host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-24 Thread Andreas Hasenack
I'm suddenly a little bit confused about host and services principals. For example, for OpenLDAP I have a principal called [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, for openssh, I found out that I had to have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] principal instead of something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is defined by the service/a

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-24 Thread Steve Langasek
Andreas, On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 05:42:10PM -0200, Andreas Hasenack wrote: > I'm suddenly a little bit confused about host and services > principals. > For example, for OpenLDAP I have a principal called > [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, for openssh, I found out > that I had to have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] p

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-24 Thread Donn Cave
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hasenack): | I'm suddenly a little bit confused about host and services | principals. | | For example, for OpenLDAP I have a principal called | [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, for openssh, I found out | that I had to have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] principal | instead of something

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-24 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 05:42:10PM -0200, Andreas Hasenack wrote: > I'm suddenly a little bit confused about host and services > principals. > > For example, for OpenLDAP I have a principal called > [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, for openssh, I found out > that I had to have a [EMAIL PROTECTED] principal

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Booker C. Bense
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Steve Langasek wrote: > Andreas, > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 05:42:10PM -0200, Andreas Hasenack wrote: > > I'm suddenly a little bit confused about host and services > > principals. > > > For example, for OpenLDAP I have a principal called > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] But, for opens

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Booker C. Bense
On 24 Jan 2002, Donn Cave wrote: > Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hasenack): > | I'm suddenly a little bit confused about host and services > | principals. > | > > An LDAP service certainly should have its own key, but in my > opinion this should actually be a run time option. - How would the

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Andreas Hasenack
> > LDAP > > services aren't really a distinct category. You might run > > several LDAP services on the same host whose data and access > > controls are completely different, and that's what you would I though ACLs were not kerberos' concern. Kerberos only says that you are you, right? What you

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 08:39:51AM -0800, Booker C. Bense wrote: > On 24 Jan 2002, Donn Cave wrote: > > > Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hasenack): > > | I'm suddenly a little bit confused about host and services > > | principals. > > | > > > > An LDAP service certainly should have its own key,

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 03:03:35PM -0200, Andreas Hasenack wrote: > > > LDAP > > > services aren't really a distinct category. You might run > > > several LDAP services on the same host whose data and access > > > controls are completely different, and that's what you would > > I though ACLs wer

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Andreas Hasenack
Em Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 12:25:54PM -0500, Nicolas Williams escreveu: > How should a client distinguish between two *different* LDAP databases > using the same service principal name? > > I think each LDAP DB should have a unique service principal name. Most > times ldap/fqdn@REALM will do, but if

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Donn Cave
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hasenack): | > > LDAP | > > services aren't really a distinct category. You might run | > > several LDAP services on the same host whose data and access | > > controls are completely different, and that's what you would | | I though ACLs were not kerberos' concern

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Donn Cave
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Booker C. Bense"): ... | - There's nothing stopping these various ldap servers from | sharing the same keytab. I can see some reasons for not wanting | to do that, but the only compelling one to me is that if | you don't trust the security of one of the servers. | Other t

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Marc Horowitz
"Donn Cave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I seem to be too dense this morning to see how service principal >> names could be authorization. I mean, with client principals it's >> obvious enough, but I reckon that the service would be the one who >> grants authorization, not the one who receives

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Ken Hornstein
>Sadly, it looks like LDAP uses the hostname of the server, which is >probably not what you really want. I'm not sure in the context of SASL it's possible to do anything else. --Ken

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 02:03:58PM -0500, Marc Horowitz wrote: > Sadly, it looks like LDAP uses the hostname of the server, which is > probably not what you really want. This may have to do with the SASL/GSS abstractions. Just a guess. > Marc Cheers, Nico -- -DISCLAIMER: an au

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Donn" == Donn Cave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Donn> An LDAP service certainly should have its own key, but in my Donn> opinion this should actually be a run time option. LDAP Donn> services aren't really a distinct category. You might run Donn> several LDAP services on t

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Donn Cave
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Hartman): | > "Donn" == Donn Cave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | |Donn> An LDAP service certainly should have its own key, but in my |Donn> opinion this should actually be a run time option. LDAP |Donn> services aren't really a distinct category. You m

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-01-25 Thread Donn Cave
Quoth Marc Horowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: | "Donn Cave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: |>> I seem to be too dense this morning to see how service principal |>> names could be authorization. I mean, with client principals it's |>> obvious enough, but I reckon that the service would be the one who |>>

Re: host and services principals/tickets

2002-02-04 Thread Paul Jakma
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Andreas Hasenack wrote: > It's like that company example, when I present myself at the desk clerk, > I get a temp ID for use within the company. This doesn't allow me > automatically in the restricted areas. /AIUI/, to make the analogy between a keycard system and kerberos