Survey to asses the wishes for further contributor training

2019-02-22 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Dear KDE community, As those who have been at last year's Akademy know, we have used some of our funds to offer free, professional contributor training there (we had public speaking, non-violent communication, fundraising and documentation training). According to a survey we did to evaluate the t

Re: Testbed Discourse Server For Trial discuss.kde.org.uk

2019-06-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 6/19/19 5:44 PM, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > I've set up a Discourse server for a trail to see if it's something we > should add to KDE's infrastructure. > > Discourse is a modern Free Software web forum and mailing list app. > > Give it a trial now at http://discuss.kde.org.uk/ > > If you want

Re: Contributor training feedback data

2019-06-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 6/20/19 6:22 PM, Roman Gilg wrote: > Hi, > > last Akademy there were some contributor trainings going on. And > afterwards there was a poll on how people liked it. > > It this poll data available somewhere? And what trainings are planned > for Akademy 2019? > > Thanks in advance. > > Roman

Re: Testbed Discourse Server For Trial discuss.kde.org.uk

2019-07-02 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 7/1/19 9:02 AM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Hi all, > > On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 10:48 AM Luigi Toscano <mailto:luigi.tosc...@tiscali.it>> wrote: > > Nate Graham ha scritto: > > On 6/29/19 4:04 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > >> Hi Jonathan,

Re: Contributor training feedback data

2019-07-02 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 6/30/19 11:33 AM, Kenny Duffus wrote: > On Saturday, 29 June 2019 23:33:13 BST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: >> We (the board) have not decided yet which trainings to offer at this >> year's Akademy (but we have decided that we do want to offer trainings >> in general!). We&

Re: Invent/gitlab, issues and bugzilla

2019-07-03 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 7/3/19 9:05 PM, Luigi Toscano wrote: > Boudewijn Rempt ha scritto: >> On woensdag 3 juli 2019 20:23:41 CEST Nate Graham wrote: >>> On 7/3/19 11:53 AM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: If the new is much better than the old, let's just remove the old. As said, having two things that do the

Communication training at Akademy on Friday

2019-08-13 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Dear KDE community, Since the Nonviolent Communication training last Akademy was received very positively, and both those who attended it and those who didn't have the chance to attend expressed that more communication training would be useful, we decided to invite Tilman Krakau, our trainer from l

Re: KDE should rather act then just "strike" (Re: Should KDE join the (Digital) Global Climate Strike this friday?)

2019-09-19 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi Friedrich, On 19.09.19 13:52, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 18. September 2019, 18:01:18 CEST schrieb cahfof...@tuta.io: >> Hello to all members of the KDE community, >> >> this friday (september the 20th) will be a big day in climate protests and >> hopefully also in human his

Re: Should KDE join the (Digital) Global Climate Strike this friday? - Proposal

2019-09-19 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hey everyone, Here is a concrete proposal which I've just brought up on the promo channel and which seems to gain support there: - Add a banner on our website _today_ informing about the Global Climate Strike which starts tomorrow and telling that we support it (not covering the whole website, ju

Re: FSF leadership

2019-09-19 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 19.09.19 11:48, Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > Hello again, > > a clarification from my side... > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:16 AM Agustín Benito wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I am against this. I find disrespectful to tell a fellow organization what >> they should do. I would feel the same

Re: KDE should rather act then just "strike" (Re: Should KDE join the (Digital) Global Climate Strike this friday?)

2019-09-19 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 19.09.19 20:58, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 19. September 2019, 19:35:53 CEST schrieb Nate Graham: >> On 9/19/19 11:05 AM, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: >>> More, I see all those "strikes" are substitutes for people actually >>> handling or at least for postponing their ow

Re: KDE should rather act then just "strike" (Re: Should KDE join the (Digital) Global Climate Strike this friday?)

2019-09-22 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi Christoph, On 20.09.19 22:35, Christoph Cullmann wrote: > I must confess I missed that we decided to participate, too, but digging > in the mails of this thread it seems the board of e.V. did so. (if I > don't misread > Aleix mail) >From my perspective, the course of events was: - On Wednesda

Re: 4th global climate strike - should KDE take action?

2019-11-04 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
I have sent a former vote proposal to the e.V. list now. We'll see what happens. On 04.11.19 15:56, cahfof...@tuta.io wrote: > Hello Christoph, > thanks for your fast answer. > > You're rigth, the general interest in this topic is very low at this moment, > there were neither positive nor negati

EU Survey on "Sustainable OSS communities in the public sector"

2020-02-25 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hey everyone, The European Commission is currently looking for input on "Sustainable OSS communities in the public sector" via an open survey. I believe it's a great opportunity to show politicians and bureaucrats how to collaborate with us in a sustainable way. Therefore, I'd encourage all KDE p

Re: [kde-community] Spam attack on wikis - comments needed!

2013-07-24 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 24.07.2013 14:04, Luigi Toscano wrote: - why don't require identity registration? I understand that the idea is to lower the threshold for new contributors, but identity is used also for other services (and it will be used more and more), and on the other side the registration shows a bit of

Re: [kde-community] Proposal: KDE Manifesto wording revision

2013-11-12 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Tuesday 12 November 2013 23:11:54 Eike Hein wrote: > On Tuesday 12 November 2013 22:53:18 Thomas Zander wrote: > > All these may actually exclude the stuff that is used to create the > > deliverables. If you use gimp to draw, the gimp file is imporant, but the > > "asset" and "deliverable" is ty

Re: [kde-community] Discussion: KDE Manifesto, "established practices"

2013-11-18 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 18.11.2013 17:31, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: If people really feel the name, the “established practices” could link to: http://techbase.kde.org/Policies This would be much like how the CoC is linked to rather than included in the Manifesto. The language on the Policies page would

[kde-community] HIG compliance testing via Google Code-in

2013-12-04 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hey everyone, as you know from Lydia's recent mail on this list, we need some more Google Code-in tasks. So far we had two tasks for testing KDE applications for compliance with the KDE Human Interface Guidelines (http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG). Both tasks have been completed v

Re: [kde-community] HIG compliance testing via Google Code-in

2013-12-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Thursday 05 December 2013 10:16:56 Shantanu Tushar Jha wrote: > Plasma Media Center would love to have more usability feedback, as usual :) PMC would surely be interesting to test. The only issue I see is: Which HIGs should it be tested against? It's neither really a Desktop nor an Active app

Re: [kde-community] HIG compliance testing via Google Code-in

2013-12-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Wednesday 04 December 2013 16:14:26 Jeremy Whiting wrote: > I wouldn't mind getting usability information about knewstuff (used in > many applications), kanagram, and/or Jovie. > > thanks, > Jeremy Sure! Could you handle feedback for all three? ;) __

Re: [kde-community] HIG compliance testing via Google Code-in

2013-12-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Thursday 05 December 2013 14:26:36 Jeremy Whiting wrote: > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Wednesday 04 December 2013 16:14:26 Jeremy Whiting wrote: > >> I wouldn't mind getting usability information about knewstuff (used in > >&

Re: [kde-community] KDE Essential Applications - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-16 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Thursday 16 January 2014 11:56:08 Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 23:46:29 Adriaan de Groot wrote: > > On Wednesday 15 January 2014 23:13:11 Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > > Besides how would you define this "KDE Essential Applications" group? I > > > mean a tarball? An X

Re: [kde-community] KDE Essential Applications - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

2014-01-17 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 16.01.2014 22:24, Marco Martin wrote: On Thursday 16 January 2014 21:50:47 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: Is it just me, or does this idea sound like it's going in a similar direction to the "Flows" Björn and I talked about at Akademy? ;) Tasks/workflows is really what we should be

[kde-community] Updating our vision

2014-01-28 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, when Heiko and me wrote our Human Interface Guideline for product Visions, we wanted to link to the overall KDE Vision. However, when we looked it up at http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/Principles/KDE4_Vision we noticed that it is for KDE4 and we haven't found a vision doc

Re: [kde-community] licence policy updates

2014-02-17 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 16.02.2014 22:14, Michael Pyne wrote: On Sun, February 16, 2014 19:06:07 Lydia Pintscher wrote: On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Michael Pyne wrote: Perhaps something similar exists online as well. http://choosealicense.com/ (developed by github after people were annoyed that so much unli

Re: [kde-community] KDE applications 4.14 LTS or 4.15?

2014-04-26 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Saturday 26 April 2014 05:28:18 Inge Wallin wrote: > While I agree with you, this doesn't answer the question at all. > > But mostly I think that an LTS release should be about stability. This is > not something you get immediately after you port to a new framework and a > new toolkit at the sa

[kde-community] Fwd: Yes, another notifications study. Earn money for KDE!

2014-05-13 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, just forwarding this email from our long-time usability lead Celeste Lyn Paul who would like you to participate in a scientific study concerning desktop notifications, in exchange for a donation to KDE. Details see below. I've already participated, it takes only a few minutes. Cheers

[kde-community] Jitsi Meet installation for KDE?

2014-07-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, video conferencing seems to gain more and more importance within KDE. The Plasma team has their weekly "Monday Hangout", the VDG regularly video-chats as well, and I'm sure we're not the only ones. Currently, Google Hangouts are our service of choice for that. It works well, but its

Re: [kde-community] Jitsi Meet installation for KDE?

2014-07-18 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Sunday 06 July 2014 00:08:38 Michael Bohlender wrote: > Hi everyone, > video conferencing seems to gain more and more importance within KDE. The > Plasma team has their weekly "Monday Hangout", the VDG regularly video-chats > as well, and I'm sure we're not the only ones. > Currently, Google Han

[kde-community] Korean Open Source Software Awards

2014-07-21 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, I've only learned about it today, so I figured others might not be aware of it yet, either: Every year for the last 8 years, the Ministry of Science, IST and Future Planning of Korea (together with other partners) holds a competition for open source software, giving out prizes for

Re: [kde-community] Korean Open Source Software Awards

2014-07-21 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 21.07.2014 16:01, Eike Hein wrote: I found this interview from 2013 with 강소희 who is involved with the program: http://opensource.com/life/13/7/oss-world-challenge The winners there were all developed at universities and are smaller projects (as the one-year rule says). So I'm not sure that K

Re: [kde-community] Sad news (fwd)

2014-08-27 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Wednesday 27 August 2014 09:00:04 Jens Reuterberg wrote: > Thats terrible news. > > As a community would it be appropriate to write up a short retrospective of > Mojtaba? Perhaps combined with a photo, some information about him, his work > and his life and post it on one of the larger KDE blog

Re: [kde-community] Your Akademy take-away?

2014-09-12 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Friday 12 September 2014 14:02:39 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > Hey folks :) > > What are the most important things you took away from this year's Akademy? > > Mine are: > * We are an amazing community that really pulls together when needed. > Carrying someone up all the way to the castle because t

Re: [kde-community] Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is.....

2014-09-13 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Thursday 11 September 2014 15:56:01 Arjun Ak wrote: > How about having something similar to the eudyptula challenge > (http://eudyptula-challenge.org/) ? Please don't take this personally, Arjun, but the challenge you linked to serves as the ideal example of how we should _not_ do this ;) Its

[kde-community] Using software created by KDE and KDE-related communities/companies for KDE infrastructure

2014-09-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, this is a topic that has been going around my head for quite some now, and now I finally decided to actually try and get the ball rolling on it: I think we are quite good at "eating our own dog food" when it comes to desktop software: Most KDE contributors use Plasma as our desktop

Re: [kde-community] Using software created by KDE and KDE-related communities/companies for KDE infrastructure

2014-09-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Monday 15 September 2014 15:04:17 Eike Hein wrote: > On 15.09.2014 14:58, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > Where we don't use many of our own products, though, is on the > > infrastructure side. > > That's not actually true, btw: > > - identity.kde.org is us >

Re: [kde-community] Using software created by KDE and KDE-related communities/companies for KDE infrastructure

2014-09-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Monday 15 September 2014 16:24:55 Aleix Pol wrote: > Hi Thomas, Hi Aleix, > First of all, I'd like to say I mostly agree with you. I would add a bit of > a twist though, I think we must ensure the services we rely on are free and > open as possible, they don't need to be our own (or in a tier2

Re: [kde-community] Using software created by KDE and KDE-related communities/companies for KDE infrastructure

2014-09-16 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
capable to > > > interact with them, given it's one of the few platforms we could > > > have a say. > > On Monday 15 September 2014 20:11:32 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > Given that Kolab will power the whole of Munich administration soon, I > > wonder why

Re: [kde-community] Give People Access to Great Technology - a possible vision

2014-09-23 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Tuesday 23 September 2014 16:06:36 Stuart Jarvis wrote: > > What’s making this more > > confusing is that the VDG are now discussing branding some apps along > > the lines of ‘Made for…’ > > I'd be very concerned about this, for any but the most basic components > deeply entwined in the desktop

Re: [kde-community] Make the World a Better Place! - KDE End of Year 2014 Fundraising

2014-10-22 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Wednesday 22 October 2014 21:36:41 Dominik Haumann wrote: > today came the thought to me that we also could send this mail to all users > that once wrote a comment in http://bugs.kde.org. There, we have lots (how > many) of users that at least were in touch with KDE through the bug > tracker

Re: [kde-community] Make the World a Better Place! - KDE End of Year 2014 Fundraising

2014-10-22 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Wednesday 22 October 2014 22:59:46 Martin Klapetek wrote: > > It could be just part of the message Bugzilla sends, like in the footer. > > Simple "Make the world better - link". Bugzilla mails always have at least > 2 lines footer anyway, like > > "You are receiving this mail because: > You ar

Re: [kde-community] FOSDEM Organisation

2014-12-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Saturday 06 December 2014 08:36:35 Carl Symons wrote: > At least some of the FOSDEM organizers believe that it's important. They > have a social conduct policy. It's published in the front of the program > brochure. Apparently John doesn't think that it is proper (whatever that > means): > > "

Re: [kde-community] Community Identity Guidelines

2015-09-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On 2015-09-14 20:52, Lydia Pintscher wrote: On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Alex Merry wrote: While sorting through the Development section of Techbase, I came across the Community Identity Guidelines (CIG) page at [1]. This appears to be rather out of date, referring to the "K Desktop Envir

Re: [kde-community] Greetings Everyone

2015-10-04 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Sunday 04 October 2015 18:19:46 Tanzim Rizwan wrote: > Hello everyone,I just joined in this mailing list to get to know how can I > contribute this community with code, I know c,c++ and python. But I don't > know where do I start. Please anybody show me the path. Hello Tanzim, first of all: Wel

Re: [kde-community] Blacklisting of free.fr

2015-10-24 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Sunday 27 September 2015 09:32:32 Ben Cooksley wrote: > Hi all, > > In 48 hours, i'll be blacklisting the entire of free.fr from KDE email > infrastructure. This is necessary as it has become apparent that the > security of @free.fr addresses is quite poor - allowing for > subscribers accounts

[kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

2016-01-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, distributions are - and most likely will be for the foreseeable future - be the main channel by which users get our software. Therefore, we're eternally grateful for the job they are doing. However, it happens - too often for my taste - that users face problems while using our softw

Re: [kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

2016-01-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 29. Januar 2016 16:44:49 CET Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:06:14 +0100, Thomas Pfeiffer ha scritto: > > I believe that we can improve the situation by intensifying our > > cooperation with distributions even further. On the other hand, however, > &g

Re: [kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

2016-01-30 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 29. Januar 2016 21:46:25 CET Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il Fri, 29 Jan 2016 18:09:23 +0100, Thomas Pfeiffer ha scritto: > > Maybe the speed of upgrading as such is not the actual point. What I > > care about is the speed with which bugfixes reach end users. If a > >

Re: [kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

2016-02-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi Neofytos! On Dienstag, 2. Februar 2016 23:40:44 CET tetr...@openmailbox.org wrote: > I would like to propose a middle ground solution hoping it will > contribute to the discussion. It will imho serve everyone's interests; > KDE, distributions and users. > > The way I see it, the issue breaks

Re: [kde-community] RFC: Distribution outreach program

2016-02-05 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2016 10:46:26 CET Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > So we're going to shame them into complying by leaving them out of a list? > They'll pay attention to our wiki more than to their policies? Several > people in this thread mentioned distro policies as a reason why this won't > work

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - an alternative draft for discussion

2016-02-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Samstag, 6. Februar 2016 16:47:31 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote: > Yes. I think the vision statement needs to be complemented by a mission > statement. But I think, before we tackle the mission statement, we should > nail down the vision. That exactly was our (the "inclusive vision group") plan. And

[kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

2016-02-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hey everyone, analyzing the current discussions around the KDE Vision, I have identified one problem which could underlie much of the tension: It's still unclear what we mean by "vision", "mission" and "manifesto". We cannot really consult a dictionary or encyclopedia to answer this, because the

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

2016-02-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 9. Februar 2016 23:35:38 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > On Tuesday, February 09, 2016 22:56:32 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > ... > > > That's why I'd suggest that, before discussing the vision any further, we > > should agree on a

Re: [kde-community] Vision, mission and manifesto - what is their definition and purpose?

2016-02-10 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 10. Februar 2016 21:42:31 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > In the past, the KDE usability team (namely Björn, Heiko and I) have at > > least twice suggested to create a common vision for KDE's products. > > This approach has received mostly negative comments every time, with the > > a

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - first draft for discussion

2016-02-12 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 12. Februar 2016 12:07:27 CET Alexander Dymo wrote: > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:04 AM, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Why should there be a line? > > I've been managing software development organizations since 2008. I > attest to the importance of drawing a line. There's so much you can

[kde-community] Distribution outreach program: Where do we go from here?

2016-02-13 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, now with neon having been announced, and some members of some distributions fearing that their distribution might become a "second-class citizen" for KDE software due to the less direct communication with KDE, I think that it's more important than ever to publicly reach out to all d

[kde-community] Community vision and product vision

2016-02-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, as Lydia already wrote in her email announcing the second draft for a KDE community vision, I'd like to talk a bit about community vs. product vision. From reading the discussion about the "inclusive vs. focused" vision drafts and talking to members of the "focused vision group" in

Re: [kde-community] Community vision and product vision

2016-02-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 22:02:18 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:41:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > My suggestion, therefore, is: Why don't those who are looking for a common > > product direction band together and create one, which however i

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:49:58 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the > > community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and > > hav

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 15. Februar 2016 21:37:49 CET Laszlo Papp wrote: > In which case, what if digital life is not the future? If the world goes completely back to pen and paper, I fear KDE becomes obsolete, because I don't think we could adapt to that world. __

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-16 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 16. Februar 2016 08:05:25 CET Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 6:36:18 PM CET Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the > > community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-16 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
step guidance, however, that's what the mission is for. > > On Monday, February 15, 2016 22:27:14 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > If, say, 10 years down the road, hard- and software is so much > > > intertwined that we cannot influence the future with software alone >

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-17 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 16. Februar 2016 21:20:25 CET Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > I think it could be stated more gracefully. How about: > > KDE aspires to a world where all users of our technology experience > freedom, privacy and control over their digital lives. But doesn't that mean we don't care how ma

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-17 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 17. Februar 2016 12:06:06 CET you wrote: > On Wednesday, 17 February 2016 12:46:26 GMT Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Dienstag, 16. Februar 2016 21:20:25 CET Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > > I think it could be stated more gracefully. How about: > > > > &g

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-24 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
> KDE: control your digital life and > KDE - Be in control of your digital life. are both fantastic taglines, but not really visions. They sound like KDE already allows that _today_, it's not talking about a goal for the future to aim for. We should keep one of those as a tagline for KDE, one

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-26 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 18:58:49 CET Alexander Dymo wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote: > > Note that our slogan is: "A safe home for all your data" > > "Access & share your files, calendars, contacts, mail & more from any > > device, on your terms" > I wish we cou

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - second draft for discussion

2016-02-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 22. Februar 2016 23:05:49 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, February 15, 2016 18:36:18 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > A bit less than two weeks ago we sent the first draft for the > > community vision for KDE. We have gotten a lot of useful feedback and > > hav

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

2016-03-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 14. März 2016 22:39:13 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Monday, March 14, 2016 14:58:57 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > ... > > > * collect input for our mission statement. Alexander and others have > > already collected a lot of that. I have created a page on-wiki for > > this here: https:/

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

2016-03-19 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Samstag, 19. März 2016 21:52:09 CET Michael Brade wrote: > Am 19.03.2016 um 21:30 schrieb Alexander Neundorf: > > On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 22:53:03 David Jarvie wrote: > > ... > > > >> This may read a bit better, although it does slightly alter the emphasis: > >> > >> "A world in which every

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

2016-03-27 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 22. März 2016 17:24:40 CEST Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2016-03-15, David Jarvie wrote: > >>> > "A world in which everyone enjoys freedom and privacy and has > >> > >>control > >> > >>> > over their digital life." > > "A world in which everyone has control over their digital life and e

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

2016-03-30 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 30. März 2016 20:55:24 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > Quoting from the main article: > "The Plasma 5 release looks, to distributions, like a similar experience. > KDE's mission still "remains pretty much an unspoken mystery" and there's no > way for distributors to easily cut through

Re: [kde-community] finding a clear vision for KDE - final version

2016-03-30 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 30. März 2016 22:33:39 CEST you wrote: > Let me bring up the tired old comparison once more, because they are what > we're being compared to in that email thread: > "GNOME’s mission [is] to bring free and accessible computing to everyone" > [1] Note to self: If you insert a footnote

[kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-03-30 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, now that we've finally agreed on a vision for KDE [1] and have that out of the way, we can fully focus on how we want work towards that vision. Alex has already set up a Wiki page for brainstorming notes [2], so it would be great if everyone who has opinions or ideas about how we can

Re: [kde-community] Our new project metadata system

2016-03-31 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 13:43:55 CEST Luigi Toscano wrote: > AppStream metadata are already decentralized, and you don't want a sysadmin > ticket for each change to one of them. Let's have them in the hands of each > project manager. So I strongly disagree with moving from the current status.

Re: [kde-community] Our new project metadata system

2016-04-01 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 1. April 2016 21:54:10 CEST Ben Cooksley wrote: > Out of curiosity, how are the Appstream files accessed by tools such > as the various app centers? > I presume some kind of repository exists? Nope, actually distributions extract the appstream data from the source code of each applic

Re: [kde-community] Our new project metadata system

2016-04-02 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 1. April 2016 10:37:46 CEST Richard Hughes wrote: > On 31 March 2016 at 12:43, Luigi Toscano wrote: > > AppStream metadata are already decentralized, and you don't want a > > sysadmin > > ticket for each change to one of them. Let's have them in the hands of > > each > > project manage

Re: [kde-community] KDE e.V. Community Report for 1st Half of 2015

2016-04-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 8. April 2016 02:47:12 CEST Sandro Andrade wrote: > Hi there, Hi Sandro, > I'm happy to inform you that we have just published the KDE e.V > Community Report for 1st half of 2015: Thank you for doing this... > http://ev.kde.org/reports/ev-quarterly-2014_Q4.pdf ...this is the wrong

Re: [kde-community] KDE e.V. Community Report for 1st Half of 2015

2016-04-08 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 8. April 2016 19:31:18 CEST Sandro Andrade wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Clemens Toennies > > wrote: > > On Freitag, 8. April 2016 02:47:12 CEST Sandro Andrade wrote: > >>> I'm happy to inform you that we have just published the KDE e.V > >>> Community Report for 1st half o

Re: [kde-community] Looking for new doors to open for KDE

2016-04-11 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 11. April 2016 23:39:57 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > Hi all, > > I was unsure if this is the the right list for this since I a not > subscribed to plasma ML.. If not, apologies. > > The last few months I have been working on a project that could be an > interesting experimen

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-11 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 31. März 2016 23:12:15 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > I'd suggest that we let the brainstorming phase last until Friday and then > > start discussing the ideas collected on that Wiki page. > > two days is quite short (I just saw it right now). > Let's have a week at least, i.e.

Re: [kde-community] user stats for Neon

2016-04-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 14. April 2016 15:26:10 CEST Mirko Boehm - KDE wrote: > Hi! > > > On 14 Apr 2016, at 15:16, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > > > A while ago Albert gave a talk at Akademy about collecting some data > > on our users. This got me thinking and with Neon I wanted to see how > > many insta

Re: [kde-community] user stats for Neon

2016-04-14 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 14. April 2016 14:36:21 CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 04:18:30PM +0200, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > Any potentially privacy-sensitive information transfer should be opt-in, > > not opt-out. > > I'd assume that the vast majority of

Re: [kde-community] user stats for Neon

2016-04-15 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 15. April 2016 17:46:45 CEST Albert Vaca wrote: > What's the problem with pinging the Neon servers? Any system already does > way more than that when checking for updates, not to mention when you > connect to a website, or even IRC. > > How can this ping be violating any privacy if we

Re: [kde-community] user stats for Neon

2016-04-20 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 15:49:12 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > Hi, > > (long mail) > > I went through this same discussions a few years ago in openSUSE. Let > me outline my personal experience/point of view through that > experience. > > At some point, openSUSE was in crossroad and

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-24 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Our mission is our way to accomplish our vision. If the software was our way to accomplish our mission, what would the mission be, then? On Sonntag, 24. April 2016 13:52:25 CEST Agustin Benito (toscalix) wrote: > Hi, > > Is our mission de software or is the software our way to accomplish our > m

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-24 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Sonntag, 24. April 2016 11:36:54 CEST Clemens Toennies wrote: > Am 23.04.2016 um 22:36 schrieb Alexander Neundorf: > > Hi, > > > > On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 22:43:03 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > >> Hi everyone, > >> now that we've finally agreed on a

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-24 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Sonntag, 24. April 2016 21:34:39 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > I agree that we shouldn't put too much detail about Plasma into KDE's > mission. > > I think that stating clearly "we do (among others) a UNIX desktop" is good. > That's a big part of what we do, and it is important to a big par

Re: [kde-community] A new home for Mozilla Thunderbird at KDE?

2016-04-26 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Dienstag, 26. April 2016 16:03:43 CEST Jos van den Oever wrote: > Hello KDE-ers, > > Mozilla Thunderbird is looking for a new home [1]. They are evaluating a > number of options. KDE was not in the initial list of options, but I think > KDE and Thunderbird would be an excellent fit. > > This m

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-28 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, as we've found during the vision creation process that having a concrete draft to work from can streamline the discussion, I tried to come up with one. It goes quite into detail, but I think this is necessary in order to be useful as practical guidance. To fulfill our vision, KDE ha

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-28 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 28. April 2016 18:23:51 CEST Aleix Pol wrote: > > To fulfill our vision, KDE has taken on the mission to create products > > which> > > - give users control, freedom and privacy > > - convince them - through excellent user experience - to switch away from > > > > products which

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 28. April 2016 23:07:45 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > On Thursday, April 28, 2016 22:32:21 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Donnerstag, 28. April 2016 18:23:51 CEST Aleix Pol wrote: > ... > > > > Is offering integration of proprietary services needed to be

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Donnerstag, 28. April 2016 22:43:02 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > Does the order of the sections imply priorities ? > E.g. "tinkering" comes before "presence on all device classes" ? Not really, I just put them in the order they came to my mind. If you think a different order makes more

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-04-29 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 29. April 2016 14:32:33 CEST Olivier Churlaud wrote: > > As Aleix said, what do you mean exactly with that ? > > I could interpret it as > > - sources are available > > - it is easy to build > > - it's highly configurable > > - data is stored in easily accessible formats (text, or docu

Re: [kde-community] Telegram Relay Service

2016-05-06 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 6. Mai 2016 17:58:46 CEST Boudhayan Gupta wrote: > Hi all, > > KDE Sysadmin is excited to announce the availability of a Telegram <-> > IRC relay service. We now have the capability to sync messages both > ways between an IRC channel and a Telegram group. Ooooh, this is exciting news

Re: [kde-community] Telegram Relay Service

2016-05-07 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Samstag, 7. Mai 2016 12:26:25 CEST Myriam Schweingruber wrote: Hi Myriam, > I agree with Luca here, it would be nice if the KDE projects who use > only Telegram and thus make it mandatory to be able to work with them, > to consider an IRC relay bot, because they are excluding all those who > d

Re: [kde-community] Telegram Relay Service

2016-05-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Freitag, 6. Mai 2016 17:58:46 CEST Boudhayan Gupta wrote: > Hi all, > > KDE Sysadmin is excited to announce the availability of a Telegram <-> > IRC relay service. We now have the capability to sync messages both > ways between an IRC channel and a Telegram group. > > Currently, this service i

Re: [kde-community] Telegram Relay Service

2016-05-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 9. Mai 2016 20:07:02 CEST Bhushan Shah wrote: > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > Stupid question: How does one file a ticket for sysadmin via Phabricator? > > All I've ever used to file sysadmin tickets is > > https://sysadmin.

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-05-09 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
Hi everyone, thank you all for the feedback! It seems we're now in a mode of fleshing out details, for which I find emails not optimal. Therefore, I've put up a my original of the draft on the Wiki [1] (where we can all edit it while keeping all revisions available), then I immediately created a

Re: [kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

2016-05-10 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Montag, 9. Mai 2016 22:49:15 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > Let's finish our mission before we lose interest ;) > > thanks for pushing :-) > > No objections from my side, just a few thoughts, in no specific order: Glad to hear :) > * I don't like the term "reach where they are", to me

Re: [kde-community] Open Public Consultation: Revision of the European Interoperability Framework

2016-05-11 Thread Thomas Pfeiffer
On Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2016 11:25:00 CEST Jos van den Oever wrote: > The EU is asking input from its citizens on the next version of the European > Interoperability Framework. > > KDE has a traditional position in Europe and would benefit from a clear > direction towards completely open standards (*

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