Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

Yes, it's generally like that with all the absurd licenses on the low-end > MX. Look at the price of an MX80, then look at the price of an MX5, > upgraded gradually to an MX80 over time. Pay as you grow, indeed. It's > actually cheaper to buy multiple other vendor routers entirely than to pay >

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

Yes you will need junos license Giuliano C. Medalha WZTECH NETWORKS +55 (17) 98112-5394 giuli...@wztech.com.br From: juniper-nsp on behalf of Josh Baird Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 1:32:12 PM To:

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

Doesn't look like the MX204 comes licensed with JunOS either. That adds what.. another $10k to the MSRP? On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Edward Dore < edward.d...@freethought-internet.co.uk> wrote: > Yes, you can use 1G options in the 10GE ports, but there are only 8x 10GE > ports, so you

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

Yes, you can use 1G options in the 10GE ports, but there are only 8x 10GE ports, so you aren’t going to get great density. It all depends on what you need really. Juniper suggest that you can actually get 24x 1GE from the MX204 by using 4-way breakout on the 4x 40GE/100GE QSFP+/QSFP28 ports.

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

MX204 is probably not that expensive compared to a fully licensed MX104, I guess. And while MX204 doesn't have RE redundancy, it supports NSR so I understand it runs two JunOS VMs in a Windriver Linux as hypervisor, I guess. > On 5 janv. 2018 à 15:54, Edward Dore

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

One could utilize the MX204's 10GE interfaces for 1GE as well, I suppose? Is this a bad idea? On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Edward Dore < edward.d...@freethought-internet.co.uk> wrote: > The MX204 seems to be amazing value for money if it has the right port > combination for your workload

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

The MX204 seems to be amazing value for money if it has the right port combination for your workload (i.e. not great if you need lots of 1GE). The RE is also significantly more capable than the somewhat underpowered one in the MX104. I would be extremely hesitant about deploying a new MX104

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

> Beware the bundle upgrades on the MX104 – when we looked at these in 2016, > for some reason that our VAR couldn’t explain it was cheaper to just throw > the MX104-MX5-AC away and buy a brand new MX104-40G-AC-BNDL bundle rather > than purchasing the MX104-MX5-40G-UPG license. Yes, it's

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

I believe this is what we are finding as well, which is unfortunate. Maybe we should look at the MX204 instead? Although, it's 2X the cost (MSRP) and only has one RE. Thoughts? On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:18 AM, Edward Dore < edward.d...@freethought-internet.co.uk> wrote: > Beware the bundle

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

As a general comment, I've seen with Junos, IOS, IOS XE and IOS XR various differences with licensing... Some licensing is based on honor-system, feature/function will work, but you should pay for that license to use that feature Some is actually locked out and only available once lic file or

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

Beware the bundle upgrades on the MX104 – when we looked at these in 2016, for some reason that our VAR couldn’t explain it was cheaper to just throw the MX104-MX5-AC away and buy a brand new MX104-40G-AC-BNDL bundle rather than purchasing the MX104-MX5-40G-UPG license. Edward Dore Freethought

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

Actually - come to find out (from my reseller), the MX104-MX5 package gives you two MIC slots. Not sure if the "locking" is actually enforced or not on the other two. Supposedly, the overall throughput of the chassis is also limited to 20Gbps - again, not sure if this is enforced. Options for

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

Hi ! IMHO Edward is right with his assumption: Those are the available licenses for the MX104 Upgrade license to activate 2x10GE P2&3 MX104 S-MX104-ADD-2X10GE Upgrade license to activate 2X10GE P0&1 MX104 S-MX104-UPG-2X10GE Upgrade license to activate 4X10GE

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

I believe that the MX104-MX5 bundle is supposed to be locked to only allowing you to make use of a single MIC slot, like the MX5 version of the MX80. As to whether or not that is actually enforced… Edward Dore Freethought Internet On 04/01/2018, 18:34, "juniper-nsp on behalf of Josh Baird"