec size To: Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com I never meant the size of the specifications,rather the type ( even readibility

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Scala and Java spec size

2010-08-06 Thread jitesh dundas
) The Scala spec is 111 lines shorter, a reduction of roughly 30% So I could, in one sense, claim that Scala is 30% simpler than Java. I just don't know if it's a particularly useful sense :) On 6 August 2010 14:20, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Virus in the forums?

2010-08-04 Thread jitesh dundas
the virus is recursive after all... On Aug 3, 7:27 pm, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: Ok Kevin.:)... I hope I can chip in too.Silliness is worth the efforts sometimes... regards, jd On 8/3/10, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote: Right question, wrong thread.  We're

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Virus in the forums?

2010-08-03 Thread jitesh dundas
what about the functionalities like rmi,jni, which java has..does scala have such features too.. how do you find n/w based functions in scala (as in java) regards, jd On 8/3/10, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote: and object-oriented :) On 3 August 2010 11:53, Christian Catchpole

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Virus in the forums?

2010-08-03 Thread jitesh dundas
, Viktor Klang viktor.kl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:14 PM, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: what about the functionalities like rmi,jni, which java has..does scala have such features too.. how do you find n/w based functions in scala (as in java) Since Scala can call

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Virus in the forums?

2010-08-03 Thread jitesh dundas
be self-referential, metaphor is also fine i.e. recursive, with the ability to map values to other values On 3 August 2010 15:41, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: interesting.. What I meant was that is scala having such in-built functionalities ?Seems like a No to me.. Anyways, Scala

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Virus in the forums?

2010-08-03 Thread jitesh dundas
Ok Kevin.:)... I hope I can chip in too.Silliness is worth the efforts sometimes... regards, jd On 8/3/10, Kevin Wright kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com wrote: Right question, wrong thread. We're all busy trying to be silly here :P On 3 August 2010 19:13, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Google Engineer Decries Complexity of Java, C++

2010-08-02 Thread jitesh dundas
If you make a simple website with not much complex functionalities, then python/php will do fine.. however, if you have complex routines with logic processing filters (needed java like features e.g. rmi ),then I do feel java fits in well.. its all in the Requirements Specifications Analysis

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Google Engineer Decries Complexity of Java, C++

2010-08-02 Thread jitesh dundas
Agreed..I don't know much about projects using Scala in the Indian IT industry. in terms of usage, Scala lags behind Java/.Net ... So please give me a reason why I need to use Scala.Any monopolistic features that it has and others don't..why should PMs consider Scala.. No offense to Scala. I

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Google Engineer Decries Complexity of Java, C++

2010-08-02 Thread jitesh dundas
with polymorphism and pattern matching It's an effective combination that underpins the powerful and flexible 2.8 collections library. I've also found Scala to be very, very good for creating internal DSLs (just take a look at ScalaTest) On 2 August 2010 12:40, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Bad benchmarks was fastest way to parse

2010-07-30 Thread jitesh dundas
RMI and other advanced memory concepts in java might interest you.. your ability to measure the performance of C/C++ and Java integration might also be worth looking at.. Which is the best way to implement pointer-like functionalities in pure java..? I like this concept, but java is not meant

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Bad benchmarks was fastest way to parse

2010-07-30 Thread jitesh dundas
http://www.google.co.in/gwt/x?source=mu=http%3A%2F%2Fpublib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/realtime/v2r0/topic/com.ibm.rt.doc.20/diag/tools/jitpd_aot_fail.htmlwsi=89ce4db225e3d6ffei=aetSTKyOFZGguQPu8LGmAwwsc=ti have a look at this too... jd On 7/30/10, Stuart McCulloch mccu...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Droid X self-destructs if you try to mod it..

2010-07-21 Thread jitesh dundas
The issue here is that the estimated risks that are seen in the future on this.. Android or any other,the problem is on how well we solve that problem and that is where research comes into picture. It is not abt reinventing the wheel,rather making a better wheel for that env..your invention

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Choosing a Java web framework.

2010-07-16 Thread jitesh dundas
+1.. JSF is good for security purposes and t he reason that it is in demand (again :)..) is the back-end security with integration that makes life so easy.. It is the ease of business logic and sense that matters, not the framework integration efforts down the drain.. Regards, JD On Fri, Jul

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Petition to Open Source JavaFX

2010-07-16 Thread jitesh dundas
To be honest, Oracle is going to customize this framework and use it for competing with MS. Plain and simple. You will see some new App Server or a compiled package coming up with Java a part of it or java being tuned up to suite Oracle suite of products..Nothing new in its strategy. Regards, jd

Re: [The Java Posse] New Onion video about Apple

2010-07-15 Thread jitesh dundas
nice.. hehehe... Thanks, jd On 7/15/10, Rakesh rakesh.mailgro...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.theonion.com/video/new-apple-friend-bar-gives-customers-someone-to-ta,17693/ hehehe Rakesh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups The Java Posse group. To

Re: [The Java Posse] Is functional programming abstract nonsense?

2010-07-15 Thread jitesh dundas
I actually believe that every language has its age and that no language is dead per se until it stops changing. FP somehow does not map according to the current requirements of the people. That seems to be the issue.. AGain, FP is really good. The problem is that people dont want to accept that.

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-14 Thread jitesh dundas
+1.. Especially when in many-to-many relation ships ,all that complexity is handled like a piece of cake...:).. Regards, jd On 7/14/10, Moandji Ezana mwa...@gmail.com wrote: The thing I find most useful about Hibernate is that when you have a lot of tables of inter-related data, it really

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-14 Thread jitesh dundas
I am not sure if Hibernate would responsible for the slow motion.. There are many possibilities including database issues,bad coding,ui issues. Still, are we concluding that hibernate will give slower results compared to other components? I would caution against that generalisation.. In any

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-14 Thread jitesh dundas
Precisely what I was about to say in a few minutes..Peter, you read my mind.. It is not about HIbernate being slow or the software having issues of redundancy. The problem is how we implement Hibernate..That said, we need to understand how we are handlinig the xml file defnitions and relationship

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-14 Thread jitesh dundas
, then that would *definitely be a bottleneck! On 14 July 2010 13:25, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure if Hibernate would responsible for the slow motion.. There are many possibilities including database issues,bad coding,ui issues. Still, are we concluding that hibernate will give

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-13 Thread jitesh dundas
Actually, the point here is not just about changes in technology, but your change in the interpretation and use of the same. If you are using the same way of problem solving, I would like to question your progress in handling issues in coding and even project mgt. have you improved your cycle of

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-13 Thread jitesh dundas
: On 13 July 2010 14:52, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.itwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/13/10 14:41 , jitesh dundas wrote: *+1* Have you heard of Hibernate/Spring for hiding DB related issues.. Not a single line of Db related statement

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-13 Thread jitesh dundas
: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 15:40, jitesh dundas jbdun...@gmail.com wrote: I think XML is a really good way of reducing the coding efforts..What is wrong with XML...HIbernate uses XML so I guess that is one of the strengths of the same.. I can tell you what is wrong with XML: It takes

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-13 Thread jitesh dundas
I beg to differ.. We cannot measure or comment on what movies say..Maybe Kurzweil is right, but I do agree that machines are becoming better. There is so much work happening at the decision level as transaction level systems are almost done now(or easy to implement)... Layers over layers get

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-13 Thread jitesh dundas
direction...Hibernate too, is one of those, but it does need some fixes... Thanks for the update . Regards, jd On 7/14/10, Peter Becker peter.becker...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/07/10 22:41, jitesh dundas wrote: Have you heard of Hibernate/Spring for hiding DB related issues.. It hides them so

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-13 Thread jitesh dundas
Fabrizio, I agree with you in some aspects,but hibernate is serving a lot of purposes in abstraction of code..Which software doesn't have issues? Again, improvements are needed,but I disagree that this is a bad e.g.. Why don't you cite another eg. on this... Regards, jd -- You received this

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