Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-10 Thread James Bensley
On 4 January 2018 at 18:34, Josh Baird wrote: > Hi all, > > Given the MX104-MX5-AC bundle which comes with 1 20x 1GE MIC pre-installed > (and none of the onboard 10Gbps interfaces enabled), is this box actually > limited to 20Gbps overall throughput? > > Can I install another

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Pavel Lunin
Yes, it's generally like that with all the absurd licenses on the low-end > MX. Look at the price of an MX80, then look at the price of an MX5, > upgraded gradually to an MX80 over time. Pay as you grow, indeed. It's > actually cheaper to buy multiple other vendor routers entirely than to pay >

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Giuliano C. Medalha
8 1:32:12 PM To: Edward Dore Cc: Juniper List Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles Doesn't look like the MX204 comes licensed with JunOS either. That adds what.. another $10k to the MSRP? On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Edward Dore < edward.d...@freethought-intern

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Baird
Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> > *Date: *Friday, 5 January 2018 at 15:16 > > *To: *Edward Dore <edward.d...@freethought-internet.co.uk> > *Cc: *"alexander.marh...@gmx.at" <alexander.marh...@gmx.at>, Juniper List > <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> > *Subje

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Edward Dore
anuary 2018 at 15:16 To: Edward Dore <edward.d...@freethought-internet.co.uk> Cc: "alexander.marh...@gmx.at" <alexander.marh...@gmx.at>, Juniper List <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles One could u

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Olivier Benghozi
MX204 is probably not that expensive compared to a fully licensed MX104, I guess. And while MX204 doesn't have RE redundancy, it supports NSR so I understand it runs two JunOS VMs in a Windriver Linux as hypervisor, I guess. > On 5 janv. 2018 à 15:54, Edward Dore

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Baird
t 14:42 > *To: *Edward Dore <edward.d...@freethought-internet.co.uk> > *Cc: *"alexander.marh...@gmx.at" <alexander.marh...@gmx.at>, Juniper List > <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> > > *Subject: *Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles &g

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Edward Dore
er.marh...@gmx.at" <alexander.marh...@gmx.at>, Juniper List <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles I believe this is what we are finding as well, which is unfortunate. Maybe we should look at the MX204 instead? Although, it'

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Eric Van Tol
> Beware the bundle upgrades on the MX104 – when we looked at these in 2016, > for some reason that our VAR couldn’t explain it was cheaper to just throw > the MX104-MX5-AC away and buy a brand new MX104-40G-AC-BNDL bundle rather > than purchasing the MX104-MX5-40G-UPG license. Yes, it's

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Baird
S-JFLOW-CH-MX5-104 > > With best regards > alexander > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag > von Edward Dore > Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 10:21 > An: Josh Baird; Juniper List &

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Aaron Gould
As a general comment, I've seen with Junos, IOS, IOS XE and IOS XR various differences with licensing... Some licensing is based on honor-system, feature/function will work, but you should pay for that license to use that feature Some is actually locked out and only available once lic file or

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Edward Dore
nd MX104 S-JFLOW-CH-MX5-104 With best regards alexander -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net<mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net>] Im Auftrag von Edward Dore Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 10:21 An: Josh Baird;

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Josh Baird
MX5, MX10, M40, MX80, and MX104 > S-JFLOW-CH-MX5-104 > > With best regards > alexander > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag > von Edward Dore > Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 10:21 > An: Josh

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Alexander Marhold
S-JFLOW-CH-MX5-104 With best regards alexander -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag von Edward Dore Gesendet: Freitag, 5. Januar 2018 10:21 An: Josh Baird; Juniper List Betreff: Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of

Re: [j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-05 Thread Edward Dore
I believe that the MX104-MX5 bundle is supposed to be locked to only allowing you to make use of a single MIC slot, like the MX5 version of the MX80. As to whether or not that is actually enforced… Edward Dore Freethought Internet On 04/01/2018, 18:34, "juniper-nsp on behalf of Josh Baird"

[j-nsp] Understanding limitations of various MX104 bundles

2018-01-04 Thread Josh Baird
Hi all, Given the MX104-MX5-AC bundle which comes with 1 20x 1GE MIC pre-installed (and none of the onboard 10Gbps interfaces enabled), is this box actually limited to 20Gbps overall throughput? Can I install another MIC (say the MIC-3D-2XGE-XFP) in an additional slot to gain 2 10Gbps interfaces