Re: [julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-15 Thread Scott Jones
On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 3:14:22 AM UTC-4, Viral Shah wrote: Hi everyone, Some more details on NumFocus. When we joined NumFocus, Stefan joined their board. In addition, 5 people represent the Julia project in the NumFocus Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement - Tim Holy, Steve Johnson, John

Re: [julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-15 Thread Viral Shah
Hi everyone, Some more details on NumFocus. When we joined NumFocus, Stefan joined their board. In addition, 5 people represent the Julia project in the NumFocus Fiscal Sponsorship Agreement - Tim Holy, Steve Johnson, John Myles White, Jeff, and myself. This will be the group that manages the

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-15 Thread Brandon Booth
Any chance Julia Computing is working with any government agencies? I work for a federal agency and am making a pitch to make Julia available as an alternative to SAS and Stata. I've been given permission to use Julia for a current project with the expectation that I put together a business

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-14 Thread Jim Garrison
Here is a related question: Who will own and operate the julialang.org domain? Would you be willing to transfer it to NumFocus or a similar nonprofit, community entity? On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 10:55:00 AM UTC-7, Brian Granger wrote: Congrats on Julia Computing stuff! We (IPython/Jupyter)

Re: [julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-14 Thread Viral Shah
As much as I would like to do so, I also want to have enough funding for the Julia foundation (NumFocus) in place before transferring over community resources. We look at everything closely so that things don't fall through the cracks. For someone else to do that, we need an organisational

Re: [julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-14 Thread Stefan Karpinski
Currently I own the domain, but transferring it to NumFocus would be fine if they do that (which I can find out). On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Jim Garrison j...@garrison.cc wrote: Here is a related question: Who will own and operate the julialang.org domain? Would you be willing to

Re: [julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-14 Thread Jim Garrison
Hi Viral and Stefan, Thanks for the replies. To be clear, I have no opposition to a third party organization (e.g. Julia Computing) hosting the web site as an in-kind donation to Julia (the community project). The GNOME website, for instance, is currently hosted by Canonical, and it has

Re: [julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-13 Thread Scott Jones
Yes, it was clear that you were also a cofounder of Julia Computing, what was not clear, just from your GitHub info, if you were actively working for JC, or for MIT, or splitting your time between them. I do hope there’s enough funding so that you’ll be able to work full time on the language.

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-12 Thread Waldir Pimenta
On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 1:33:58 AM UTC+1, Eric Forgy wrote: If we pay developers to clean up an existing package, it feels weird to just give the work we paid for away. Any thoughts on how I should think about this? I probably just need some education and am open to suggestions. I think

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-12 Thread Scott Jones
About Julia Computing, is Stefan also going to be working full time for Julia Computing? As the second largest contributor (and most vocal!), I think that would be critical (and would be greatly reassuring to people betting on Julia...). His GitHub shows him living in NYC, but that he's an MIT

Re: [julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-12 Thread Stefan Karpinski
Yes, that's correct – I'm also a cofounder of Julia Computing. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Yichao Yu yyc1...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Scott Jones scott.paul.jo...@gmail.com wrote: About Julia Computing, is Stefan also going to be working full time for Julia

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-12 Thread Marcus Appelros
Am interested in being part of this venture. Every undertaking must be motivated as optimally beneficient for the world as a whole, therefore the following proposal might be acceptable to all: Will do consulting on implementing Julian AI/physics/math in exchange for donations to charitable

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-12 Thread Jim Garrison
There's one point from the HN thread (and echoed a few other places) that I'd like to add some thoughts on. For all those who're getting worried by this, I don't think there's any inherent problem. After all, this is exactly what Red Hat has been doing with Linux for years. One important

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-11 Thread Brian Granger
Congrats on Julia Computing stuff! We (IPython/Jupyter) are always thinking about various approaches to making open source sustainable and it is great to see explorations like this. I wish you the best of success!!! I wanted to share some thoughts and questions about trademark as it relates to

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-10 Thread Tony Kelman
I (and several others who I've spoken with in person) hope you're all able to appropriately balance time spent towards the consulting work vs time spent towards developing the core language, since those will inevitably not overlap as often as everyone would like. The progress that the language

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-10 Thread Ken B
I was able to sell Julia recently for a small 2,5 month consultancy project at a research institute. The main difficulty in convincing the client was the uncertain long term support for the language, so I'm very happy to see this Julia Computing LLC up and running. I agree with Scott that a

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-09 Thread Eric Forgy
I think this is great. Our startup has similar issues. We want to do innovative work, but that work needs funding, so we also do some consulting/training to pay the RD bills. It can be a challenge to find the right balance though, so beware :) Given the position of Julia Computing, another

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-09 Thread Scott Jones
I also read this article this morning: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/small-biz/startups/julia-founders-commercialise-language-create-new-startup/articleshow/47211869.cms I had been a bit concerned, that after Wednesday, Jeff might have to go find a job out in the real world, and would

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-09 Thread Eric Forgy
Thanks Scott. That makes a lot of sense.

Re: [julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-09 Thread Jeff Bezanson
I will work for Julia Computing full time. I think it's unavoidable that trying to make a living will take at least some time from working on julia. Even in academia, there are papers, grants, classes, talks, and so on that take time away. My current guess is that our best bet is to have an

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-09 Thread Scott Jones
Well, I spent many years doing nothing but proprietary development... all trade secrets, etc. even though the language/database system was based on an ANSI standard language. Now I'm consulting for a small startup, and we are also trying to balance open source vs. proprietary development. So

[julia-users] Re: Julia will always be open source

2015-05-09 Thread Jim Garrison
On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 1:20:15 PM UTC-7, Viral Shah wrote: You may have questions. Please shoot them here. We will respond back with a detailed blog post. Here's something I've been wondering about: juliacomputing.com mentions security updates as part of the commercial support package.