Karsten Silz wrote:
I doubt that 90% of users just use 100 apps - I counted more than 30
on my iPhone that I use at around once a week or more (some I use
several times a day) if I'm not on the road.
I only gave reference numbers, not realistic figures.
You would probably need to survey a c
Karsten Silz wrote:
Number of apps in the store show what platform developers are
interested in which is (now) an important indicator of platform health
(that's why everybody and their dog opens an app store). Phones are
consumer devices, and to consumers more is betters, so the 140k Apple
apps
Karsten Silz wrote:
On Feb 5, 1:06 am, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
Yes, of course. So little progress in 15 years, I'd say.
Gracenote is based on CDDB which started out as a voluntary "CD info
submit" service in in 94/95 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
CDDB#History). Looks like nobody (in
On Feb 5, 2:38 pm, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> Thus, if by knowing
> usage statistics you learn that 90% of Android people use only 100 out
> of 20.000 apps (just some number at random) and that also 90% of Apple
> people use 100 out of 500.000 apps, then it's useless to compare the
> store sizes, b
On Feb 5, 2:22 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> Even if you had carefully laid out stats on the app store, it's still
> utterly useless.
Number of apps in the store show what platform developers are
interested in which is (now) an important indicator of platform health
(that's why everybody and t
On Feb 5, 2:22 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> If apps available on a platform was an indication of quality, we'd all
> be using windows instead of mac os x, which just goes to show how
> stupid that argument is.
90+x% of us use Windows. When Windows established that market share
in the 90s it
On Feb 5, 1:06 am, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> Yes, of course. So little progress in 15 years, I'd say.
Gracenote is based on CDDB which started out as a voluntary "CD info
submit" service in in 94/95 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
CDDB#History). Looks like nobody (including you! ;-) submitted yo
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 14:22, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> The question is: How many _quality_ apps are available? Pick
> everything you'd like to do with your phone, and check if there's a
> quality app for it.
Full ACK! And how stable the whole thing is (even after installing 20 apps).
--
Mar
Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
Even if you had carefully laid out stats on the app store, it's still
utterly useless.
If apps available on a platform was an indication of quality, we'd all
be using windows instead of mac os x, which just goes to show how
stupid that argument is.
The question is: Ho
Even if you had carefully laid out stats on the app store, it's still
utterly useless.
If apps available on a platform was an indication of quality, we'd all
be using windows instead of mac os x, which just goes to show how
stupid that argument is.
The question is: How many _quality_ apps are ava
Karsten Silz wrote:
On Feb 5, 1:31 am, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
I suppose that the download distribution data for the apps in the store
aren't publicly available, do I?
No. Apple even doesn't distinguish between apps bought and free apps
downloaded. Have I mentioned they are control f
On Feb 5, 1:31 am, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> I suppose that the download distribution data for the apps in the store
> aren't publicly available, do I?
No. Apple even doesn't distinguish between apps bought and free apps
downloaded. Have I mentioned they are control freaks?
--
You received thi
The punch card era of computing may be the last that leaves any
discernible record of the information technology of our era to future
archeologist. All the media since then will likely not survive the
centuries and this time period will effectively appear as a "dark
ages".
To think we've not yet i
On Feb 5, 12:28 am, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> >http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/02/power-crazed-apple-demands-developer...
>
> It's getting ridicolous. I wonder how longer Google Maps will stay on
> the iPhone.
Yep, that goes too far. Apple - Google relationship seems to have
turned from "business"
On Feb 4, 9:39 am, Casper Bang wrote:
> When I say "odd reasons" it's not to offend you, but due to personal
> experiences. Even my own father (who has an iPhone as recommended by
> me) can't quite figure iTunes out and is annoyed at how often it
> crashes and really just wants to be able to mount
Karsten Silz wrote:
Most of us probably just have, say ten thousand music tracks max, yet
the online music stores have north of five million tracks. Now even
if we assume that 80% of them don't sell a single copy per year
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Tail#Criticism), that still
leave
On Feb 4, 5:48 am, Robert Casto wrote:
> Really, who needs 140,000 apps when 10,000 good ones will do.
If you tell Microsoft that Office is bloated and everybody just uses
ten percent of the functionality, then Microsoft replies: "Yeah, but
everybody uses a different ten percent!" There's some t
Karsten Silz wrote:
Back in 1995 I had better cataloging capabilities of my music (of
course, data entry was manual, but no other choice at the time) and
frankly I'd have expected much better stuff in 2010!!
Can't you edit the song information by hand in iTunes, too?
Yes, of course.
On Feb 4, 1:17 am, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> I'd like to have an open system (I'm not saying FLOSS, I'm saying open
> to competition), not because I want to copy files by hand, but because
> I'd like competition, which means better products.
Closed systems compete, too. All online video shops fo
Casper Bang wrote:
And the purity continues:
http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/02/power-crazed-apple-demands-developer-axes-mention-of-android-from-iphone-app/
It's getting ridicolous. I wonder how longer Google Maps will stay on
the iPhone.
--
Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Ma
Well, if they don't mention it, maybe it will just go away.
On Feb 5, 9:07 am, Casper Bang wrote:
> And the purity continues:
>
> http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/02/power-crazed-apple-demands-developer...
>
> On Feb 4, 10:25 pm, Peter Becker wrote:
>
>
>
> > The days when "soft scrolling" was
And the purity continues:
http://www.eurodroid.com/2010/02/power-crazed-apple-demands-developer-axes-mention-of-android-from-iphone-app/
On Feb 4, 10:25 pm, Peter Becker wrote:
> The days when "soft scrolling" was an impressive feat. But working with
> some guys who started with punch cards
The days when "soft scrolling" was an impressive feat. But working with
some guys who started with punch cards and soldering irons I don't try
to pull the "been here for long" card anymore :-)
One day I might go to Warpstock, though -- after all that is still an
annual conference, so OS/2 just
Christian Catchpole wrote:
You think talking MS-DOS TSR's dates you? How about 8 bit Commodore
64, assigning the vertical blanking interrupt to a SID player or
similar.
Ahhh that bygone youth :-((
--
Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager
Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work.
You think talking MS-DOS TSR's dates you? How about 8 bit Commodore
64, assigning the vertical blanking interrupt to a SID player or
similar.
On Feb 4, 4:36 pm, RogerV wrote:
> On Jan 30, 9:12 pm, Christian Catchpole
> wrote:
>
> > But as I think about it, I'm taking a new perspective. We all
> I like iTunes so I must have "odd reasons". Who needs an app where
> you can buy, organize, search and sync all your media? Real men copy
> files by hand.
When I say "odd reasons" it's not to offend you, but due to personal
experiences. Even my own father (who has an iPhone as recommended by
m
On Jan 30, 9:12 pm, Christian Catchpole
wrote:
> But as I think about it, I'm taking a new perspective. We all think
> that "in the future" we will have simpler, cleaner easier to use,
> "Minority Report" devices. But until that happens, we all *need* unix
> shells and root access to get anythi
I read this and the song "Welcome to the Hotel California" popped in my
head.
So, this is all pushing me to look at a Nexus One. I'm not going T-Mobile.
Lousy coverage where I live. I have Verizon and when it comes out in the
Spring, I think everyone is going to be taking it seriously.
Really, wh
Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
(rather than e.g. "1st Brandenburgische Konzerte") or whatever.
... of course with a better German than mine... (shame).
--
Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager
Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere."
java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalw
Karsten Silz wrote:
- I like iTunes so I must have "odd reasons". Who needs an app where
you can buy, organize, search and sync all your media? Real men copy
files by hand.
Not so sarcastic comment ;-)
I'd like to have an open system (I'm not saying FLOSS, I'm saying open
to competition)
On Feb 2, 4:21 pm, Casper Bang wrote:
> More evidence of
> dictatorship:http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/02/02/apple-stanza-usb/?utm_source=fee...)
The motto of my favorite sitcom "Seinfeld" was "No hugging, no
learning". Now this ain't "Seinfeld", so I want to virtually hug all
the discussion pa
oooh... That puts the Nexus One equal or beyond the 3gs now?
On Feb 3, 9:08 am, Casper Bang wrote:
> Looks like Google finally decided to flick Apple the finger,
> yay:http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/02/nexus-one-gets-a-software-update-e...
>
> On Feb 2, 4:21 pm, Casper Bang wrote:
>
>
>
> >
Looks like Google finally decided to flick Apple the finger, yay:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/02/nexus-one-gets-a-software-update-enables-multitouch/
On Feb 2, 4:21 pm, Casper Bang wrote:
> More evidence of
> dictatorship:http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/02/02/apple-stanza-usb/?utm_source=fee.
More evidence of dictatorship:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2010/02/02/apple-stanza-usb/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Techcrunch+(TechCrunch)
On Feb 1, 11:48 pm, Christian Catchpole
wrote:
> I came from the era of the Amiga. An awesomely design personal
> computer for th
I came from the era of the Amiga. An awesomely design personal
computer for the time. It could primitively muti-task in 128K of
RAM. Why? Because multi-tasking isn't hard if you get your OS and
CPU architecture right to start with. I saw the dominance of the PC
market, not because it was bette
I really wasn't trying to go down the path of arguing how evil apple
are. It may have sounded like I support their evil ways, but I was
just trying to open up the discussion that sometimes you can't have
everything. If the platform was as open as we would like, what would
the technical side effec
Paul Graham in his essay "Apple's Mistake" (http://www.paulgraham.com/
apple.html) about Apple's app store approval process wrote:
"When you look at the famous 1984 ad now, it's easier to imagine Apple
as the dictator on the screen than the woman with the hammer. In fact,
if you read the dictator's
Well, that's not the definition I was implying, the definition I was
implying was the dictionary/wikipedia one
"A dictator is a ruler (e.g. absolutist or autocratic) who assumes
sole and absolute power (sometimes but not always with military
control) but, without hereditary ascension such as an ab
Karsten Silz wrote:
Fourthly, no matter how cleverly
you install an app on whatever device, in the end it will send data
across the Internet for communication which is filtered and monitored
for keywords like any other traffic. Finally, think low-tech - from
what I read, criminals (who also wan
On Feb 1, 6:05 pm, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> Since we've argued about the extensive meanings of "dictatorship", let's
> put the things together. Let's talk, for example, about China.
>
> Apple's AppStore is subjected to state censorship in China, and as a
> result, again for instance, a few applic
> My point: Yes, Apple locks you in, but to a certain degree, the other
> guys (apps) and content providers do, too. But since it's not a
> dictatorship, you can choose which platform locks you in the least /
> the nicest.
And my point is, the lock-in on Apple stuff is horrendously pervasive.
if
On Feb 1, 5:38 pm, Casper Bang wrote:
> > But then you could argue that Apple is the
> > most benevolent dictator since they force you to chose from 140,000
> > apps where as Android forces you to chose from just 25,000... ;-)
>
> Not true, neither Android not Nokia "forces" you to do anything.
>
On Feb 1, 5:34 pm, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> You seem badly affected by Job's Distortion-of-Reality Field! :-) I've
> always installed whatever I wanted on my handheld devices (and later
> smartphones) since 1998, of course including my own stuff. There might
> be an app store by other vendors, bu
On Feb 1, 5:29 pm, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> Karsten Silz wrote:
>
> > AFAIK, you can't do that with any phone right now. Flash Player 10.1
> > is supposed to come for anything but the iPhone this year, so you may
> > be able to have Flash video in a couple of months. I don't know what
>
> Sorry
Since we've argued about the extensive meanings of "dictatorship", let's
put the things together. Let's talk, for example, about China.
Apple's AppStore is subjected to state censorship in China, and as a
result, again for instance, a few applications about Dalai Lama and
Buddhism are not avai
> But then you could argue that Apple is the
> most benevolent dictator since they force you to chose from 140,000
> apps where as Android forces you to chose from just 25,000... ;-)
Not true, neither Android not Nokia "forces" you to do anything.
Android comes with a pre-installed de-facto marke
Karsten Silz wrote:
On Feb 1, 3:49 pm, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
But it depends on the details: being free or not, all the three desktop
/ server operating systems allow me to install and run what I want (and
usually I can choose which o.s. I'll install on my computer); iPhone
doesn't.
Karsten Silz wrote:
AFAIK, you can't do that with any phone right now. Flash Player 10.1
is supposed to come for anything but the iPhone this year, so you may
be able to have Flash video in a couple of months. I don't know what
Sorry, but Jobs just said that there will never be Flash for iP
On Feb 1, 3:33 pm, Casper Bang wrote:
> Of course once people have invested significantly (in this case apps,
> music etc.) they will find it to pretty hard to leave.
Lock-in is different from dictatorship. You can't take native apps
from a platform and move them to another one; Adobe Flash/AIR
On Feb 1, 3:49 pm, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> But it depends on the details: being free or not, all the three desktop
> / server operating systems allow me to install and run what I want (and
> usually I can choose which o.s. I'll install on my computer); iPhone
> doesn't.
I think most phones don'
On Feb 1, 3:48 pm, Kevin Wright wrote:
> I want to be able to write my own Java and Scala apps for the device, and
> install them painlessly.
> In fact, I want to be able to use it for any content I already own
> AND for flash video.
AFAIK, you can't do that with any phone right now. Flash Playe
Don't think you read what I wrote earlier, and you seem very stuck in
the whole dictator semantics. So let me ask you directly, what happens
when in a couple of years, you get in bad standing with Apple or
something, but now have $3K of content tied to their platform?
Technically you may be free to
On Feb 1, 3:48 pm, Kevin Wright wrote:
> I want multi-touch
> I want a high resolution screen
> I want a reasonable battery life
> I want compatibility with a wide range of 3rd party peripherals
> I want an easy an convenient place to find applications, preferably rated
> according to the experien
The confluence of this technology marketing topic and Fourth-
Generation Warfare are essential for deep understanding. Eliminate
all the "armed" parts of 4GW, and what's left is what I'm talking
about. Culture is everything.
Steve Sobczak
On Feb 1, 8:12 am, Karsten Silz wrote:
> On Feb 1, 12:4
Karsten Silz wrote:
On Feb 1, 3:24 pm, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
Of course, there's the free market. If things were always like today, I
wouldn't be worried. But listening to opinions that see the marked
divided by iPhone and Android, I'd be worried in perspective.
I think that the smar
I want multi-touch
I want a high resolution screen
I want a reasonable battery life
I want compatibility with a wide range of 3rd party peripherals
I want an easy an convenient place to find applications, preferably rated
according to the experience of others
So far, it looks like apple meets all
On Feb 1, 3:24 pm, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> Of course, there's the free market. If things were always like today, I
> wouldn't be worried. But listening to opinions that see the marked
> divided by iPhone and Android, I'd be worried in perspective.
I think that the smartphone market will mature
Of course once people have invested significantly (in this case apps,
music etc.) they will find it to pretty hard to leave. Having grown up
in southern Denmark, we would occasionally find fleeing people in
small boats and made up rafts, who were trying to cross to our side of
the Baltic sea. The o
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Fabrizio Giudici <
fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it> wrote:
> Karsten Silz wrote:
>
> On Feb 1, 12:45 am, Steven Herod
> wrote:
>
>
> I think the iPhone is a dictatorship, and most people don't give a
> damn about democracy and freedom unless the dictatorship is a
Karsten Silz wrote:
On Feb 1, 12:45 am, Steven Herod wrote:
I think the iPhone is a dictatorship, and most people don't give a
damn about democracy and freedom unless the dictatorship is affecting
them directly.
Having grown up in a dictatorship (East Germany), I would define a
dictat
On Feb 1, 12:45 am, Steven Herod wrote:
> I think the iPhone is a dictatorship, and most people don't give a
> damn about democracy and freedom unless the dictatorship is affecting
> them directly.
Having grown up in a dictatorship (East Germany), I would define a
dictatorship as a form of govern
Steven Herod wrote:
I think the iPhone is a dictatorship, and most people don't give a
damn about democracy and freedom unless the dictatorship is affecting
them directly.
+1. Thanks.
--
Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager
Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere."
ja
> I understand
> that Android encourages you to intercept the message flow, so I'm
> curious how that works in practice.
In practice, Android has a truly unique way of doing this. You don't
have an arbitrary number of processes running constantly as per the
usual time-slice semantics. Rather, your
I know what Steve Jobs is doing to me, but he has very warm hands.
On Feb 1, 9:45 am, Steven Herod wrote:
> I think the iPhone is a dictatorship, and most people don't give a
> damn about democracy and freedom unless the dictatorship is affecting
> them directly.
>
> Which is why developers pratt
I think the iPhone is a dictatorship, and most people don't give a
damn about democracy and freedom unless the dictatorship is affecting
them directly.
Which is why developers prattle on about the closed nature of the
device and the general public keep rocking along to Miley Cyrus on
their iPhones
Cool. Well I hope it works out (or is working out already).
I wonder if Android will be able to handle the case transparency like
the iPhone can..
http://twitpic.com/10ltrt
On Jan 31, 11:04 pm, Chris Adamson wrote:
> Christian Catchpole Jan 30 09:12PM -0800:> I
> wonder, if there was no App s
Christian Catchpole Jan 30 09:12PM -0800:
I wonder, if there was no App store, you could install what you want.
Would people be throwing their iPhones down in disgust as they grind
to a halt, not because anything Apple has done but because people try
to use them beyond their ability.
Well, isn't
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