Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 18:02:32 Torgny Nyblom wrote: > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 15.55.15 you wrote: > > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:33:39 +0200 > > > > schrieb Torgny Nyblom : > > > Does this mean that I will be focred to use a screensaver with > > > password unlock? If so why is that not a vaild

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-11 Thread Torgny Nyblom
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 19.52.36 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 18:02:32 Torgny Nyblom wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 15.55.15 you wrote: > > > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:33:39 +0200 > > > > > > schrieb Torgny Nyblom : > > > > Does this mean that I will be focred to use a

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-11 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:02:32 +0200 schrieb Torgny Nyblom : > Screensaver is bling only No, "screensaver hacks are bling only", a "screensaver" is a software relic. The key aspect is "when and why is there eye-candy". You can still run all scsreensavers to look at them, they're just ordinary single

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-11 Thread Michael Pyne
On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 20:54:42 Thomas Lübking wrote: > BUT: running them automatically because you're away and the system is > idle is simply not a justifiable (anymore) With all due respect, and with full agreement that screen savers are not in general required to *protect the screen*... w

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-11 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:47:52 -0400 schrieb Michael Pyne : > On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 20:54:42 Thomas Lübking wrote: > > BUT: running them automatically because you're away and the system > > is idle is simply not a justifiable (anymore) > > With all due respect, and with full agreement that s

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-11 Thread Michael Pyne
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 02:12:55 Thomas Lübking wrote: > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:47:52 -0400 schrieb Michael Pyne : > > On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 20:54:42 Thomas Lübking wrote: > > > BUT: running them automatically because you're away and the system > > > is idle is simply not a justifiabl

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-11 Thread Torgny Nyblom
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 21.11.03 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 20:12:39 Torgny Nyblom wrote: [...] > > But you also said that the screensaver without locking was going away in > > 4.9. This is what I'm against. > > As Thomas wrote you will always be able to run any animatio

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-11 Thread Torgny Nyblom
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 20.54.42 Thomas Lübking wrote: > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:02:32 +0200 > > schrieb Torgny Nyblom : > > Screensaver is bling only > > No, "screensaver hacks are bling only", a "screensaver" is a > software relic. (Semantics) > The key aspect is "when and why is there eye-

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-12 Thread Alexander Neundorf
On Wednesday 12 October 2011, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Wednesday 12 October 2011 08:26:20 Torgny Nyblom wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 20.54.42 Thomas Lübking wrote: > > > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:02:32 +0200 > > > > > > schrieb Torgny Nyblom : > > > > Screensaver is bling only > > > > > >

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-12 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:46:40 -0400 schrieb Michael Pyne : > Yes. KDE asciiquarium (feel free to look at the copyright headers for > that in kdeartwork someday... ;) Errr... rather not. The author, *cough* who ever he might be *cough* has apparently so far not found the time to implement the resize

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Pyne
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 20:43:41 Thomas Lübking wrote: > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:46:40 -0400 schrieb Michael Pyne : > > Yes. KDE asciiquarium (feel free to look at the copyright headers for > > that in kdeartwork someday... ;) > > Errr... rather not. The author, *cough* who ever he might be *

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Koller
On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 02:12:55 Thomas Lübking wrote: Let me give my view here: > Do you have configured a "saver" beyond dpms? > And if, why? > Do you use a locker beyond a black screen? > And if, why? yes to both (diashow). Reason: make other people wandering by (or sitting in the

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Koller
On Tuesday, 11. October 2011 21:11:03 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > I consider most effects being "bling" yes, with that said I like it and > > appreciate it but still most effects add no real productive value. > I have to disagree. By default we ship no effect which is "bling" > only. They all add p

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-13 Thread todd rme
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Martin Koller wrote: > On Tuesday, 11. October 2011 21:11:03 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > >> > I consider most effects being "bling" yes, with that said I like it and >> > appreciate it but still most effects add no real productive value. >> I have to disagree. By defau

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-13 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:24:55 +0200 schrieb todd rme : > At least for me wobbly windows provides visual feedback when moving > windows that I find useful. I used it a lot on compiz, but the Kwin > one never really worked all that well but I would have it enabled if > it did. Try advanced mode, the

Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-13 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:37:41 -0400 schrieb Michael Pyne : > Sure it can. Just click "Test" in the Display & Monitor screen saver > options. ;) There's probably some DBus call to do the same thing. i thought about "kstart --fullscreen kdeasciiquarium", fails because the window us resized externally

Re: Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 20:12:39 Torgny Nyblom wrote: > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 19.52.36 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 18:02:32 Torgny Nyblom wrote: > > > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 15.55.15 you wrote: > > > > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:33:39 +0200 > > > > > > > > schrieb T

Re: Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-12 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 12 October 2011 08:26:20 Torgny Nyblom wrote: > On Tuesday 11 October 2011 20.54.42 Thomas Lübking wrote: > > Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:02:32 +0200 > > > > schrieb Torgny Nyblom : > > > Screensaver is bling only > > > > No, "screensaver hacks are bling only", a "screensaver" is a > > soft

Re: Re: Screensaver to be or not to be (was: Re: Security Audit Request for Screenlocker Branch)

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 13 October 2011 17:29:16 Martin Koller wrote: > On Tuesday, 11. October 2011 21:11:03 Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > I consider most effects being "bling" yes, with that said I like it and > > > appreciate it but still most effects add no real productive value. > > > > I have to disagree.