Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-18 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
Le mercredi 17 décembre 2014 à 10:43 -0800, Douglas Bates a écrit : On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:50:12 PM UTC-6, ivo welch wrote: my note was partly a joke, partly a warning. the R community started out very nice, too. many still are. but some of the

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-18 Thread Tamas Papp
On Thu, Dec 18 2014, Milan Bouchet-Valat nalimi...@club.fr wrote: the weirdest part is that there are some people who seem to enjoy *really* helping users, all the while being somewhat insulting. it is my (incomplete) understanding that internal strife in

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-18 Thread Stefan Karpinski
Compatibility is tough and we've really just barely started to deal with it, but I think so far it's going pretty well. Multiple dispatch is uncannily good at deprecating things, and having a dynamic language with nice metaprogramming makes it possible to do clever things like Compat.jl, which

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-18 Thread Ivar Nesje
Will be exciting to see how fast Julia 0.3 dies down when we start recommending 0.4 by default. kl. 15:27:45 UTC+1 torsdag 18. desember 2014 skrev Stefan Karpinski følgende: Compatibility is tough and we've really just barely started to deal with it, but I think so far it's going pretty

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-18 Thread Giuseppe Paleologo
As a long-time R user, I second that. Brian Ripley is a core contributor to base R, does reply on R-help to many requests, but is very acerbic. In general, there is quite a big divide between R core contributors and R users. This is totally absent in Julia, with the founders of the language

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-18 Thread Isaiah Norton
Please don't do that. Unnecessary comments directed at specific people are exactly the kind of thing that start to change the character of a mailing list and lead to burnout. Such comments are especially unwelcome when directed against people who are not active on the list. We should set a higher

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-17 Thread Christoph Ortner
So would I. Christoph On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 04:53:34 UTC, ivo welch wrote: I would have a buy 3 year membership paypal button for $50 on the julia front page. this way, you also will have some running list of people particularly interested in the language. if this exists, I

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-17 Thread Stefan Karpinski
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:50 PM, ivo welch ivo...@gmail.com wrote: my note was partly a joke, partly a warning. the R community started out very nice, too. many still are. but some of the tone has shifted towards the obnoxious. the weirdest part is that there are some people who seem to

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-17 Thread Stefan Karpinski
I'm curious what the membership model for other projects is. What is entailed in a membership? Do you get anything or is it sort of a symbolic status in return for donation? On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:53 PM, ivo welch ivo.we...@anderson.ucla.edu wrote: I would have a buy 3 year membership

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-17 Thread Viral Shah
On 17-Dec-2014, at 9:00 pm, Stefan Karpinski ste...@karpinski.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:50 PM, ivo welch ivo...@gmail.com wrote: my note was partly a joke, partly a warning. the R community started out very nice, too. many still are. but some of the tone has shifted towards

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-17 Thread cdm
here, here ... setting up something on https://gittip.com/ | https://gratipay.com/ may also prove worthwhile. cdm On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 3:19:10 AM UTC-8, Christoph Ortner wrote: So would I. Christoph On Wednesday, 17 December 2014 04:53:34 UTC, ivo welch wrote:

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-17 Thread SVAKSHA
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:52 PM, cdm cdmclean@gmail.com wrote: setting up something on https://gittip.com/ | https://gratipay.com/ Don't these have a limit on the donations received per week? IIRC, it was USD25/week. Not sure. Also its mostly a platform for individual foss

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-17 Thread Stefan Karpinski
These are good points, Svaksha. I don't think we should go with one of these tipping platforms. Julia is part of NumFocus – a 501(c)(3) that can accept donations. If anyone wants to donate to Julia development, you can do it right now from this page: http://numfocus.org/projects/index.html We

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-16 Thread Kevin Squire
+1 to what Tomas said. I've been here for two years, and while no one really knows the future, the community has been amazing that whole time, and doesn't showed signs of changing right now. Cheers! Kevin On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Tomas Lycken tomas.lyc...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-16 Thread Max Suster
+10 - but in my case beers are on you (its quite expensive here in Norway :)

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-16 Thread ivo welch
my note was partly a joke, partly a warning. the R community started out very nice, too. many still are. but some of the tone has shifted towards the obnoxious. the weirdest part is that there are some people who seem to enjoy *really* helping users, all the while being somewhat

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-16 Thread Viral Shah
Julia is part of the NumFocus foundation. We don't have a concept of membership, but it can accept grants and donations. We haven't done anything along these lines yet, and are certainly open to ideas. -viral On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 5:20:12 AM UTC+5:30, ivo welch wrote: my note was

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-16 Thread ivo welch
I would have a buy 3 year membership paypal button for $50 on the julia front page. this way, you also will have some running list of people particularly interested in the language. if this exists, I will join. Ivo Welch (ivo.we...@gmail.com) http://www.ivo-welch.info/ J. Fred Weston

[julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-08 Thread Petr Krysl
I've been playing in Julia for the past week or so, but already the results are convincing. This language is GREAT. I've coded hundreds of thousands of lines in Fortran, C, C++, Matlab, and this is the first language that feels good. And it is precisely what I envision for my project. So,

Re: [julia-users] THANKS to Julia core developers!

2014-12-08 Thread Stefan Karpinski
:-D On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:02 AM, Petr Krysl krysl.p...@gmail.com wrote: I've been playing in Julia for the past week or so, but already the results are convincing. This language is GREAT. I've coded hundreds of thousands of lines in Fortran, C, C++, Matlab, and this is the first