[Jmol-users] Mac User Request and NIH site

2010-08-24 Thread Otis Rothenberger
I'm trying to feed GET returns from the NIH Chemical Identifier Resolver directly to Jmol without using the signed applet. My reasons for wanting to do this are not just Jmol related. I need to be able to feed other NIH data to JavaScript on my page - a JavaScript security violation under norma

Re: [Jmol-users] NIH Resource

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Otis Rothenberger wrote: > Bob, > > You can check me on the alpha-D-talose. I've been known to show the same > aldose confusion as some of my students. > > I'm pretty sure it's alpha-L-talose. The point is that like so many of these databases, they are not defin

Re: [Jmol-users] NIH Resource

2010-08-24 Thread Otis Rothenberger
Bob, We've been working on a Fisher configuration proof student model exercise using Jmol compare to have students follow the identity of the aldoses as they hack away at glucose from the top down. Consequently, we have good aldose SMILES and coordinates in an internal database. From this, I

Re: [Jmol-users] NIH Resource

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
sorry bug there... smilesUrlFormat = " http://cactus.nci.nih.gov/chemical/structure/%FILE/file?format=sdf&get3d=True "; for now On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: > You can do this yourself using > > set smilesUrlFormat " > http://cactus.nci.nih.gov/chemical/structure/%FILE

Re: [Jmol-users] NIH Resource

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
You can do this yourself using set smilesUrlFormat " http://cactus.nci.nih.gov/chemical/structure/%FILE/file?format=sdf&get3d=True "; and then the load commands below will work. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: > oh my oh my oh my > > I've changed the SMILES server ur

Re: [Jmol-users] NIH Resource

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
oh my oh my oh my I've changed the SMILES server url in 12.1 to this NIH server because it is so very fast and I am SO impressed -- superb conversion to 3D, even for steroids. Stereochemistry is good, conformation is good. Allene stereochemistry is missing, but incorrect SMILES bond stereochem

Re: [Jmol-users] hmm interesting surface map

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Pshemak Maslak wrote: > On 8/24/2010 4:28 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: > > Has anyone tried this? > > > > isosurface molecular map mo homo > > > > It seems to me that's an interesting way to see where a model might > > react. > > > > Bob > > Both HOMO and LUMO map

Re: [Jmol-users] hmm interesting surface map

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Pshemak Maslak wrote: > On 8/24/2010 4:28 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: > > Has anyone tried this? > > > > isosurface molecular map mo homo > > > > It seems to me that's an interesting way to see where a model might > > react. > > > > Bob > > Both HOMO and LUMO maps

Re: [Jmol-users] Version 12.08

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Pshemak Maslak wrote: > Hello, > > First of all Jmol is an amazing program and I am extremely impressed by > its rapid growth since I started using it about two moth ago. I have > difficult time keeping up with the updates. Kudos to the developers! > > > I have j

Re: [Jmol-users] hmm interesting surface map

2010-08-24 Thread Pshemak Maslak
On 8/24/2010 4:28 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: > Has anyone tried this? > > isosurface molecular map mo homo > > It seems to me that's an interesting way to see where a model might > react. > > Bob Both HOMO and LUMO maps of that kind are "standard" tools in Spartan, occasionally quite useful in

[Jmol-users] hmm interesting surface map

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
Has anyone tried this? isosurface molecular map mo homo It seems to me that's an interesting way to see where a model might react. Bob -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107

Re: [Jmol-users] camera dependent slab setting

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
Indeed! set rotationRadius (Angstroms) *Sets the nominal rotation radius for the model effectively setting the size of the model at zoom 100. Normally set to the radius that will contain within the screen the entire model when rotated relative to the default rotation center. * :) Bob On Mon,

Re: [Jmol-users] Possible problem with the representation of a double bond

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Shore, Jay wrote: > > I really like jmol’s multiple bond representation – it is the only > visualization tool that I know of that actually > that actually does multiple bonds. > > The distance between the cylinders (that represent a double bond) changes > when th

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol--was WinGAMESS and Avogadro

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
We think 12.0.1-12.0.7 had a bug that made it so that Jmol would not start for new users (so with no history file) That was fixed in 12.0.8, I thought. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Jonathan Gutow wrote: > Tim, > > First try starting by just double clicking on Jmol.jar...The Jmol.bat > file

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol 12.0.8 more data on unusual behavior

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
I'll look into it. I've been wondering about that myself, and now I have a good way to test it. Thanks. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Pshemak Maslak wrote: > I have reported in my previous e-mail that 12.0.8 (12 for short) is > significantly slower than 11.8.24 (11.8 for short). > > I have

Re: [Jmol-users] zShade and slab/depth

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
version=12.1.7_dev # new feature: zSlab, zDepth -- default 0,0; when equal, it means "use slab and depth" settings # new feature: slab and depth are variables and can be read and set as for any other On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Thomas Stout wrote: > > I would second that vote! > > Cheers,

[Jmol-users] Jmol 12.0.8 more data on unusual behavior

2010-08-24 Thread Pshemak Maslak
I have reported in my previous e-mail that 12.0.8 (12 for short) is significantly slower than 11.8.24 (11.8 for short). I have run a couple of simple scripts on an older computer directly on a desktop (no web-server involved). I have used an older windows xp machine 2.66 Ghz 4 GB memory Intel

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol--was WinGAMESS and Avogadro

2010-08-24 Thread Jonathan Gutow
Tim, First try starting by just double clicking on Jmol.jar...The Jmol.bat file probably hasn't been updated in a long time as Windows now starts jar files with a double click. Then try updating your Java version. There were some buggy initial releases of 1.6. I think they are beyond 1.6

Re: [Jmol-users] jmolScript() "show spin" bug?

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
oh -- exit also clears all pending timeOut scripts... On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: > Eric, here's the scoop. > > There are a few undocumented features of quit and exit, and yes, there was > a change there. (That we can certainly undo.) > > Right now: > > from the comman

Re: [Jmol-users] jmolScript() "show spin" bug?

2010-08-24 Thread Robert Hanson
Eric, here's the scoop. There are a few undocumented features of quit and exit, and yes, there was a change there. (That we can certainly undo.) Right now: from the command line: "exit" clears he script queue, stops all processes, including scripts, spinning, and minimization. "quit" stops any