Re: RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-19 Thread Helmut Tammen
It needs to recognize and specify how users can utilize portlets in both a server-centric manner and a client-centric manner. I think this is a good statement. A portal and especially a portal spec should support both technologies. The developer can than decide which technology he/she uses. I agr

RE: RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-19 Thread Gerry Reno
Raphael, I know you're unconvinced by any of the client-side technology arguments. But I will say that you should consider that the history of java is replete with examples of users rejecting "one-size fits all" solutions. They were many great "one size fits all" technologies that users did not

RE: RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-19 Thread Gerry Reno
Raphael, I know you're unconvinced by any of the client-side technology arguments. But I will say that you should consider that the history of java is replete with examples of users rejecting "one-size fits all" solutions. They were many great "one size fits all" technologies that users did not

RE: RE : RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-19 Thread Gregory Joseph
>What do you mean exactly by "usability not being taken into account" ? >It's not a very useful comment without further explanation of where you >find usability lacking. maybe i should have used the word "accessibility", in fact. (using html4 being a lack in this case) iframes lack accessibility

RE: RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-19 Thread Luta, Raphael (VUN)
De : Helmut Tammen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sorry, > > I´ve forgot to say that this version of the PDK is only > running with IE, > but the release 6.0 of SAP Enterprise Portal should be browser > independent (I´ve heard). Unfortunetly there is no PDK available yet. > > I didn´t want you to s

Re: RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-19 Thread Helmut Tammen
Sorry, I´ve forgot to say that this version of the PDK is only running with IE, but the release 6.0 of SAP Enterprise Portal should be browser independent (I´ve heard). Unfortunetly there is no PDK available yet. I didn´t want you to switch from Jetspeed to SAP EP neither did I want to leave t

RE : RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-19 Thread Luta, Raphael (VUN)
De : Gregory Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Raphaël Luta wrote: > >I just registered to check it out and, of course, it simply doesn't > >recognize my Mozilla Firebird as a supported client so I get a very > >ugly site. Thanks for reminding me why I so dislike client-side > >technologies :)

RE: RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-19 Thread Gregory Joseph
Raphaël Luta wrote: >I just registered to check it out and, of course, it simply doesn't >recognize my Mozilla Firebird as a supported client so I get a very >ugly site. >Thanks for reminding me why I so dislike client-side technologies :) Same with Mozilla1.4 (even without taking the pain to regi

Re: RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-14 Thread Gerry Reno
Hi Raphael, --- "Luta, Raphael (VUN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If I understand correctly your request in regards to the > JSR 168, you would like to be able to develop a client based portal > that leverages the portlet components developped against the JSR168 > API. Is that correct ? > >

RE : RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-08 Thread Luta, Raphael (VUN)
De : Gerry Reno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi Raphael, > > --- "Luta, Raphael (VUN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If I understand correctly your request in regards to the > > JSR 168, you would like to be able to develop a client based portal > > that leverages the portlet components dev

RE: RE : JSR-168 Article Part 1 in JavaWorld

2003-08-07 Thread Weaver, Scott
> Not exactly, the main user interface window would have in this model > a single DOM with no IFRAME (ie true content aggregation), the hidden > iFrame being used as a backround content cache to be used by the main > window to load content. And act as the physical requestor back to the server. Bu