Re: [JAWS-Users] flexible website

2017-04-13 Thread Michele Thredgold
What a beautiful service! I started reading through it this morning, but had visitors and then took a nap so that I would be OK for tonight. I love how the Jewish Passover flows over into our Lord's last supper. How I love the Saviour! die on the cross tomorrow" and "Did Jesus eat a lot the nigh

[JAWS-Users] W10 slowing down when it starts.

2017-04-13 Thread Holger Fiallo
Using new W10, NVDA, current browser IE. Noticing that now my PC takes several minutes to restart when I restar my PC. Before it was very fast. What can I do to make it fast again. Did disc cleaning. There is sometime in start where you can go to uncheck apps to run unless you do it manually.

Re: [JAWS-Users] flexible website

2017-04-13 Thread Angel238
I feel I need to remind those on this list, it is not a religious list. People who aren't Christian shouldn't have to read such posts. Believing they are about a Jaws related subject. If posts as are these are posted on a non religious list, they should have appropriate subject lines. So peop

Re: [JAWS-Users] flexible website

2017-04-13 Thread kurt miller
Angel, Chill out!! Without God, you can't even explain how you are alive to even make this complaint. God bless your soul. > On Apr 13, 2017, at 7:38 AM, Angel238 wrote: > > I feel I need to remind those on this list, it is not a religious list. > People who aren't Christian shouldn't have to

Re: [JAWS-Users] flexible website

2017-04-13 Thread Tom
she just stated a basic fact. this is a jaws list -Original Message- From: kurt miller Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:20 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] flexible website Angel, Chill out!! Without God, you can't even explain how you are alive to even

Re: [JAWS-Users] flexible website

2017-04-13 Thread David Ferrin
The fact is if people want such signature lines or any kind of tag line we mostly ask if they would keep them short and not make another entire message out of them. With over 660 members on here it is safe to bet we have all faiths represented. Long drawn out signature lines mostly serve to in

[JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home

2017-04-13 Thread jyandt.martin
Morning all. I have never attempted to do this, so I am uncertain as to the process; but how do I access a wify signal from outside my home i.e., my brother-in-laws home in another city? Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-us

Re: [JAWS-Users] flexible website

2017-04-13 Thread Adrian Spratt
Hi, Angel. It was obviously intended for a friend and posted in error. It can happen. It happened once to me on this list, although you'll be relieved to know that my accidental post wasn't about religion. I admit I'm a little surprised she hasn't posted an apology. -Original Message- F

Re: [JAWS-Users] flexible website

2017-04-13 Thread David Ferrin
Before this gets out of hand folks let us shut this thread down. -Original Message- From: Tom Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] flexible website she just stated a basic fact. this is a jaws list -Original Message-

Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home

2017-04-13 Thread David Ferrin
The first thing you have to do is go to your brother in laws house and ask him for his password. More than a few hundred feet away and he might as well be on the moon for all the good it would do for you. -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 13, 201

[JAWS-Users] jaws on a tablet

2017-04-13 Thread claudette macon
are there any specifics needed to use jaws 17 on a wifi tablet? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Off topic posts.

2017-04-13 Thread Angel238
Again, this is not a religious sight. Nor one which is supposed to proselytize. I have no objections to such posts as that about which I complained. If they are posted on religious sites. Only Christians, it seems, choose to put religious oriented posts on sites which aren't specific to rel

Re: [JAWS-Users] Off topic posts.

2017-04-13 Thread Graham Smith
I don’t understand either why people have to try and show that they are religious, makes no sense, and I do not like seeing all of it in messages that are not related to religious lists.. > On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Angel238 wrote: > > Again, this is not a religious sight. Nor one which

Re: [JAWS-Users] Off topic posts.

2017-04-13 Thread Moderator
I can imagine that the original post was sent to this list in error, and having said that, folks should give that consideration before getting offended! If it was not sent in error, refrain from posting anything that is not Jaws related. Now, as Dave has already said, let's bring this one to a cl

[JAWS-Users] A look back at history:

2017-04-13 Thread Angel238
On this list, there have been references to "Freedom Scientific". The company which preceded the current company. Which now owns our adaptive screen reading and magnification products. I think it might be of interest to the newer users of Jaws to know: "Freedom Scientific" was not the first

Re: [JAWS-Users] flexible website

2017-04-13 Thread Kurt Miller
And I believe that if the original poster responds, she probably sent it to the wrong list, we all have done that so she should find this out first. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:23

Re: [JAWS-Users] Off topic posts.

2017-04-13 Thread David Ferrin
Enough already, we have three guys who police this list. If somebody requires being placed on moderated status, then we will do that, or whatever other action we feel is needed. Let us do our jobs that we have been doing for 11 and a half years this week. Note: retirement is in the not too

Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home

2017-04-13 Thread jyandt.martin
David: Okay. What is the next step? I am not sure if this would be "performed" in my internet settings, or what. Thanks for the reply. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to

Re: [JAWS-Users] Linking to internet from outside Home

2017-04-13 Thread David Ferrin
First of all let us both get on the same page. What have you done so far to connect to the internet? IE are you on wireless at this point ETC? -Original Message- From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:11 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [J

[JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread Subash
Hi listers, I am experiencing a strange issue windows 8.1 64 JAWS 16. When the computer boots up, everything works fine, but after it runs for awhile (an hour aprox), some of the rightside keys start behaving weird. E.g, the right alt key gets stuck to the control, so if I try to perform an actio

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread David Ferrin
Did you try another keyboard? -Original Message- From: Subash Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:31 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Hi listers, I am experiencing a strange issue windows 8.1 64 JAWS 16. When the computer boots up, everything wor

[JAWS-Users] [jaws-users-list] jaws on a tablet

2017-04-13 Thread claudette macon
what will i need on a wifi tablet to use jaws 17 to surf internet explorer For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread Marvin Atkins
Subash, My external keyboard has been doing this stuff ever since it's been connected to a Dell laptop using Win 8.1 and now Win 10 64 bit, version 1607 with JAWS latest build. My keyboard does this whenever I perform an action that requires a combination of the control & shift keys together

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread Subash
Hi Dave, no, I haven't thought of that, I will though. I guess I didn't think of that because when the computer boots everything works like a charm. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Use

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread Subash
Hi Marvin, does your keyboard work well when your laptop boots up? Also, if you use the keys on your laptop, does it work the same as the external keyboard or it works like it should? -Original Message- From: Marvin Atkins Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:17 AM To: jaws-users-list@ja

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread Marvin Atkins
Hi Subash, My external keyboard works perfectly all the time except when I use the control & shift key combination with any other key to perform some action. I don't use the laptop keyboard but I will experiment with it to see if I can create the same occurance and get back with you. Marvin

Re: [JAWS-Users] win 10 shut down

2017-04-13 Thread David Whitehead
hello; you can perform a shutdown from the desktop, also, you could, windows+x, up arrow enter on, shutdown or sign out sub-menu, or, you could create a shutdown shortcut/hotkey.        Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. -Original Me

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread David Ferrin
Always remember the rule of thumb, start with the easiest thing to fix first. -Original Message- From: Subash Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Hi Dave, no, I haven't thought of that, I will though. I gu

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread Mike B.
Howdy Señor Ferrin, Are you saying then, that the 1st thing to grab, IS NOT, a bleeping hammer?! LOL LOL Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-l

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread David Ferrin
Probably not, but keep one handy for step two in the process. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Howdy Señor Ferrin, Are you saying then, that the 1st thing to grab, IS NOT

Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:

2017-04-13 Thread Lenny McHugh
A little more information. In 1980 Dean Blazy started Maryland Computer Systems where he first released ITS , information through speech, it was based on an HP computer. Ted Hinter worked for Dean at that time. In 1980 I had the world's first talking computer linked to an IBM main frame compute

[JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters?

2017-04-13 Thread Kenny
Hello, I've been noticing JAWS speaking a lot of special extended characters when reviewing mail in Eudora Pro. Starting to drive me crazy! Characters like €™ and  to mention a few. I have punctuation set to "Most" for I do want to hear characters like quotes and hyphens spoken. Is there

Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:

2017-04-13 Thread Dave
Lenny, Your age is showing, man. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:22 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: A little more information. In 1980 Dean Blazy started Ma

[JAWS-Users] Using the Refresh this PC in W-10

2017-04-13 Thread Jim Flusche
Good morning Jaws users list, I was finally able to get the refresh this PC, to work for me. I tried this feature out several times a year ago, I could not get it to work for me. But lo-and-behold, it worked this time. I chose to keep my files. So after waiting for 90 minutes or so, I was on the

Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:

2017-04-13 Thread Angel238
Do you have a two digit cereal number? I always wondered whether those cereal numbers were given in numeric order. - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: A little more information. In 198

Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:

2017-04-13 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
Two digit serial numbers were for the DOS version, the JFW serial numbers began with 1000, I used to have 1218 until I got my JFW from the VA and the serial number went to six digits. Humberto -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Beh

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread Marvin Atkins
Hi Subash, I did recreate my scenario with the laptop keyboard. So, here's what I have discovered. I get my weird keyboard behavior when using the control & shift key combination with a specific key (depending on what application I am using) and this is true with the external keyboard or the

Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:

2017-04-13 Thread Ritz, Courtney L. (GSFC-7200)
I got mine in the DOS days, can't remember the number at that time. But the number I got when I got JFW has been a 5-digit one. Courtney -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Humberto Rodriguez Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017

Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:

2017-04-13 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
Lenny, I think it was a little later than 1985 when JAWS for DOS came out, maybe 1988 or 1989, I was also one of the first tu purchase it and remember clearly calling Henter-Joyce in Saint Petersburg with questions and having Ted Henter personally helping me and answering them. Humberto -Ori

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread Subash
Perhaps the hammer is the easiest thing, so maybe in a suttle way, he is saying just that? *grin* -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue. Howdy Señor Ferrin, Are you saying the

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread Subash
Hi Marvin, now that you mention this, I will do a trace and see if any particular key combination causes mine. Also, if it's a JAWS issue, I will unload and reload it and see what happens. Thanks for this, you have given me a working pointer to look into. If I findout anything I will you know, t

Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the Refresh this PC in W-10

2017-04-13 Thread Kathy Pingstock
Jim Will the update for the creator automatically be a part of the windows update? Kathy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jim Flusche Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject:

Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Stop JAWS from Speaking Extended Characters?

2017-04-13 Thread Mike B.
Hi Kenny, You can do it through the Jaws dictionary, or customize punctuation settings in the Setting Center default all applications. You're easiest bet is to set the punctuation to, Some, rather than, Most, in Jaws quick settings, Jaws key + V. Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Go Dod

Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 slowing down when it starts.

2017-04-13 Thread Kenny
Take a look at your Privacy settings. I was noticing the same thing. Had to go in there and turn off everything that Microsoft took it upon themselves to turn on. My PC now loads quickly again. Also make sure to checkout your WiFi network settings. Windows has a service that turns your PC into

Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:

2017-04-13 Thread Lenny McHugh
No, a 4 digit. They started at 1,000 but kept the first 200 for internal use. -Original Message- From: Angel238 Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history: Do you have a two digit cereal number? I always

Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:

2017-04-13 Thread Lenny McHugh
I may be wrong, memory is not what it use to be. I am now sweet 16 with 54 years of experience. I really thought it was 1985 when I had the demo version of the dos version. It was when I started working on the 16 million dollar road way management project And required a ibm pc as opposed to the

Re: [JAWS-Users] Using the Refresh this PC in W-10

2017-04-13 Thread Jim Flusche
Yes, at some time in the very near future, depends how old your computer is, you should get a notice about your privacy settings people say. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2

Re: [JAWS-Users] W10 slowing down when it starts.

2017-04-13 Thread Jim Flusche
Also, turn off all background apps you are not using. Turn off all live tiles you are not using as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kenny Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 6:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

Re: [JAWS-Users] A Weird Issue.

2017-04-13 Thread Marvin Atkins
Hi Subash, In my situation, unloading and loading JAWS does not solve anything. I will continue to use the work around but there is a hammer close by...just in case... Marvin -Original Message- From: Subash Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 5:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com S

Re: [JAWS-Users] A look back at history:

2017-04-13 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
Hello Lenny: Of course, a few years more or less makes no difference, young man. It so happens I am a few years older than you, born on June 1942. It may be that you are right but very few were sold early, I got mine in either 1988 or 1989 and had a lo serial number which I don't remember, altho

[JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word

2017-04-13 Thread John R. Vaughn
List, having a couple of issues, Running windows 10, Office 2010 and latest jaws 18 on a Toshiba laptop: 1. When I bring up a Word document, jaws announces the name of the document and at the end says "print view" Do we want to have documents in print view? Seems like there was a setting in op

Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word

2017-04-13 Thread Justin Williams
You want accessibility view. Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R. Vaughn Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 9:31 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word List, having a c

Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word

2017-04-13 Thread Justin Williams
Okay, check that, my pc is also on print view. I've had no issues that I know about, but I'm now curious to see what others are coming up with. Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R. Vaughn Sent: Thursday, Apri

Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word

2017-04-13 Thread Brian Lee
Hello John, It is really best to work in print view when using Word. Keystrokes such as Alt key with delete report the distance in inches between the cursor position and the edge of the paper. As you tab you also hear the distance from the left edge of the paper. When JAWS says that the cursor

Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word

2017-04-13 Thread Adrian Spratt
Print view is my default, and I believe it is recommended for accessibility. When another view comes up, as sometimes happens, I press alt-control-p to return to print view. As for the find function, you're right, the escape key used to work. In word 2010, it still does for me. I don't know why

Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word

2017-04-13 Thread Brian Lee
Correction: In step 6 of the steps I gave to change CTRL F to apply to the EditFind command, I said that you should press enter key when you find the EditFind command in the list of commands. That is not correct. Simply tab to the Press New Shortcut Key box. The revised steps are shown below:

Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word

2017-04-13 Thread Justin Williams
I thought he said that control f worke, but not escape. How do you make the escape work? Or, do I have that wrong? I might have that wrong. justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017

Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word

2017-04-13 Thread Adrian Spratt
Brian, This is useful information, as always, but it does seem a bit complicated. When I do a control-f search, JAWS reads the current line as soon as the result is found. It's critical not to press any key until JAWS has verbalized that line, or else JAWS gives only the option to search for t

Re: [JAWS-Users] Print view in MS word

2017-04-13 Thread Brian Lee
Hello Adrian, Yes, you are quite right! I didn't realize that when in the navigation pane pressing spacebar still goes result to result and JAWS speaks the found result. It seems to me that at one time using the navigation pane to find text didn't work very well and most people were making the c