Re: [The Java Posse] Mushroom season - New language each year

2010-09-07 Thread twitter.com/nfma
can you beat this with your stack? ;-) http://www.rubyinside.com/obie-fernandezs-hashrocket-builds-your-web-app-in-3-days-698.html On 7 September 2010 13:12, Glenn Bech glenn.b...@gmail.com wrote: And no I don't see an overall business benefit for a large team moving to Scala from Java at

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Can code katas make you a better programmer?

2010-08-13 Thread twitter.com/nfma
As everything in life there must be a balance. If you only focus on writing code solo at work, never reflect, never practice, never interact with other people or study their work, you are not going to make it only by yourself. I dont think money is a problem because most conference talks are

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Can code katas make you a better programmer?

2010-08-13 Thread twitter.com/nfma
On 13 August 2010 10:57, Mario Fusco mario.fu...@gmail.com wrote: Time is a huge problem. I don't have a family, so I can spend lots of my free time honeying my skills and I still feel that I'm going slow. Time IS the only problem. This is matter of perception... and how much you expect

Re: [The Java Posse] Can code katas make you a better programmer?

2010-08-12 Thread twitter.com/nfma
I've done many code katas before and even presented a kata a year ago in the company I was working at that time. I dont do it as often as I should due to lack of discipline... I usually do katas on things I want to improve like exercises on refactorings, algorithms, patterns or to internalise

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Scala is complete esoteric nonsense!

2010-08-03 Thread twitter.com/nfma
Maybe it's useful to read Paul Graham's essayhttp://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html and for the ones that got convinced Steve Yegge'shttp://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/04/lisp-is-not-acceptable-lisp.html . I think it might put some water on language wars On 3 August 2010 18:28, Dick Wall

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Google Engineer Decries Complexity of Java, C++

2010-07-29 Thread twitter.com/nfma
I don't know about Scala but even today someone posted on the clojure mailing list a job opening... and Scala being more popular, I think there must be jobs out there... On 29 July 2010 20:43, Mario Fusco mario.fu...@gmail.com wrote: Does Scala count as a replacement for Java's APIs? The 2.8

Re: [The Java Posse] Google Engineer Decries Complexity of Java, C++

2010-07-24 Thread twitter.com/nfma
I think for the same reasons that twitter started using Scala and Facebook started compiling PHP to C++... On 24 July 2010 11:06, Blanford euroscript...@gmail.com wrote: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/07/23/1838243 I have wondered this for years, how Java could be the

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Implement CAPTCHA in j2ee app

2010-07-24 Thread twitter.com/nfma
We use recatcha and had no problems what so ever... it's very simple to use. On 24 July 2010 07:58, Steven Herod steven.he...@gmail.com wrote: Used this with some success http://jcaptcha.sourceforge.net/ On Jul 24, 8:20 am, phm pritam.mun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Has any one

Re: [The Java Posse] Google Groups

2010-07-16 Thread twitter.com/nfma
you can use it in google reader too On 16 July 2010 12:39, Wildam Martin mwil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:13, Vince O'Sullivan vjosulli...@gmail.com wrote: Is Google Groups the only way to view this forum? I read it over my gmail account. -- Martin Wildam -- You

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
On 15 July 2010 11:15, Moandji Ezana mwa...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 3:52 PM, twitter.com/nfma nuno.filipe.marq...@gmail.com wrote: A year ago I built an app without hibernate, just straight jdbc. Didn't have to know about hibernate interceptors and transformers and what

Re: [The Java Posse] Choosing a Java web framework.

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
I would use Play! too. I also found that SpringMVC is not so bad... On 15 July 2010 11:55, Edward Gabriel Moraru edward.mor...@gmail.comwrote: I'm a fan of Stripes (http://www.stripesframework.com), that has the goal of being a better Struts version 1. It's based on annotations (no XML config

Re: [The Java Posse] Choosing a Java web framework.

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
On 15 July 2010 12:00, Moandji Ezana mwa...@gmail.com wrote: All Java web frameworks seem pretty poor, to me. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Carl Jokl carl.j...@gmail.com wrote: I have used Struts 1.0 back in the past and was reading up on Struts 2.0 thinking that this might be a

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Is functional programming abstract nonsense?

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
On 15 July 2010 14:05, Nick nwbr...@gmail.com wrote: FP has never really left academia anyway I hear this claim all the time. Erlang is of course the obvious counter-example, it was developed by and for the telecommunications industry. And F# and Clojure are more recently examples of

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Is functional programming abstract nonsense?

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
On 15 July 2010 14:19, Wildam Martin mwil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 09:54, Mario Fusco mario.fu...@gmail.com wrote: What always surprise me is that it often looks more similar to a religious or at least ideological discussion than a technical one. Could please somebody

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Is functional programming abstract nonsense?

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
On 15 July 2010 14:35, Carl Jokl carl.j...@gmail.com wrote: I might argue that in the case of Object Oriented programming, a big aspect of making it natural to learn is the way it mimics the real world. Objects can be created which mimic real world objects. The ability to identify an object

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Is functional programming abstract nonsense?

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
LOL On 15 July 2010 14:49, Carl Jokl carl.j...@gmail.com wrote: I agree but what are Utility classes and FooManagers and similar? Isn't it that we need verbs in the language and lack a decent abstraction like a first class function? That depends if FooManager is and instance of

Re: [The Java Posse] Choosing a Java web framework.

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
You're right! That's why I said it's not so bad... (still bad though) To be honest I'd rather not use any web framework, but I found SpringMVC to be bearable... On 15 July 2010 14:58, Moandji Ezana mwa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM, twitter.com/nfma nuno.filipe.marq

Re: [The Java Posse] Choosing a Java web framework.

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
or at least because I have to work with it daily, I've convinced myself that it's bearable... On 15 July 2010 15:02, twitter.com/nfma nuno.filipe.marq...@gmail.comwrote: You're right! That's why I said it's not so bad... (still bad though) To be honest I'd rather not use any web framework

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Choosing a Java web framework.

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
I used to have those kinds of urges before... once I spent £400 in 14 books at Amazon... On 15 July 2010 15:19, Carl Jokl carl.j...@gmail.com wrote: I just bought Groovy in Action Second Edition from the Manning Early Access program. I hope you are happy! Curse Manning for always having a

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Is functional programming abstract nonsense?

2010-07-15 Thread twitter.com/nfma
It's also funny that OO today is not what Alan Kay meanthttp://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~ram/pub/pub_jf47ht81Ht/doc_kay_oop_enwhen he coined the term... On 15 July 2010 15:53, Kirk kirk.pepperd...@gmail.com wrote: OO is just a better way to organize code then what was previously being used.

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Rumours of Java's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

2010-07-13 Thread twitter.com/nfma
On 13 July 2010 14:52, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.itwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/13/10 14:41 , jitesh dundas wrote: *+1* Have you heard of Hibernate/Spring for hiding DB related issues.. Not a single line of Db related statement is

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: It is hard to be a good developer

2010-07-12 Thread twitter.com/nfma
I usually tend to put things in a different perspective. if you grade all the people doing Software from 0-10. Where Zero is someone that just started fresh on its first job and Ten are The Kent Becks, The Rich Hickeys, The Jim Weiriches, etc... of this world. Where are you in the grade? On 12

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: It is hard to be a good developer

2010-07-12 Thread twitter.com/nfma
also aware of the traphttp://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download;jsessionid=75349F37C5661FF2326B3F4D89DF95E2?doi=10.1.1.64.2655rep=rep1type=pdf. So, I'd rather err to the lower end... On 12 July 2010 21:14, twitter.com/nfma nuno.filipe.marq...@gmail.comwrote: Well Kirk you definitely are a 10

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: It is hard to be a good developer

2010-07-12 Thread twitter.com/nfma
On 12 July 2010 23:50, Wildam Martin mwil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 21:05, twitter.com/nfma nuno.filipe.marq...@gmail.com wrote: I usually tend to put things in a different perspective. if you grade all the people doing Software from 0-10. Where Zero is someone

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: JCP.ORG down ?

2010-06-02 Thread twitter.com/nfma
Yes, I can see that too now but the website was down for at least 4 days... On 2 June 2010 11:53, Fabrizio Giudici fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.itwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/2/10 07:54 , Jan Goyvaerts wrote: I didn't know about the mirror - thanks ! BTW,

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: JCP.ORG down ?

2010-06-01 Thread twitter.com/nfma
I think we should start a committee to discuss the problem of too many committees... On 1 June 2010 16:23, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't worry, there probably already a committee on it debating what to do! On Jun 1, 2:33 pm, Christian Catchpole christ...@catchpole.net

Re: [The Java Posse] Library for regex substitutions a la sed

2010-05-19 Thread twitter.com/nfma
you can do this in java: aa bb.replaceAll((aa) (bb), $2$1) = bbaa On 19 May 2010 23:10, honce jwho...@gmail.com wrote: aa bb + /(aa) (bb)/$2$1/ = bbaa Does a FOSS one exist? I'm planning to hack something together but thought I would ask first. My Google Foo has not been successful on

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Friends of Linux?

2010-05-09 Thread twitter.com/nfma
ie. All my friends uses msn messenger, then I would use pidgin, but then I can use webcam And then setting up webcam on linux is another story. I have the inverse story. I have a webcam which I just plug in to linux and it just works, nothing to do. With windows no driver seemed to work. I

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Seven Languages in Seven Weeks

2010-04-28 Thread twitter.com/nfma
On 28 April 2010 08:09, Wildam Martin mwil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 00:16, twitter.com/nfma nuno.filipe.marq...@gmail.com wrote: In my experience, the horizon widening was big enough to pay off for every second I spent learning new languages. I am curious how you

Re: [The Java Posse] Seven Languages in Seven Weeks

2010-04-27 Thread twitter.com/nfma
In my experience, the horizon widening was big enough to pay off for every second I spent learning new languages. If I had more time, I would, definitely, play with a lot more... On 27 April 2010 17:53, Wildam Martin mwil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 15:50, Jan Goyvaerts

Re: [The Java Posse] please explain the desire for a dynamic typing language

2010-04-24 Thread twitter.com/nfma
I do agree that each language has it's strengths and weaknesses but they're (at the least the ones being discussed) all general purpose languages and there's nothing you can't do with one that you can't do with another. Sure, most people wouldn't write a web app in C or an operating system in Java

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: please explain the desire for a dynamic typing language

2010-04-23 Thread twitter.com/nfma
I agree with Misko 100%. I have yet to meet someone that wrote an app in a dynamic language using TDD that didn't have the same kind of experience that Misko had. Everyone seems to be frustrated when going back to Java with the verbosity of the language, lack of high level constructs and the

Re: [The Java Posse] The 'Thoroughly Modern' Development Environment From Hell

2010-04-23 Thread twitter.com/nfma
I also agree that SCM is the smallest of their problems... The only problem I see with CVS is the non-atomic commits that sometimes make everyone waste a lot of time cleaning up when, for instance, something goes wrong with the network during the commit... It's good to go slow and do one thing at

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: please explain the desire for a dynamic typing language

2010-04-23 Thread twitter.com/nfma
functionality. On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 3:26 PM, twitter.com/nfma nuno.filipe.marq...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Misko 100%. I have yet to meet someone that wrote an app in a dynamic language using TDD that didn't have the same kind of experience that Misko had. Everyone seems